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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / 67 Cyclone
« on: May 23, 2015, 05:35:44 AM »
In the spirit of shady's 62 Galaxie post, here's another report from the 'looks good but none too fast' club.

Performance Summary:
      1/4 mile ET: 15.741   1/4 mile MPH: 88.69
      1/8 mile ET: 10.229   1/8 mile MPH: 73.46
      60 foot time: 2.58
      Track: Virginia Motorsports Park Test & Tune, Dinwiddie VA (well prepped and sticky)
      Weather Conditions: excellent, sunny, 78F, low humidity (6.29 PM)

Vehicle Use: Street
Model Year: 1967
Model: Cyclone
Style: 2-door hardtop
Engine Details: +.030 390 (396 cid?); stock C7 heads, FPA headers, PI intake, Comp XE 256 cam, Holley 650 vacuum sec
Transmission: C6 (with a massive half-track 2-3 shift flare, as I discovered to my great surprise on track at WOT)
Torque converter details (if automatic): stock 1967 Ford
Driveshaft: stock
U-joints: stock
Rear end type: 9-in
Differential type: Track Lok
Gear Ratio: 3.00: 1
Axles: stock
Front tires: 225/70-15 BFG TAs
Front wheels: 15x7 Rocket Fuel Greys
Rear tires: 235/70-15 BFG TAs
Rear wheels: 15x7 Rocket Fuel Greys
Front suspension information: stock
Rear suspension information: stock
Ready-to-race vehicle weight, including driver: 3640 lbs

I was initially quite disappointed; had deluded myself into thinking a low-15ish ET was possible with trap speed in the mid-90s. But with the 2-3 shift issue (which I think prob cost at least .5 sec) and non-optimal (for the drag strip) 3:1 rear gearing I've since got over my hurt feelings. And I'm quite certain there were spectators who were able to get a hamburger and soft drink from the snack bar in the same time it took me to get to 60 feet. On the plus side, on the 190 mile round trip to-from Dinwiddie, the old girl returned a new best of 15 mpg!

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Swan amongst the ducklings...
« on: April 18, 2015, 03:04:14 PM »
Car show season has begun in Tidewater.  Was wandering through a nearby show sponsored by the local Chevy club and came across this parked off to one side of endless rows of Camaros, Novas, Tri-Fives and Chevelles.

A 390 4-speed GT car.

Reminds me of me, showing some wear and tear but aging gracefully and still happy to be seen in in public. 

I love finding these old warriors relaxing in the sunshine on a fine  spring day. 




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FE Technical Forum / Sway Bar/Shock Upgrades - Your Experience/Opinion
« on: April 12, 2015, 11:00:11 AM »
Hello everyone.  With good weather finally appearing I'm looking forward to getting the Cyclone out of winter hibernation and back on the road. 

Not an FE engine matter, but I'd like to take some steps to reduce body roll and improve handling.  Nothing drastic, not interested in autocross or anything like that, but seeking to reduce noticeable body roll when driving tight-radius on- and off-ramps. Even with a fiberglass hood and aluminum PI intake the weight of the big block asserts itself with authority in those situations.

Presently the car has parts store stock-for-application 1-year old Munroe shocks front and rear, as well as the orig factory front sway bar (appears to be 11/16 inch diameter or a hair less).  When I reconditioned the car I replaced the rear leaf springs, front coil spring perches and all suspension rubber, but retained the original front coil springs.

The PST catalogue came in the mail a few weeks ago: for the 67 Fairlane/Comet application PST has a 1-in diameter Polygraphite performance front sway bar kit ($189) and a set of 4 Bilstein high performance non-adjustable shocks for $379.  The shocks are said to feature Bilstein's "patented digressive valving!" (be still my beating heart). I also notice PST advertises a 7/8-in diameter rear sway bar for these cars, which I was unaware existed from the factory (and have no idea how it might install).  It's $189 as well.

When it comes to street applications I'm somewhat of a skeptic when it comes to the claims of the shock companies but feel confident the sway bar(s) would make an appreciable difference.

Before making any final decision on these items, seeking input from forum members.  Thanks.

Michael

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FE Technical Forum / C6 Gremlins
« on: September 07, 2014, 08:42:07 PM »
Continuing the earlier theme of C6 posts, seeking input on a couple of issues (possibly related) that I'm having.

Full disclosure: the transmission wasn't rebuilt when it was out of the car -- it worked before it came out and, when I dropped the pan there was minimal crud evident and the fluid looked and smelled OK.  On that basis I performed an exterior cleaning, installed a deeper pan and new filter, filled it with new fluid and elected to put it back in the car with the stock convertor.

The issue(s):
1 - won't downshift (as in go into "passing gear") under aggressive throttle application.  This issue came to light after my first interstate excursion but wasn't particularly concerning, insomuch as the car has great acceleration from highway cruising speed (2200 rpm and up) and was in any case attributed to a linkage adjustment issue.  I've had a number of goes at getting the linkage sorted but still nothing, so I'm assuming the problem must be something else.

2 - when driven 'enthusiastically' exhibits slippage on the 2-3 upshift.  Under normal conditions (i.e., mild throttle application) it's virtually undetectable; but becomes more pronounced with more aggressive throttle application.  It never fails to make the shift, but the rpm jumps 200-400 revs (again, depending on throttle condition) when the slippage occurs.

I am a newb when it comes to transmissions, but based on reading the shop manual and internet surfing am wondering if these faults are possibly the result of low line pressure and/or vacuum modulator issues?           

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FE Technical Forum / FE Operating Parameters
« on: August 17, 2014, 11:21:31 AM »
This general topic has been previously extensively discussed in several other threads but, rather than come to erroneous conclusions based on other set-ups/experiences, I'm seeking feedback based on my specific application.

Vehicle: 1967 Cyclone

Engine: rebuilt 390 cid (+30, standard stroke) with reconditioned C7AEA heads (standard valve sizing, 3-angle valve seats, hardened exhaust seats, oil restrictors, POP end-stands), 10:1 compression, COMP XE 256 cam (212/219 intake/exhaust duration @ 50, 487/493 intake/exhaust lift), alum C6AZ-9424-H intake, 650 cfm vacuum sec Holley, 7-quart Milodon oil pan, WIX 51773 filter (the big one), Joe Gibb's 'Driven' HR-2 10W-30 oil, rebuilt OEM water pump, original clutch fan and radiator (flushed and pressure tested) w/ 185 degree thermostat (confirmed with the 'boil-in-a-pot-test'); Pertronix 'Igniter II' ignition with Autolite AP45 plugs gapped at .035, total ignition timing 36 degrees all in at 3500 rpm; FPA tri-Ys with 2.5-in H-pipe fitted full-length dual exhaust. 

Engine was broken in last year 'in the car' (20 mins at 3000 rpm no-load) and since then has had about 50 miles of driving on the backstreets of our neighborhood.  The only driven accessory is the alternator.

Drive Train: transmission: C6; rear end: 9-in Traction Lock 3:1 ratio; rear tires: 235/70-15

This morning I took the car out for its first highway run, from our residence to the Norfolk naval base and back on I-64/564.  Total distance is 20 miles driven at between a speedometer-indicated 55mph - 80mph (I haven't yet had a front end alignment done and at about 75mph it shows).  Including a stop in the mall parking lot at the turn-around point to do a chassis and underhood visual check, the trip duration was about 40 mins.  With the out-of-the box carb tune performance is crisp, acceleration is excellent, and it pulls strongly with a nice seat-of-the-pants feel.  (a performance tune on a local chassis dyno is planned later this fall).  Fuel in the 20 gal tank is a 50/50 mix of SUNOCO 100 octane and the local gas station 91 octane premium of undetermined pedigree. There was no pinging/rattling whatsoever. 

Here is what the instruments (both mechanical Auto Meters) indicate:

Water temp (outside temp 88 degrees F, sender located on top front of intake): 205 degrees at highway speed; when stopped at an intersection (in drive, brake on, 800 rpm idle) the temp slowly climbs over 3-4 mins to 220 and then stabiliizes

Oil pressure: on initial start 80 psi for approx 1 min then slowly drops to 30-35 psi at 800 rpm idle; at 55mph (2100 rpm) 45 psi, at 80 mph (3000 rpm) 60 psi.
 
My question: are these numbers typical for a package of the specifications indicated above (should I be happy with them)?

Thanks in advance

Michael

PS: I know, a stroker build was a no-brainer, but this was a 'built-to-budget' project meant as a reliable trouble-free weekend cruiser.  And I already have a street/strip tom-foolery car that my family refuse to ride in (and, therefore, it sits in a barn).

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FE Technical Forum / Shocks for 67 Cyclone
« on: May 30, 2014, 07:28:06 PM »
Hello. Sorry, this isn't a sexy engine question but something much more mundane.

During the revival of the 67 Cyclone new rear leaf springs replaced the tired/sagging/broken units.  With the car now fully re-assembled, interior installed and full tank of gas, it sits right and I like the stance.  Issue is, I've installed the rear shocks picked up at O'Reilly's and, with the car sitting on the ground they are at absolute max extension, which certainly doesn't seem right.  The shocks are stock Monroe service replacements for 66-67 Fairlane/Comet with big block engine.   

Car is equipped with 9-in limited slip, 3:1 ratio, no suspension mods and intended for street cruising and road trips to events.  I'm not looking for a super-whamodyne shock with a bazillion degrees of adjustability.  Nor do I need a concours d'elegance NOS replacements. Simply something that does the job, is durable and delivers decent ride quality. 

I'm puzzled and seek input and advice, in partic specific brands and part numbers that have worked for other folks.

Michael

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Power Window Roller and Track Lubricant
« on: March 02, 2014, 09:09:19 PM »
I'm cleaning up the tracks and rollers in advance of re-installing the windows in the Cyclone.  Once 47-years worth of dirt-encrusted gunk is cleaned off, what's recommended for re-lubricating these assemblies?

Thanks in advance,

Michael

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Member Projects / 67 Cyclone Project - Video
« on: November 30, 2013, 01:39:10 PM »
Busy times here in southern VA, fired the Cyclone up for the first time Wed night before Thanskgiving.  Let's just say it's a great feeling to hear it run and -- now that it moves under its own power -- not to have to push it back and forth out of and into the garage anymore.

Got busy with my very first video effort this morning, a cool, crisp, autumn day.  Lots of room for improvement in technique, but it conveys the general idea: http://s458.photobucket.com/user/mlcraven/media/67CycloneProject_zps369922b6.mp4.html

Sharp-eyed observers will note the oil pressure light is illuminated -- not to worry, the sending unit is now connected to a gauge instead of the idiot light.

Lots more to do if I'm to achieve my goal, an appearance at Beaver Bob's 2nd Annual FE Race and Reunion in April 14.

Enjoy.

Michael 

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Member Projects / Radio Delete Plate
« on: September 22, 2013, 05:46:46 PM »
After the disappointment of the water pump, I decided to do something easy today.  Tired of the gaping hole in the dash where the radio goes, and unable (at the momet) to afford a sound system to fill it, I  used some heavy black card stock and a silver paint pen to make a 'radio delete' plate.  Have no idea if this is even remotely close to the original, but it works!

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FE Technical Forum / Water Pump Drip Blues
« on: September 21, 2013, 08:54:43 PM »
In anticipation of firing the Cyclone up in a couple of weeks today I filled the cooling system.  This thing has been dry since I got it back from rebuild more than a year ago.  I re-used the water pump that came with it when I bought the car, I believe it to be the original 1967 pump based on the embossed Ford part number, original fasteners, etc.  Probably not the wisest thing to do, re-using a 46 year old water pump, but what the heck, I reasoned that they're not difficult to replace and if it does go, I can upgrade to an aluminum one.  If it continues to function, well, I've saved some cash.

Anyway, filled the sytem up with a 50/50 mix of Peak anti-freeze and water and didn't notice any leaks.  Went away to do something else and returned , you guessed it, to find a puddle under the car and a steady green coolant drip off the harmonic balancer onto the sway bar and thence onto the garage floor -- nothing huge or leak-like but a drip about every 3-4 seconds.

I threw a plastic pan under it and then a mental light bulb came on.  Loosened off the belt and vigorously spun the pump over by hand for about two mins.  Drip immediately reduces to about once every ten seconds.  Waited 5 mins and did the same thing, drip reduces to once every 30 secs.  Repeated 5 mins later, drip goes to about once a minute.  That was about 30 mins ago; I just checked again and NO drip.

Seems the god of hot-rodding may finally be tired of having his sport with me.

So the question is: is it possible the leak was a result of the pump bearing/seal drying out over the last two years and now it's cured itself?  Or am I kidding myself...should a smart guy spring for a new pump and get busy installing it?   

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FE Technical Forum / Throttle Linkage Options
« on: August 11, 2013, 06:26:52 PM »
Pic shows (what I believe to be) the original throttle linkage assembly on the Cyclone, but when bought by me being used with a Carter Thunder-series carb mounted on a 1966 PI aluminum intake.  I'm now going with a 4150-series Holley on the same intake and I'm wondering what options (OEM, Holley, Lokar, etc) are available in the way of a more modern/tidier linkage set-up.

Any advice/recommendations greatly appreciated.

Michael

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FE Technical Forum / 1967 Fairlane/Comet FE Motor Mounts
« on: July 31, 2013, 08:15:17 PM »
Getting ready to put the 390 back in the Cyclone.  Wouldn't you know it; amongst the hundreds of photos I snapped during disassembly I somehow managed not to get any of the motor mounts before I removed them from the engine.  My Steve Christ FE book doesn't really have very good/helpful pics, and Barry's book discusses 2- and 4-hole blocks but has no pics of mounts.  Fortunately, page 101 of the Shop Manual has a legible diagram and that's what I've followed.

The mount assemblies are a 3-component deal: a 3-hole insulator that goes on the block; an intermediate support bracket with a downward facing threaded stud, and a 4-bolt K-member plate.  The K-member plates can really only go in one way.  I thought the insulators at least would be marked LH/RH, but one has a "Made in Korea" marking only and the other has an embossed Ford logo and "P.H" mark.

After consulting the Shop manual plus some measuring and general MK1 eyeball work the pics below show how I've assembled it.

Does this look about right? 

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Member Projects / 67 Cyclone Bodel Panel Fitment - Opinions/Advice
« on: December 03, 2012, 10:50:27 PM »
Getting to grips with pre-paint panel alignment and final fitment.  Have installed the doors and aligned the trailing edge with the leading edge of the quarter panel and the door bottom with the upper edge of the rocker panel, using the old paint stick alignment gauge.   So far so good.

But beggared if I can get a nice alignment along the trailing edge of the front fenders and the leading edge of the doors.  It's at the point where I'm really stumped.

It has dawned on me, maybe I shouldn't be attempting this on a uni-body car with the drivetrain out and perhaps this is part of the current issue.  Is it possible the combined weight of the 390 and C6 would impart a sag to the front of the car that would correct the front fender alignment issue.  Or that if I do get the fender alignment sorted without the power train in, that when the engine/trans are installed it's going to throw things out of wack again?

Any thoughts would be very much appreciated.

   

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / FE Power at Henderson NC
« on: October 20, 2012, 10:25:56 PM »
Awesome Main Street car show in Henderson NC this weekend.  Lots of FE representation, including this beautiful 64 Galaxie and a Joniec 67 Mustang resto:




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FE Technical Forum / Pre-lubing tool
« on: September 17, 2012, 07:22:11 PM »
Hi everyone.  I'm new here -- Mike Craven from Norfolk VA.  I'm actually a Canuck submariner in the Royal Canadian Navy, orig from NS Canada, serving here with the USN submarine force since 2010.

Outside of work and family I'm restoring a 67 Mercury Cyclone with a 390 FE and C6.  You can see the whole project over at the Bangshift.com site...the thread under project cars is "Back to the Blue Oval".

I had the engine refreshed a month ago, a very conservative/mild build with a few upgrades to bring things up to snuff -- my aim was to produce the 390 that Ford should have been building in 66-67.  That is to say, one that's capable of holding its own against similar displacement 325-335 horse RBs and GM big blocks.

My question is this: what's out there in the way of FE compatible pre-lube tools that can be stuck on the end of an electric drill?  Or is there some way this can be easily fabbed up from junkyard bits?

Appreciate any assistance.  Great site, very civil tone and lots of useful info.  Been following JayBs previous year Drag Week exploits with interest...sorry things didn't work out this year.

Thanks again.

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