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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: 66 Galaxie Rear Suspension Question
« on: May 07, 2020, 12:04:14 PM »
The upper control arm is mounted using an eccentric cam washer and special bolt.
There is a dedicated slot in the chassis where the cam washer rides.
This allows for upper arm adjustment with the turn of the bolt head and cam washer.

Often this area is so covered in gear lube and other gunk that it is basically not visible.

I don't remember needing any special tools to access the nuts and bolts...it is tight up there.
You will need some measurements and such to set it properly once the new parts are installed.

This adjustment device allows you to get the correct pinion angle.
You can find correct pinion angle with other measurements and angle gauges.

You said "replace rear upper and lowner control arms".
Are you installing Hotchkiss or SPOHN parts?

If you are just installing new bushings in the factory control arms I strongly suggest taking the time to box weld the arms when they are out. It really does help quite a lot in terms of stiffness and rear end control.
The hidden benefit is the boxed arms keep out rust promoting stuff too.

Not to mention you can clean them up real good and paint them all nice and purdy.
This way, when you drop that critical part, and it finds its way to the mathematical center of the floor under the car, you will have a nice view as you stretch and reach for the needed part.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: 12” 6 piston Wilwood brakes
« on: May 07, 2020, 11:48:14 AM »
With all things being equal the booster simply assists the brake pedal effort required.
This means, in your scenario anyway, the perceived brake pedal effort will be less with the boosted system as compared to the manual system.

If things are set up correctly both will provide proper braking and both can be made to have the same pedal effort. The manual system will likely have a bit more pedal travel than the other due to the smaller bore diameter.
One thing to keep in mind when comparing boosted brakes to manual brakes is the master cylinder bore diameter.
They are often not the same between a boosted and manual system.

Because they are not the same in terms of physics and math, making literal direct comparisons is not an even race.

In real simple terms a smaller master cylinder bore diameter will increase the applied pressure when using the same pedal effort.
A couple things to keep in mind when going to a smaller master cylinder bore.
1) less fluid moved.
2) longer pedal travel required to move the same amount of fluid.

Another factor in pedal effort and fluid volume being moved is the pedal fulcrum point, or leverage.
You can radically alter how the pedal feels to push, as well as the amount of fluid being moved with the location of the pedal fulcrum. A distance change of 1" to the fulcrum location is an exponential change in pedal effort and fluid moved.

I am curious what you are building that may require 6 piston brake calipers?

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Feel stupid asking
« on: May 07, 2020, 12:40:17 AM »
https://www.flashpowerparts.com/billet-for-ford-fe/280-billet-swivel-thermostat-housings-water-neck-ford-fe-125-.html

This is the look of many offerings you can find for the FE thermostat housing.
I know they used to be available in silver/clear, black, red, blue.
There are, or at least used to be, a number of companies selling this same design.
Some have their logo engraved in the part while others leave them plain.

There is an O-ring seal for the hose connection (screws into place) as well as an O-ring seal for the base.
If the intake area is good they seal up nice and give no troubles.
Because the hose connection screws into place it can be exchanged for different sized hoses too.

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Thanks for the replies so far. I appreciat all of them.
I too have towed into WI (Rock Falls Raceway) but things change every once in a while and I just wanted to check.

I looked a the WI DOT regs trying ti find any specifics that may apply to me...None do.
I will be under 8000lbs meaning no need to stop at any weight stations.
I have no signage of any kind so I look like just a guy with a truck and trailer.
I drive at 65 max with the trailer, for a number of reasons, so I will be under the posted limit most of the time.
I don't think I will have any issues, but I just wanted to check.
Thanks again everyone.

If I do have troubles, the "emergency escape pod" in the trailer will be fun to get help with.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Engine Decals
« on: May 06, 2020, 10:25:15 AM »
Brent, I am not 100% certain how Ford technically went about dress up kits, but I believe the engine dress up kit could be dealer installed if so desired.

Because of this...(the kits were bolt on parts) it seems entirely plausible that any dealer, with any kind of maintenance shop, could install this if the buyer wanted it installed.

This also means any car, so long as a dress up kit was available for that engine, could be dressed up.

You are purchasing a 1966 Custom with a 352? And you want chrome valve covers and air cleaner...Well yes Sir, we can get that for you for an additional $47.29 installed.

I would bet on the order sheet there was an option box for (engine dress up kit) for all the offered engines.
Or, at the very least, if you knew about this kit you asked your salesman to check on the option.


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When I first decided to try the Lock-Right I was careful about figuring out which unit to purchase. The original differential in my truck was a 10.25", 3.55:1 gear, open differential. I got the right parts for that differential. With all the troubles, and subsequent talk with the engineer, we both verified I did have the right stuff...It just would not work properly in my case.

To be fair, nothing broke, everything went together per measured specs...as well as by feel when I tried that after the measured stuff did not work. It just did not work.

PowerTrax was really good about helping me and eventually refunding everything despite my messing with the parts. I purchased through Summit by the way and they were great too.

With your drag race intentions I suggest you skip the "lunchbox" locker idea. Save a bit longer and get the stuff that will last, work properly, and have no special needs.

I run a Detroit Locker in my 7-LITRE Galaxie and it is a set it and forget it thing.
A bit noisy?...yup. Clunks into lock?...yup. Requires a little different driving style?...yup.
Locks every single time without fail?...yup. Gives any trouble?...Nope.

I have witnessed, as well as used, plenty of clutch style locking differentials and here is my thought on those.
In a stock, or slightly hot rodded engined muscle car running street tires (nothing specifically grippy) they work pretty well because the power is not there, and the tires do not grip really hard.

Once you modify to power above about 500lb/ft torque you will burn up the clutches quick.
Once you install sticky tires you will burn up clutches pretty quick.
Once you install a high stall converter you will burn up clutches pretty quick.

If you have a nice 9" Trac-Lok, 31 spline, behind a stout FE, running Drag radials, and a clutch transmission, you can burn up a clutch locker in three passes.

Unless the car is totally dedicated to drag race action I do not recommend a spool, or anything like that. They do get the traction, but they alter the driving style considerably as well.

Save your money until you can get the Detroit Locker, then put the rear end together.
For now, let the one rear tire smoke and pedal the throttle.
In the long run you will be better served going this route instead of some sort of compromise.

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Hello all. I may be delivering a car to someone who lives in Wisconsin. I am not a commercial transport business, and this is NOT my normal...First time actually, otherwise my trailer work has been personal 100%.
This would be a one time delivery due to current COVID19 closures and such.
My rig is a plain truck with a big box, plain, enclosed trailer. No logos, labels, stickers or anything like that.

Does anyone know if there are any odd things I need to be aware of if doing this kind of thing?

Thanks for any and all help with Wisconsin rules and regulations.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Engine Decals
« on: May 05, 2020, 02:54:06 PM »
Brent: my set of completely original (greasy and grimy) VC's like that, have no stickers. I can't remember which engine/car they  are from. But certainly not a 428.
Cleandan: is that what an original air cleaner element looks like? Is that an original style air cleaner?
Richard
If your engine was equipped with the "low restriction" air filter housing the air filter looked very much like the one shown in the photo.
A somewhat creamy yellow, pleated element, orange foam encasing the ends, and a metal cage around the pleated element with circular holes.

The air filter top and bottom changed for 1966 and there were two versions of the same open element filter housing.
Chrome: Part of the engine dress up kit. This would have a chrome top with an engine blue bottom.
Standard" This would have both parts painted engine blue, otherwise the parts were the same between the chrome and painted versions.

If you look at places like Scott Drake, Summit, and others the chrome 14" filter housing they offer is usually the same basic design as the 1966 version...just crappier chrome and metal than originals, but often less rust than originals too.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Engine Decals
« on: May 05, 2020, 02:43:21 PM »
Good eye!   I didn't notice the wing nut being too tight...LOL

So basically no decals on the valve covers, right?
As with all things Ford, between the years 1960 - 1973, if you happen to say, "Ford never did that" you will suddenly find out they did, at least once.
With that said, from my direct experience, the 1966 428's did not have valve cover stickers.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Engine Decals
« on: May 05, 2020, 12:11:23 PM »
Good day Brent. This appears to be a Galaxie 7-LITRE engine compartment, is this correct?
I have had mine for decades...still a POS, but I like it anyway.
When I got it things were very untouched...worn out, but untouched.

The round sticker was centered on the oil breather/fill cover top.
The air cleaner lid sticker was on the outer rim, flat area. Not on the inner portion like in the photo.
The service sticker was on the drivers fender well, on the outer side of the fuel hose, near the plastic clamp, about 1/2 way between being next to the clamp and the top of the inner fender curve, positioned as to be read from the front of the car, not sideways as if standing with your body against the front fender. But not perfectly aligned either. I was stuck in the general area with some care, but not critical care.
There should also be a round sticker, centered, on the brake master cylinder cover.

This photos I see the air filter lid wing nut is so tight it has bent the lid. For 1966 the lid top is flat, not curved, with a slight recess for the wing nut.
I see other things too but I'll leave that go.

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machoneman: the rubber hose trick is exactly what I am going to try.

my427stang: This 427 does not run a PCV system. It only has the rear intake stack breather.
Do you know if there is an airfilter style cover the size of the S&H cover?
This may get enough airflow to keep the A/F ratio correct at WOT.

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I tried the Lock Right locker, from Powertrax, in my 1990 F250. This is my daily driver with a stock 7.3L IDI diesel and 3.73:1 gears. I figured with my marshmallow diesel, and ho-hum driving style, the Lock Right would be a perfect fit for my traction needs.

First, Powertrax was really good about helping me get this right. I eventually spoke with their in house engineer a bunch of times and I did all kinds of measurements, fittments, and so on in an attempt to get things just right. Everything measured correct.

In the end I tried two different Lock Right lockers, as well as measuring and combining parts from all of them, to get the best fitting, most correctly measured set up.........And it still would not work properly.
I got really good at taking the thing in and out, so I got that going for me.

Finally the engineer admitted that some differentials just don't work well with the Lock Right and my Sterling 10.25" was one of them.

The problem was it acted like a spool, with ZERO differential action, and this made the truck drive...well, not properly.

I think the Lock Right can be a good alternative for getting better traction, and they seem to hold up pretty well based on what other people have experienced, but they are a lesser locker than other alternatives.

I eventually installed a Yukon Grizzly Locker (a more durable Detroit Locker) and have been very pleased with the set up for the last 70,000 miles.

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Are you running S&H air cleaners?  If yes, two things wrong with them out of the box. 

1 - Incredibly restrictive, which could cause it to run rich at WOT, pig rich, which would then come out of the exhaust.  Can't be fixed by jetting because you are choking it for air,  The fix is to go with a K&N element, which is taller if you have room to rey to get back some surface area.

I have tried to find paper elements that are taller,supposedly an S10 Chevy pickup works, but every brand I have had has been slightly big in OD to fit in the chrome cover.

2 - Repop Ford carbs vent tubes are very close to the lid and depending how you zonk them down can even partially block them.  Fix for this is to file/grind them to an angle toward each float bowl
I am running the Stelling and Hellings air filter housings.
I am running K&N airfilters too.
The float vents are angle cut to give room between the lid of the filter housing and the vent as well.

I wonder if a tube running between the vents might help. Much like the off roaders install to help with fuel spillage at steep angles.
The vent tube used on a Holley Truck Avenger carb may work here.
If nothing else this would help direct any vent purged fuel directly into the carb.

But, to be honest, I don't have evidence of fuel spillage anywhere around the carbs. Everything that should be dry, is dry.

I am running the secondaries slightly opened to help with idle.
Because of this I have specifically checked, multiple times, for any fuel pull over at idle from either the primary, or the secondary boosters...None, not even dampness.
I also have no vacuum signal from the ported vacuum tube at idle...indicating the transfer slot is not exposed.

I can slowly open the butterflies and watch the accelerator pump squirt, then the fuel start to flow as it should.

I do have the accelerator pumps set to squirt right away, but that squirt is not very much with smallish squirters, and a small pump cam...Heck, maybe a squirter is not squirting in the right direction and that is giving me the excess gas smell.
I'll check that just to be certain.

To everyone, thanks again for all the useful input.
I am not certain I will find the real issue, but every bit helps me get there if I can.

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I didn't try to boil race gas, but it solved the problem I was having.  I eventually went to a return style fuel system on the car, and re-routed the fuel lines to keep them away from the engine as much as possible, and that solved the problem.  FYI the fuel was 92 octane with 10% ethanol.  Race gas would certainly boil at a much higher temperature.

New cars don't need to worry too much about the boiling point of the fuel, because with direct port injection used on new vehicles, the fuel is under pressure right up to the point where it is injected into the engine.  45+ pounds of pressure raises the boiling point significantly.  The problem I was having was a heat soak issue; I would stop the car, the fuel lines would get hot as the underhood temperature went up, then when I started the engine again after about 20 seconds the hot fuel would go through the needle and seat, lose pressure from the fuel system, boil, and spit out the carb vents, flooding the engine.  Took me a while to figure it out, it seemed like the engine was fuel starved, not flooded, but finally one day I duplicated the conditions while the car was sitting in the driveway, and watched it happen.  The amount of fuel spitting into the carb was rather remarkable...

This sounds like a great job for a GoPro camera in the engine compartment.
I know the fuel is evaporating due to heat soak, and boiling when the engine is shut off because the fuel pressure drops...This is plain science at work and there is not much I can do about it.

I never thought about the fuel boiling so violently that it would erupt out the vent tubes.
Currently I have the floats adjusted so the fuel is just barely at the bottom of the view port threads when slightly shaking the car to check levels.

I wonder if lowering the level a bit more may help. I will know, due to fuel starvation and the engine losing power, if I get the level too low.

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Larry, I swear, you live in one of the best places for racers. Summit, build shops, fuel distributors, all within a short drive of you.

The nearest VP distributor I can find is in Sidney, which is 1 hour from me. Not that bad, I suppose, but hauling a 55 gallon drum of race fuel, in the back of a truck, going down I-75, I wonder if I'd run into any problems with the law? So far, looking local has not produced any results.

Make a nice stencil and paint "Used cooking oil" on the side of your race fuel drum.

If you ever get caught, and if they ever decide to dip the tank, and if they choose to take the matter further, just tell them this was a drum you had laying around and you used it for fuel because it was nice a clean inside.

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