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I have had good luck with MSD parts for a long time.  Since not everything is "Made in the USA" (which is not a guarantee of quality but) it would not be a stretch to assume they have/had a batch of bad pickup coils.  They are basically a beefed up version of the duraspark pickup.  I have found MSD stuff to be pretty robust.  I use their pickup in my hacked distributor on the 302 tunnel ram - small AMC cap, Duraspark body and shaft, MSD pickup coil.

Case in point - wife's racer had a screw back out of the rotor and fall into the body.  After a bit it sheared two teeth off the reluctor.  We could still load it running on 6 cylinders.  Apparently didn't hurt the pickup and didn't get #1 tang because the timing is still spot on.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Torque Converter Advice
« on: May 09, 2017, 01:44:28 PM »
You people quit stalling and get to the point.   ;D

YMMV is the right idea.  I can drive the 20 miles or so without a problem - on a 75 or 80 something day.  In summer here, the road surface will be 140~150 degrees with an air temp of high 90s.  It'll cross 180 on the trans in a short time.  180 is my personal cutoff.  On the dragster - for sure more power but less load - trans temp goes from 150 to 180 in 660'.  The fight this weekend - temps in the 90s - was trying to get the lawn dart's trans temp back to 150 before the next round.  High speed blower pointing right at the trans case took 20 minutes.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Torque Converter Advice
« on: May 05, 2017, 02:53:09 PM »
I would not go 12", 11" minimum 2400+, 10" tight 3000 better.  Your gear/tire size will impact stall on a street car more than anything else - because if you are crusing below stall, that's heat.  A lot of heat.  Put a temp gauge and a deep pan on the trans.  Heat that makes you stop once in a while a let it bleed off.  I know, I use a 4000 in a street car with 4.56 gears and 28" tire.  I can go about 15 miles in mild weather at 3200+ RPM before I need to give the trans a rest.  Thats from dead cold to near 190F.  Slow cruise night, I can last a few miles and maybe 30~40 minutes before parking.  The cooler is large and has a big fan behind it running constantly.  2400 stall, no problems with a decent cooler.  3000 - probably still OK, watch the gauge.  Over that - watch the gauge and the weather.  If you had not said "street", I'd have said 3600~4200, and more gear. 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Rebuilding for track time
« on: May 03, 2017, 04:59:21 PM »
Decking the Block is one way

Only way I know.  Or a custom piston pin height.  Decking way cheaper even counting all the gaskets and such.  On my 351Cs I hold pistons at .000 or .005 below the deck and control the quench distance with the gasket.  The dragster motor is .005 with  .036 Cometic MLS. 

Converter is the big thing - my 302 Falcon only makes maybe 300 HP.  9.5:1, small hydro cam, now with a couple of 600s on a tunnel ram.  C4 with 4.56 gear.  Hooser drag radials, bald now LOL, 275-60x15.  The converter is a custom build, flashes about 4000.  Car goes 1.78 60', 8.1x @ 82 in decent weather.  That's mid 12s at over 100.  Weighs 3250 lbs.  With a 3000 street converter it might go 8.40s or so.  I drive it on the street, just have to watch the trans temp with that big converter.  Not really what you might be after, just an example.  Having a converter built for a specific purpose is not cheap but it blows the off-the-shelf units into the ditch. 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Rebuilding for track time
« on: May 03, 2017, 10:15:02 AM »
3500 stall or better, quality converter will get you another .1 or even better.  No other changes.  If you reduced that quench to around .040 you'd pick up maybe 20 HP, without much change in compression.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: help on smoking issue
« on: May 03, 2017, 10:11:54 AM »
You should go with the head mfg's recommendation for torque values and lube, or use ARPs notes.  Not sure about an FE, but for sure the AFD heads on my 351C required thread seal on the intake rocker studs because the holes penetrated the intake port.

Seems to me that the FE has real issues with intake sealing - not that other Ford motors don't LOL.  But the FE head/intake seal area being under the valve cover makes it more critical.  It'd look at the plugs to see if it was just a couple of cylinders causing the trouble, that would point to either an intake port or possibly a problem with the intake valve seal on that cylinder.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Cooling fan HP losses...
« on: May 03, 2017, 10:06:27 AM »
I use electric fans on everything - got tired of dodging the 16"~18" salad shooter engine driven stainless blades.  A also engineer the radiator/fan setup as a unit.  In most cases, a couple of bolts and disconnecting a plug allows the entire assembly to lift out of the car for front motor work.  Combined with a quality electric water pump it frees up space and reduces power loss.  Add in my preference for electric fuel pumps too.  You get to where the whole motor including alternator is assembled on the stand, then drop in, connect a couple of  harness plugs and a few wires, connect fuel line, bolt on headers, drop in radiator assembly and done under the hood. 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Ignition timing question
« on: April 30, 2017, 09:02:32 PM »
When I used a curve, my idea was to run as much initial as the motor could stand - as much as 18 in some cases - then limit total to a reasonable figure.  Usually on my SBFs, 351Cs somewhere 34~38.  It takes work but it's worth it.  Or take the 21st century way out - lock the timing at full advance and use a programmable ignition to insert a start retard of 10~20 degrees.

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The only carb issues I seem to have lately is that I see a lot of needle/seat assemblies - Holley parts - go south.  I've replaced two in the Mustang's carb so far this year, one late season last year.  They work for a while then one end of the carb starts flooding out.  I have ordered some AED .110 for the dragster carb, just to try something fresh.  And because it seems to be running out of fuel in the shutdown.  Have a BG280 pump I'm going to rebuild and try as a fix for that.

The QFT parts I liked to use were their metering block pairs.  I never really got much good out of the ProForm blocks and switching to using QFT with even a ProForm body made a big difference in tuning.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: It don't fit?
« on: April 26, 2017, 02:37:47 PM »
Very nice car - thanks for sharing that.  Glad you were finally able to find what you needed. 

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I noticed that all the QF stuff in my Wishlist at Summit has gone to "Not Available".  Switching to AED parts.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: It don't fit?
« on: April 25, 2017, 08:30:15 AM »
X2 - that C6 will fit a 351M, 400, 385 Series (429-460).  Not FE. 


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If it has a pro t-brake in it, thats 25% of your figure LOL.  Can run into bucks quick.  Bell, flex and torque converter to hook the powerglide to the 351C in the dragster was over $1000.  Lucky me, trans came with the car or that'd been another $1500.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Iron 351 C 4 Barrel Intake Adapted To A FE
« on: April 21, 2017, 09:30:18 AM »
Standard stuff.  Might be of interest to someone restoring a car with a 1970 351C in it.  There's a D0AE-L intake listed on eBay at $125, re-listed, no takers.  $125~150 would probably get you a good used Torker, Weiand single plane, Ed dual plane, etc.  All better than an iron stocker.

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Not sure on a FE< but I tested an SI-10 on a SBF 302 using the stock mounts and it would impinge on the head.  Deeper than a stock Autolite.  Have had no problems dropping in a 3G on everything else. 

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