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FE Technical Forum / Variable Flow Gerotor Oil Pump
« on: June 28, 2021, 04:58:46 PM »
Most of you guys probably remember my oil pump dyno thread from earlier this year:

http://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=9685.0

You're probably saying to yourselves, "This guy must be an incredible nerd with too much time on his hands!  Why go to all of that trouble just to play with oil pump designs that have been around forever?"

FYI you're right about the nerd part  ;D  But there's I reason I did this.  Manufacturers are looking for every way possible to squeeze more economy out of our old dinosaur burners.  It turns out the oil pump is a pretty significant parasitic load on an engine.  Oil pumps are designed for the worst-case needs of your engine, like towing a heavy load up a mountain on a hot summer day.  When you're just turnpike cruisin', the engine is producing much less power and heat.  Oil flow can safely be cut by half or less.  This saves parasitic load on the engine and increases cruise fuel economy.

Standard gerotor oil pumps have a fixed oil flow for a given engine rpm, so people have had to go to vane-type pump designs to achieve variable flow independent of rpm.  These pumps work, but they're complex, delicate, and expensive.  They're also very sensitive to oil contamination.  Despite this, Ford went to a variable vane oil pump on the new Godzilla truck engine.  In the video below, Brian Wolfe explains how using a variable flow oil pump got them to their fuel economy goals without resorting to cylinder deactivation or direct injection.  Pretty cool!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJztLbsQ7Y4

So I got interested in variable flow pumps a couple of years ago.  The goals of my new design would be:

- Simple, durable, and cost effective
- Close as possible to existing "gerotor" pump technology
- Able to handle dirty oil as well as existing gerotor pumps
- Fail-safe design goes to maximum flow if the control fails
- Compact package, as close as possible to existing pump size
- Able to reduce flow (and pump drive power) at least 50%

Those are pretty lofty goals.  It took a couple of years of work, but I got there!  The fun part is that I used an FE oil pump (Melling M-57B) as the base for my first prototype.  The old dog can learn new tricks  :D

Here's a picture of the prototype pump:



I can't get into too many details on how it works (still too early in the patent process), but you can see a transmission control solenoid on the side of the pump.  The solenoid regulates a hydraulic circuit inside that moves mechanical parts to vary the rotor's flow volume.  I'll try to anticipate some thoughts people may have:

- I am not just dumping excess oil overboard, like auto transmission pumps do.  That's pretty wasteful.

- This is not a variable bypass design that sends extra oil from the output side back to the input.  Those controlled-bypass approaches have already been patented.  They don't seem to work very well, since Ford even bought one fifteen years ago and it has yet to appear in production.  I suspect oil aeration may be an issue based upon my earlier testing...

- Based upon patent searches, this seems to be a unique approach that can massively change the pump's output without adding too much size.

I've spent plenty of time on the test rig with this prototype.  Here are a couple of curves showing min (red) and max (green) flow and pressure.  I'll attach these charts so you can look at them in better detail.  The pump power drops proportionally as the flow and pressure drop:





Here's a shot of the pump mounted to the test rig adapter:



I also developed a little hand-held touchscreen controller to run the pump.  It can set the pressure anywhere within the colored area of those charts.  (There is a minimum and maximum built into the pump at any given speed.  You can't go below the red line or above the green line.  Anything in between is fair game!)  Here's what the controller looks like.  It plugs right into that control solenoid:



Here's a video showing the control working at 4,000 engine rpm.  The tachometer is showing pump rpm, which is 2,000.  When the video starts, the control is off and shows red.  I then touch the button and select different pressures.  You'll notice the rig speeds up a bit when I lower the pressure.  That's because the pump input power drops:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAlSgGHSaaw

Here's a video showing what happens when I disconnect the pump control.  You'll see that the pump instantly reverts to max flow.  At this point it's just like a standard M-57B pump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrg5fPuWveM

I tried to make this as short as possible, but it's two years of work.  There was a lot of frustration and plenty of scrap parts along the way.  I don't see a lot of interest from aftermarket guys or racers, since a couple of horsepower in savings isn't a lot.  Besides, when you're pushing it you'll want full oil flow anyway.  Hopefully this attracts the attention of a manufacturer.

I just wanted to share with you guys.  There are lots of smart cookies on here!  I know some of you guys are secretly as nerdy as I am  :)  So, flame away!

Oops - Linked to an incorrect video.  Fixed

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FE Technical Forum / Oil Pump Dyno
« on: January 29, 2021, 04:41:32 PM »
Some of you guys may remember the spin test machine I built about a decade (!) ago.  We learned a lot about valvetrain dynamics, specifically on the 427 SOHC.  The machine is powered by a 5 HP electric motor on a variable frequency drive.  It is capable of spinning the camshaft up to 5,500 rpm, corresponding to 11,000 crankshaft rpm.  Here are a couple of pictures from back then:





Here's a YouTube clip of the machine starting up at low speed:
https://youtu.be/-Slp184d0sY

This is a typical clip of a high speed valve event test I did with the stroboscope:
https://youtu.be/XCRrONYwBk0

We learned a lot, and broke lots of valvetrain parts.  Since then the machine has sat in a corner of my garage, unloved  :-\  Well, it's now back for a second life!  I've built a fixture that bolts onto the spin machine which lets me run automotive oil pumps.  I use a SOHC stub cam on cam bearings in a frame.  The pump mounts to a removable block and engages the cam drive gear, just as on an engine.  Oil is recirculated into a reservoir pan.  Here are some shots of the latest configuration:





The two pictures above are from early in the build.  I've added temperature, flow, and pressure measuring instruments, an adjustable valve to set flow restriction, and a dyno torque measuring system.  The machine has evolved a bit as I figured out what didn't work  >:(  Now it seems to behave pretty well!

Here's what it looks like now.  You can see the pressure gauges, and the big "FML 250" box is for the turbine flow meter.  I went through three other types of flow meters before I finally got this to work!



Here's the dyno torque arm on the motor, and the display:




I also added magnetically mounted splash shields to help keep the oil where it belongs:



Here's a Melling M-57 HV oil pump for the FE, mounted on the drive block and ready to test:



Obviously there are a TON of details that I won't bore you with, but I'm happy to answer questions.  This has been a big undertaking...

So what does this thing do?  I can test an oil pump at any flow restriction and temperature I want, with any type of oil.  For the first test, I got a blueprinted Melling M57-HV high volume pump from Precision Oil Pumps.  I used conventional 10W-30 oil and set the hot idle pressure at 30 psi, corresponding to a quality new engine build.  (Thanks, Brent Lykins for that recommendation!)  Oh - Temperature is 200 degrees F.  Believe it or not, just running the machine up for several minutes will put that much heat into the oil.

Here's what the flow and pressure look like.  There is a bit of internal pump leakage at low speed, which is why the curves jump up off - idle.  I re-ran several times to verify this.  Also, notice how the flow breaks down at high rpm!  This is due to the pump cavitating and aerating the oil:



(Note that I've also attached the chart so you can read it better...)

I was surprised by the cavitation at the top end.  Here's something even more surprising.  This is the clear outlet line from the pump under normal operation:



Here is the same outlet line after the pump has been bypassing / cavitating for several seconds.  Those are air bubbles in the oil:



I don't know about you, but I don't like the idea of something like that going into my bearings.  To be fair, this is after several seconds at 7,500 rpm.  It does take some time for this much air to get into the oil.  Still, the flow curve drops off right away which shows that cavitation has started.

Anyway, this is what I'm up to!  More to come  :)  I just got a POP standard volume M-57 pump to run.  I'll be doing a comparison of the standard and high volume pumps under the same conditions.  Fire away with questions!

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Felony - Is that you?  My kind of guy  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LONT1oboJrs

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Imagine my amazement when I saw this today!  Anybody care to hazard a guess?

Check out the crazy belt drive.  This is not a home built one-off.  The castings are made from production-intent tooling and it was intended for a production car.


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FE Technical Forum / Cam choice for a '68 CJ Cougar
« on: November 26, 2015, 01:07:11 PM »
Hi guys -

My buddy Tim is building up a date code correct 428 CJ for his 1968 Cougar.  This car is really rare and awesome - a factory sunroof R-Code XR-7 cat.  Right now it's running a stroked medium riser with a built C-6 and 3:50 Currie axle.

He wants to go more correct for a potential sale down the road.  The new engine will feature the following:

  • Stock block with a 4.125" or 4.25" stroker kit, depending on how healthy the walls are.
  • Stock heads with a good valve job and maybe a bowl cleanup.
  • Lightweight Ross pistons to get near 10:1 for pump gas.
  • Date-coded carburetor and intake.
  • Hooker Super Comp Headers will stay on (date-coded exhaust manifolds stay in a box!)
  • C-6 with wide-ratio gearset and 2400 stall converter.
  • 3:50 Traction-Loc in correct 9" rear end assembly.

I've Talked Tim into a hydraulic roller, since this is just a fun street car that'll never see much north of 6,000 rpm.  What do you guys think a good choice would be?  We need good idle quality and vacuum, with a bit of a rumble.  A wide torque band would be best for driveability.  Figure CID will be in the mid - high 400 inch range, depending on the final stroke.

He'd like to end up with a no fuss, reliable weekend driver that will have no trouble lighting up a set of drag radials.  Your suggestions would be most appreciated!

- Bill

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FE Technical Forum / Rip Van Spin Testing Machine!
« on: April 26, 2013, 01:33:18 PM »
Hi guys.  After a few years of slumber, my spin testing machine has broken cover.  Robert Pond called me a few months ago wondering if I'd be interested in spinning up one of his new SOHC heads and testing a beehive spring combo.  He's about an hour away from me in Riverside, CA.

Heck yeah!  I've been bumping into that poor thing in the back of my garage for quite some time now...  It needed a lot of attention, since the previous testing thrashes had taken their toll.  My tachometer was broken, and the oiling system was springing leaks all over.  I also built an improved mounting plate for the SOHC head.

We agreed to do the testing at his facility.  Last Saturday, I packed the machine up in the ole' Ranger and headed over.  Robert has a forklift, which made the unloading easy:



Here's Robert's head getting set up for the test.  I must say it is a VERY nice quality casting.  All of the machining is accurate and all of my parts bolted right up as they should:



Here we are nearly set up for the first run:



We first ran the machine at idle speed to make sure all systems were operating normally.  This caught a loose bolt on the cam snout pulley, which would have gotten ugly at 8,000 rpm.  Once tightened up, I shot this little clip:

Dang it- Embed not working from Photobucket.  Here's the link:

http://s905.photobucket.com/user/ottodyn/media/Robert%20Pond%20Spin%20Test/TestMachineIdling_zps747a38bf.mp4.html

Here's a picture of the spring and retainer.  Robert opted for a PAC 1555 beehive spring. 

- Seat load:  Approximately 180 lb
- Load at full lift:  Approximately 425 lb

- Approximate cam lift:  0.720 inch
- T&D Steel Adjustable SOHC Rocker



This is impressively light!  He also set the spring up extremely tight.  Basically if set the lash less than 0.020", you risk binding the spring ;-)

After the basic systems check, we ran up to progressively higher speeds.  Here's a video clip at the 8,000 rpm test goal speed.  I aplogize in advance for the video quality.  I'm a bit off my game with this thing and I think i got some oil on the lens.  Robert's big beefy cam caps also obstruct the view from my machine's standard view port.  Will have to rework that...

Here's the link again.  Sorry embed isn't working:

http://s905.photobucket.com/user/ottodyn/media/Robert%20Pond%20Spin%20Test/8000RPMSummaryVideo_zps03dae0e0.mp4.html

The beehive spring works very well at this speed.  Valve motion is well controlled and the tight setup damps coil oscillation quite nicely.  There is some spring rotation, likely due to the valve stem wiggling/ orbiting in the guide.  That's not a big deal since these speeds will only be seen for short periods.

The smoke coming from the valve stem / adjuster interface is caused by the adjuster scrubbing across the valve stem tip.  It's unavoidable with this valvetrain geometry and an elephant foot adjuster.  Robert and I are not concerned about this because, again, the engine will rarely venture into this rpm territory.  It's only above 7,000 rpm that we start seeing significant heating from this effect.

By the way, here's the result of an earlier test where I ran a head for an extended period (like five minutes continuous) at 8,000 rpm:



The test was done with the same T&D steel adjustable rocker that Robert is using.  Notice the discoloration in the picture below.  The pivot ball underneath was badly chewed up from heating and lack of oil:




On Robert's test, we didn't come close to hurting anything.  We were only at 8,000 rpm for a few seconds.


Here's one of Robert's heads in a box.  Cammer goodness!



More boxes full of cammer goodness!



I spent a great day with Robert.  He is a super nice guy and I wouldn't hesitate to do business with him!

Now I'm getting fired up to do some more testing.  Jay may have a couple of devious plans for the near future.  Stay tuned...

- Bill

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Dang it! Broken Connecting Rod
« on: April 11, 2012, 04:01:21 PM »
My wife Tracy and I went skiing in Colorado this past week.  What an incredible time!  I've always been an expert skier and enjoy bombing the black diamonds.  I demo'd some new high performance K2 AMP Rictor skis that were just the ticket for this challenging terrain.

Well this past Friday (Apr. 6th) was our last day.  It got warm and the snow conditions deteriorated to "mashed potato" slush with a nice dose of ice underneath.  It is pretty tiring to ski this slop, so I decided to knock off an hour early and meet Tracy and her sister down at the lodge for cocktails.  I chose an easy blue intermediate trail for the descent and headed off.

About 1/3 of the way down, I hit an unexpected patch of ice which sent me into the pile of slush I had been turning to avoid.  I wasn't going fast - maybe 20 mph, but the sideways hit was too much for my tired suspension to absorb.  I got knocked sideways and landed hard on my right hip.

OUCH - That hurt.  I was able after a while to untangle myself and gingerly get to the side of the trail for a systems check.  Nobody was around (since the smart ones had already gone in!)  I determined that my right hip was reasonably stable and could bear some weight.  I decided to gently ski down the easiest possible way back to the lodge.  Not a big deal, but i must have looked funny to the people on the chair lift!

Once I arrived at the lodge and sat down, I started thinking about that same hip, which I fractured five years ago riding off-road motorcycles.  The ortho at the time was whispering in my ear, "If you do anything to that hip again, get it checked immediately!"  Honestly it felt like a bad bruise, and if it was the other leg I probably would have gone home and numbed it with vodka drinks.  Fortunately I listened to the inner voice, and when Tracy arrived we arranged for the ski patrol to take me down to the Breckenridge clinic.

Here I am getting ready for the 300 yard ride to the clinic.  I thought it was ridiculous because I felt fine, but rulz is rulz:



Once in the clinic, I got all stripped down and waited for x-ray.  The paper shorts are a nice touch, eh?  I was still feeling confident that I'd be given a clean bill of health.  Notice the GoPro camera, unscathed of course!



Well, shortly after, I got the x-rays taken.  When the clinic physician pulled the first film out of the sleeve, he exclaimed, "WHOA!"  My shoulders slumped and I rolled my eyes in anticipation of the news.  Here is what he saw (with Tracy's finger modeling the area of interest).



That's the neck of my right femur.  It is actually fractured 3/4 of the way through, with a chunk knocked off the back for good measure.  It was sobering to think I had skied down the mountain on that.

The doctors became very urgent at this point and got a surgical team assembled at the neighboring hospital.  Fortunately in this part of the country they are very good at this type of work  ;D  I was out of surgery less than five hours after the fall.  With new titanium con rod bolts, they say I will be back to my full rev potential in eight weeks:



I must say they did an outstanding job.  I was out of the hospital Saturday and we flew home to California Sunday.  By Monday I was off the narcotic pain meds (what a cornucopia they gave me!!) and up on crutches.  Today I'm driving and getting around like it's no big deal.  As long as I stay on the straight and narrow, I'm expected to make a full and complete recovery.

Moral of the story:  When in doubt, get yourself checked.  If I hadn't gone in when i did, and got the fracture fixated within six hours of the injury, which restored the blood supply to my hip joint,  I would have been facing a hip replacement.

Touch of humor:  What did my 90-year old dad have to say about this?  "Son, after all of these years I thought you would have run out of stupid."   I love my dad, and it makes me smile to think I gave him so much pleasure to get one over on me.


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Hi guys -

Lately I've been struggling with an issue on my 1997 4.0L Ranger.  It's been misfiring at idle (hot only) and of course throwing codes 301 and 306.  FYI it has 155K easy miles on it.  I've never towed anything and most of the miles have been at highway speeds.  The truck is in such good shape that it's worth keeping.

The collective wisdom on the internet all points to intake manifold leaks.  I've torn the upper and lower intake down twice to be sure it wasn't an issue.  I even built a smoke machine to try and pinpoint a leak!  Nada.  The fuel trims were a bit lean, so I replaced the HEGO sensors and even rebuilt the EGR system.

Finally I had enough and pulled the heads off.  Here's what I found:



Can you believe it??  This is the worst one - Cylinder #6, but some others were nearly as bad.

You'd think I was pulling fifth wheel trailers up inclines for 155K miles  :o

Clearly the Krauts in Cologne were not minding the induction hardening machine the day that engine went through.  Just goes to show the "obvious" is not always the answer.

I've just received a new set of heads - $685.00 delivered ready to bolt on.  For that money plus some gaskets it's worth keeping the old girl around a while longer.

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