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Sorry for the double post. Please remove in needed.

Brand new MSD-# 8594
Pro-Billet, Magnetic Trigger, Mechanical Advance, Ford, Big Block FE,
$375
Summit $408
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-8594

New..RobMc fuel pump. Ford FE
$225

Up To1100 HP (not the 550 HP) Mechanical Fuel Pump. #1139 This is the great adjustable pump, from 7-14 psi and volume 212 gallons per hour free flow, 175 gallon per hour at 4.5 psi. Fantastic pump. $255.00 Matching Regulator Dual Mode Fuel Pump #1046 $115

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Private Classifieds / FE Parts For Sale
« on: June 24, 2022, 01:33:28 PM »
Brand new MSD-# 8594
Pro-Billet, Magnetic Trigger, Mechanical Advance, Ford, Big Block FE,
$375
Summit $408
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-8594

New..RobMc fuel pump. Ford FE
$225

Up To1100 HP (not the 550 HP) Mechanical Fuel Pump. #1139 This is the great adjustable pump, from 7-14 psi and volume 212 gallons per hour free flow, 175 gallon per hour at 4.5 psi. Fantastic pump. $255.00 Matching Regulator Dual Mode Fuel Pump #1046 $115

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Best FE Heads And Why ?
« on: June 07, 2021, 08:03:00 AM »
On TFS FE head, says their not in stock ?

https://www.trickflow.com/search/product-line/trick-flow-powerport-175-cylinder-heads-for-ford-390-428

Much of what has been said, is over what my brain can understand.
So, with my TWM/BORLA stack injection, which heads and flow would be great for my 428FE ?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Best FE Heads And Why ?
« on: June 07, 2021, 07:50:56 AM »
You should take a look at Jay's heads.

KS

I personally feel like Jay's heads would work fine on a street/strip deal as the cross section should be fine, just not sure they're needed if a guy is running a stock block as it would be in the "danger zone" for sure.  Plus I think the OP has a multi-stack EFI/carb type intake that wouldn't work with the heads.  Also not sure how well Jay's heads/intake will fit under a low hood line?

Correct, I have a stack EFI intake. Why wouldn't Jay's heads work ?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Best FE Heads And Why ?
« on: June 06, 2021, 12:07:19 PM »
So I just read this thread.  I'm not going to try to sell my heads on here.  A person should do research and make an informed decision.  "Patrick CNC" can't accurately describe a pimple on an elephant's ass of all of the different programs we have.  I have revised the "Street Pro Port" seven times over the course of the time Edelbrock has been doing those castings.  When a person comes here for heads, the first things to figure out are budget, and how they intend to use it.   From there, I try to inform them to the best of my ability and do something to maximize their "bang for the buck".  There are five intake ports, two exhaust ports, and two combustion chambers that we generally sell in Ed Pro Port castings when selling cylinder heads or top end packages. I have a few other ports that we use in class legal or max effort race apps, that are cost prohibitive.......if not working within rules, it just isn't a sensible way to go.

"Street Pro Ports" have stock MR location intake and exhaust flanges.  I don't advertise numbers.  I sell heads that work.  Just for information purposes, I had Bischoff flow a Street Pro Port as a "3rd party".   320 at .500, 347 at .700.  Exhaust 240-ish in the stock location.  I don't need to go into any more detail here, but the ports are in the MR location, and they don't look like anything else mentioned here, and they do not cost $6K.  $4200 is current pricing for standard seats and 72cc chambers.  From there, there are MANY options. It is possible to get Econo Pro Ports for $3500, or max effort class-legal heads that are 15K. Raised and relocated exhaust ports flow 255 to 280 depending on port and valve size.  It all depends on goals and use. From 55cc chambers, to Oval Port and High Riser intake ports that will flow 400+ cfm, depending on where they are flowed.  I never see more than 390 here on any of my ports, but other folks have benches that read higher than mine.

We also work on many other brands of heads.  We just finished R&D on the next generation BBM heads. They are better than current offerings with only a 2.100 intake valve, and notably superior to any current stock location shelf available heads with the optional cnc package. They should be available in the Fall. 


Posted for information and clarification.  I'm not sure why every topic in which my stuff is mentioned always results in one or more experts on here, without fail, making false assumptions or misleading statements about my junk.  Sometimes there are trade-offs to accomplish goals.  Often, a max flow number is given up to get more meat where it needs it.  Sometimes ports are smaller, with high velocity by design, so quoting a flow number doesn't tell the whole story.  If you just buy a flow number, you may not get what you need.  Lots more to it. 
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Blair, I have a .030 block with a stock stroke and thinking of buying a 462 stroker. Can you give me the top three or so, of heads and which cfm to check out ? I know there's a lot different ways to go, but just your words of wisdom on what the engine needs. 😎

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FE Technical Forum / 428 Stroker Power ?
« on: June 06, 2021, 10:27:20 AM »
I almost bought a 460/525 for $3,500 with everything but the heads. I spoke with the engine builder said with a little bigger cam and good heads, it should have 650-750 HP/TQ. A guy has a pair of P-51 heads. I would have needed a 460 bellhousing,.. for $2,150.

Anyway...

Ok, basically I've decided to stroke my 428FE. It's at .030 over, stock stroke. Who's and which stroker kit would you b

It's been a long & hard the last 15 years with my bad health and was screwed over of 12,000, I'll do one of two things.

One- just buy a roller cam, lifters and push rods.

Two- find a built engine that already has performance done, either a long block or short block, then maybe sell the one I have.

Three - take the engine apart and install a stroker kit. The engine is almost stock, but Jim Dove increased the bore to .030, stock stroke.

I will miss the the amazing power of the 460 though. But, the Cobra will have the engine it's supposed to have. 😎

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Best FE Heads And Why ?
« on: June 02, 2021, 04:13:42 PM »
With those criteria, if you have the funds, a set of Blair Patric pro ports would arguably be “the best”.

But I think if you look at the dyno section you will find that the Felony, BBM or trick flow heads are all capable of those numbers. The TF look to offer a bit more bang for the buck with the CNC porting, but they have their quirks.

I think most would agree that the BP PP heads are on another level and are worth the extra money.

There are others out there, the pro-max are not so cheep knock offs of edelbrocks, ( from what I’ve heard, and for the price you might as well just buy a set of the Edelbrocks.

Speaking of Edelbrock heads, out of the box you probably won’t get there, but with some work they have made some serious power.

Take a look at the dyno section and it should give you a pretty good idea of what heads will do what.

How much are Blair's pro ports ?

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So a stock 428FE is better than a 428/462 ?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Best FE Heads And Why ?
« on: June 02, 2021, 09:18:58 AM »
Pretty broad question, what is the intended application supposed to do? A mild cruiser and a 8 second drag car have vastly different head requirements, as does a .030" over 352, compared to a 520 cube engine. Kinda like asking how high is up.

Just in general, middle of the road, average, combo of street & racing, low to high rpm....but if you must, on the street, 500-650 HP/TQ.
Ya know, best of all worlds.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Best FE Heads And Why ?
« on: June 02, 2021, 09:13:13 AM »
AFR doesn’t make FE heads

Sorry, I meant Trick Flow.

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"Specific output probably will go down as cubes are added''.

Why does that happen ?

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FE Technical Forum / Best FE Heads And Why ?
« on: June 01, 2021, 08:31:56 PM »
What manufacturer do you like the best, and why ?

Which are ready out of the box ?
Are $3,000 heads worth it ?
Is max flow the only factor that matters ?
What makes one manufacturer better than the rest ?.
Can highly polished ports make a big difference in flow ?
How much does port matching matter ?

How do you like the new AFR heads and why ?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: .050 Over 428FE ?
« on: June 01, 2021, 04:38:23 PM »
When doing a sonic test, usually the thinnest spot is recorded, meaning everywhere else is greater than that spot.  After you do several sonic tests, you can begin to recognize the pattern of how a cylinder is shaped.  Many have over .200" in the thrust areas, only to have a spot somewhere that is less.  Many blocks start out thick, go thin, and end up thick at the bottom.  Also, many of the blocks that used antifreeze will be thicker than those in other climates where plain water was used.  Simple logic, but if a block has had antifreeze in it since new, it can still have thick bores even after 60 years.  I do have a block that is making 600 hp with ~125" on the thrust walls at the thinnest spot, and less than .100" on a couple of inside walls.  Next time I tear it down, it will get a half fill of hard block, and a light hone with torque plate.  Joe-JDC

Joe, please give me details about how you got to 600 HP.

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How much power could you expect from a stock 428FE with a 462 stroker kit and good aluminum heads ?
I know there's many variables, but just a average.
How much more with a great pair of heads ?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: .050 Over 428FE ?
« on: May 30, 2021, 02:56:39 PM »
"100 is less than an 1/8 of an inch, if you are trusting 1/8th of 600 HP working that against that thrust thickness, IMO, you'd better be sure of location and the condition of the rest of the cylinder''. Wow, that tells a not so good story.

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