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FE Technical Forum / Re: Need to quiet down our 484 FE...
« on: April 10, 2024, 02:50:40 AM »
There is a very interesting thread going on at ST, regarding exhaust noise:

https://www.speed-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68357

It is something that should help in a street engine, too. Might be worth a try.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Quench
« on: March 31, 2024, 05:27:54 PM »
Brent, I went back and read the JJ thread and in it you purchased a set of aluminum rod for JJ and said you were going to install them. That's why I remembered that.

I'm now curious as to the deck height and head gasket you used. When I bought the adapter and TR, I asked you what deck height you used on it (for reference on gasket fit) and if it was your normally std 10.150 DH and you said, yes. Did you also use the 1020 head gasket that you use a lot?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 360 vs 390 rpm
« on: March 31, 2024, 05:13:50 PM »
Yes, a 390 (if in good shape) should wind up faster (take less time to get to a particular rpm) than a 360, especially under any load but, the cam timing and carburetion will also limit the rpm and time it takes to get to that rpm.

i.e. The 63, 352 2v was rated at 4300 rpm, while the 390 4v was rated at 4600 rpm. Different cams and carbs.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Quench
« on: March 30, 2024, 06:58:03 PM »
In Brent's defense, my 361 Edsel block was off .018 across the deck and cleaned up at 10.172. It had the same quench as a '58 352 but the heads had no evidence of contact of any sort and would have had a min quench of .038.

But, Ford would NOT have release a engine with a nominal .036 quench if it would not be enough, period. 5 yrs later they built a all aluminum SBF, reliable enough to finish the Indy 500.

Now, if Ross's engine, that had a deck height of 10.155, had been assembled with a nominal .036 quench, It could not have left the assembly line so, it would have never made it to the street.

Last, it is my recollection (please correct me, if I'm wrong) that the the engine that Brent ran .035 quench on, was his JJ, 352 and he had aluminum rods in it (most high strength alum expands at 3 times the rate of steel). It didn't make any noise and didn't hurt anything, either.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Quench
« on: March 30, 2024, 03:43:31 PM »
I have Edelbrock's with 56cc chambers. I am going to run E85, so running the .045 Cometic MLS head gasket would give me a little more compression. If you suspect I would see piston to head contact with .036-.037 clearance I would just get the .051. I wish they made a .048. Jim
Actually, I think you will be fine with .036 quench. I was asking because some specs on production head gaskets aren't accurate but, I'm sure the Cometic specs will be accurate.

BTW, Fords spec for the '58 300 hp 352 was .036 (1.875 CH piston and a .031 gasket).

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Quench
« on: March 30, 2024, 10:57:49 AM »
How are you gauging the head gasket thickness and what head gaskets will do you have?


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FE Technical Forum / Re: 3U crankshaft
« on: March 24, 2024, 10:34:05 AM »
djburton,
Where this got confusing, is when cleandan asked about what it takes to use a FT, steel crank and I gave him that info. That info doesn't apply to your crankshaft.

Sorry about that.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: piston skirt clearance
« on: March 23, 2024, 04:21:25 PM »
My Sept, '57 dated 361 Edsel block was off .016 front to back on one side, about .012 on the other and both were higher than 10.17. I had it decked to clean up both sides and it came out @ 10.172.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 3U crankshaft
« on: March 22, 2024, 01:45:20 PM »
In my case, I'm running a 164 tooth FW ring and a 3 disk, 7.5" clutch, with a button FW.

All different stuff that has to be reworked, into a package.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 3U crankshaft
« on: March 22, 2024, 12:11:55 PM »
What I'm doing isn't cheap, I'm doing it for reduced rotating weight.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: FE Power Tunnel Port Cylinder Heads
« on: March 21, 2024, 06:48:52 PM »
Thank you

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 3U crankshaft
« on: March 21, 2024, 06:47:06 PM »
I'm doing that, ask we speak but, offset grinding it to SBC journals, as well.

You will have to have the snout turned down from 1 3/4 to 1 3/8. The center in the snout will not be on center of the main bearing, so it will have to be recut first. A machine shop will charge you about 3.5 hr labor to turn it and recut the keyways. I do that part myself. You will then have to open the flywheel to the FT diameter. Add another hr for that.

Offset grinding it costs a additional $600, including bearings.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: FE Power Tunnel Port Cylinder Heads
« on: March 19, 2024, 03:02:30 PM »
Thanks, Jay.

How low long do they need to be?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: FE Power Tunnel Port Cylinder Heads
« on: March 19, 2024, 01:07:53 PM »
Jay can I get my set with 5/16 valve guilds?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: piston skirt clearance
« on: March 19, 2024, 01:02:48 PM »
The fact remains that 4032 is more brittle and it doesn't expand as much as 2618 plus, these are neither Mahle or SBF pistons. There is much more mass to these pistons, than the SBF.

I would diffidently check with RaceTec before installing that piston and he should have file fit rings for the additional .006+ end gap.

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