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Private Classifieds / Wanted: 1972-1976 Torino Ranchero Clutch Parts
« on: March 27, 2022, 12:18:14 AM »
Need everything from the pedals to the bell housing. Doing a manual swap in my '74 Cougar 460 car.

Thanks.

Bruce

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Fuel Efficient Build---352 or 351W
« on: March 18, 2022, 11:10:28 AM »
I think you said you have a C6 tranny now so I imagine you'll like the 4R70W a little better.  I'd be less excited about the  '98 vintage sbf when considering the amount of work for the whole swap...I'm guessing the power and mpg will be only a little better than the current I6.  A coyote 5.0 would definitely be more exciting.
No more work than anything else, really.
Yes, a Coyote would be more exciting. It would be exciting to have the money to purchase everything I would need for the Coyote swap as well.
Not going to find a Coyote engine, transmission and all the wiring and fueling to swap into my truck for a grand--which is what I am paying for the entire Explorer. Disc brake rear axle I believe there too, if I care to use it.  :)

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Fuel Efficient Build---352 or 351W
« on: March 18, 2022, 11:00:34 AM »
Good score. At a minimum, I'd yank the timing chain/gears and replace them. Also, the valve seals if not a valve job too.
When I come across an engine with miles on it but still runs well, I generally do replace the timing chain set and oil pump and pick-up.
Won't pull the heads. If I do that, then it snowballs from there. lol.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Fuel Efficient Build---352 or 351W
« on: March 17, 2022, 07:13:30 AM »
Well, a little different turn of events here.
Made a deal for a 1998 2wd Explorer 5.0 and will be using the entire powertrain from it. The engine runs great and idles smooth, however it does have 170,000 miles on it.
It does move forward and back under its own power but as far as running through all the forward gears, that is undetermined at this point.
Pretty excited about this. GT40 style intake manifold, GT40P heads, coil pack ignition system and a small, pea-shooter cam. Should be a nice, torquie, smooth running package for the truck with decent MPG, I would think.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Fuel Efficient Build---352 or 351W
« on: March 14, 2022, 10:45:48 AM »
Thanks for the continued input, guys.

Checked the MPG and according to my math, I'm getting 17, no highway use during this time, just in town and secondary roads.
However, my speedometer is 4-5 MPH optimistic which I believe would affect the odometer as well, so the 17 number may be incorrect. Probably lower.

You know, it's not so much about how much I spend on gas as it is at how often I have to stop to refill. I'm beginning to think this truck has a tiny tank.
If I get down to like an 1/8 of a tank or less (according to my gauge which is highly suspect), it seems like it only takes like 6-8 gallons to fill it.

Is it possible this thing only has a 10- or 12-gallon tank?

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: 351C 2V Pinging--How to Stop It?
« on: March 08, 2022, 08:09:10 PM »
I have never owned a 351C 2V, but in the mid-late 70s, I owned 2 different M code 70 MUstangs, a Sportsroof with Shaker, and a Mach 1, with no Shaker. Even with the available 100 octane leaded Chevron Supreme back then, these engines were very sensitive to pinging/detonation. For best power , it needed more timing, but it was a juggling act to get enough total timing, without pinging on a warm day. And pulling back timing really killed the power. The Sportsroof I drag raced pretty much every weekend, and also did a LOT of street racing in between. It was all stock, except I put a pair of Cyclone headers on it in 1976, and they were both FMX cars with 3.25 gears. Not sure how the 2V heads would compare, but with the big 4V heads, both cars were soft below about 3000 RPM, then wake up, but around 55-5600 RPM, the stock cam gave up. Compared to my later 428CJs, the 351C 4V was much more sensitive to weather conditions, when the temps would change from 70F to 85-90F, it was not uncommon for the 1/4 mile ETs to fall off by 1/2 second and 3-4 MPH.
Wow, that's interesting, Rory, thanks for sharing. Never heard they were sensitive to weather changes. Also, the quench heads were supposed to be way better at detonation prevention, but evidently, not in your experience. That's disappointing to me.

My 2V engine has excellent off-idle and low RPM torque and throttle response--it feels "lively." I guess kind of opposite of the 4V engine. I tend to like low RPM torque and throttle response over high RPM power for the street. That's why I like FEs and big blocks in general.

Man, I might stick with a 2V engine then. Since it's a street car and I won't be racing it, I'd rather have the low RPM power the 2V heads provide. But if I can't overcome the pinging issue, there's always the option of throwing another style engine in it, like maybe an FE or even a 460. Being a 1970, either engine family would be correct for it.  8)

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Fuel Efficient Build---352 or 351W
« on: March 08, 2022, 08:52:17 AM »
Well, a 1995 Mercury Marquis popped up my local Craigslist for free. 4.6 and whatever OD auto was behind them that year.
Car was left behind by a former tenant. Evidently was having overheating issues. It does have a title and is signed off by the owner. It's only about 8 minutes from me.
I'm thinking this may make a pretty decent swap. Thinking I may gain a mile or two per gallon, certainly no worse than I have now, I would imagine.

EDIT: It's already gone.
 

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: 351C 2V Pinging--How to Stop It?
« on: March 07, 2022, 03:14:30 PM »
Thanks guys. This engine won't be in the car forever as it is an M code car which means it was originally equipped with the 300 horse 4V Cleveland.
Eventually I plan to build one for it but in the meantime while I work on the rest of the car, I would like this engine to run the best it can for as long as it can. As we all know, detonation isn't conducive to either one of those deals.  :D

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Fuel Efficient Build---352 or 351W
« on: March 07, 2022, 09:28:28 AM »
Are you opposed to a Coyote-swap?  ;D  I average about 24mpg (60/40 city driving) in my '18 GT, and can squeak out 32mpg on the highway.
I certainly wouldn't be opposed to a Coyote swap, if someone would like to donate it to me.  ;D


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Non-FE Discussion Forum / 351C 2V Pinging--How to Stop It?
« on: March 07, 2022, 08:43:51 AM »
Have an excellent running 2V Cleveland in a 1970 Cougar I recently acquired but it pings under a load pretty badly.
I have always heard these engines with the open chamber heads were detonation prone and from having owned a 1974 Montego with a bone stock 2V Cleveland that pinged under a load and now this one, I would tend to agree. When I say under a load, I'm not talking wide open, just partial throttle climbing a moderate hill.
Now, short of swapping heads in favor of the Aussie heads, 4V closed chamber or running race gas, is there any way to remedy this situation? Would polishing the chambers help?

This engine I have now has a Holley 750 vacuum secondary carb., Holley Street Master intake, long tube headers with dual exhaust out the back. The mufflers are very quiet chamber style.
It needed a fuel pump so when I removed it, I could see and feel the timing chain was worn out. So, replaced that as well, and when doing it, removed the pan to make removing the timing cover easier. While the pan was off, replaced the oil pump and pick-up with new Melling stuff, standard volume and pressure.

The bottom end looked stock. The timing set was the factory nylon deal so I believe the cam is stock. it idles very smooth.

Haven't checked the timing yet because my timing light is at work. Will do that in the next day or so. Have the distributor mounting soaking with PB blaster as it's stuck.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Fuel Efficient Build---352 or 351W
« on: March 07, 2022, 08:15:00 AM »
Well, after doing some online research, it seems no matter if the engine is a 300 or a 460 and everything in between, including the later model modular engines, the fuel mileage is going to be between 10 and 16 MPG.
Of course, there are cases where some, with modifications, get better or worse but for the most part, 10 to 16 seems to be it. My current set-up with the 300 being near the top, even with the C6.
So, the only "rational" reason I would have for swapping to a V8 would be for the sound, and of course the power increase associated with it.
For now, I'm going to give the ol' 300 a complete tune-up and a transmission filter and fluid change.
Will do a before and after MPG check and see if any gains were made.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 504" Cougar
« on: March 05, 2022, 08:54:27 AM »
That car's awesome! Thanks for posting!   :)

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Fuel Efficient Build---352 or 351W
« on: March 04, 2022, 12:13:19 PM »
Cleandan, thanks for the detailed response. This truck is my only daily driver, I use it for everything. My other daily driver is a motorcycle and these days I'm more inclined to drive rather than ride as everyone else is out to kill me on my bike. lol. I do still ride, just not on a daily basis.

And for everyone, I guess I should clarify my standing on this fuel economy issue. I realize I'm not going to get 20 or 30 miles per gallon with this rig. I would just like to maximize what I could with what I have.
That being said, if the current 300 in the truck gets let's say 13-16 MPG, if I can get a V8 in the same range with more power and torque that comes with it, I would like to go with that.
A lot of the driving experience for me is the sound of the engine. A V8 has that lovely, enjoyable sound for me whereas a 6 cylinder does not.

I will try to post a pic of my truck later but here is a brief description of it.

1989 F-150 short bed, stripped model, no AC, power windows or carpet.
Stock ride height.
One fuel tank.
Stock pizza cutter wheels and tires.
No elephant ear mirrors.
No add-on visor, headache rack or camper shell.
300/6 with C6, 8.8 rear, no posi.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Fuel Efficient Build---352 or 351W
« on: March 04, 2022, 02:36:56 AM »
My '66 F100 that I run around in gets a little over 16 mpg with a basically stock '68 390/C6. I do have an Edelbrock F427 intake on it and a 600 Holley and a Pertronix conversion but that's it. Since all I do is drive it...no towing I put a 2.50 rear gear in it out of a '77 Ranchero. That makes it run down the road real nice. at 65 it's only turning about 2000 rpm.
Nice truck, Alan.
I'd be very happy with something like that. If a person could get that kind of mileage out of a 390, seems a 352 should equal or better that figure I would think, no?
Or maybe 390 cubic inches is the "Goldilocks" size for the FE engine design that brings the best MPG per work done.
Seems like I remember being told years ago by people who owned 390 powered vehicles that they got pretty decent mileage. But maybe I'm manufacturing memories. lol.
What cylinder heads are on your truck engine?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Fuel Efficient Build---352 or 351W
« on: March 03, 2022, 08:09:50 PM »
Thanks for the input, guys I appreciate it.

As far as driving habits, I'm consistently in fuel-saver mode, unless I'm driving a hot rod. The truck has very little rolling resistance. It has the stock pizza cutters and I keep them aired up around 40psi usually.

Probably going to abandon this idea and maybe concentrate on making the 300 as efficient as I can. It's no powerhouse but man, is it reliable. Haven't had to do anything to it but fill it with gas and change the oil and filter occasionally.

Frank, funny you mention a turbo as that has crossed my mind. lol. I don't know. I have a '74 and a recently acquired '70 Cougar both needing attention, so I probably should leave the truck alone.

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