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FE Technical Forum / Re: 428/C6 no block plate?
« on: January 27, 2024, 04:39:36 PM »
Lesson is to not let Chevy guys work on Fords. They know diddly squat about them and screw them up. One local yahoo is a diehard Chevy guy but wanted a Cobra kit car... and it had to be "correct" with a 427 Ford. So of course he had starter problems, never solved despite spending thousands on different fancy starters and flywheels and shims, never even knew they made ones for Fords but they do, a ring with the bolt holes. So then finally, after a year he calls me and asks what the flat plate is for on the new thousand dollar Quicktime bellhousing "My Lakewood never had that".

Well, while that’s true and the previous mechanic should have caught what the mechanic that has it now when he did the starter, it looks like the real problem was the guys who rebuilt the trans did not put the block plate and inspection plate back in. That was like 3 years ago so they aren’t going to do anything about it now. It’s been such a pain because when the trans burned up it also caused a leak in the radiator which caused water and trans fluid to mix. With your guys help and this new mechanic that knows Fords I should finally get past all this. Lesson: If you know your trans is going out, get it rebuilt before it burns up.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 428/C6 no block plate?
« on: January 25, 2024, 06:12:15 PM »
Which 4 bolts? The block plate is just sandwiched between the block and the bellhousing, and is held in position by the dowel pins. The 6 bolts that hold the bellhousing to the block are 7/16 NC, with a 5/8" bolt head, the inspection cover bolts are 5/16" NC, with a 1/2" bolt head, as are the starter bolts.

The 4 inspection cover bolts. 5/16 NC and do you know how long?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 428/C6 no block plate?
« on: January 25, 2024, 05:08:19 PM »
Got the inspection plate today. Thanks again FERoadster. Still at the mechanic so hopefully that means I wont have to crawl under the car to put it on. Anyone know the size of those 4 bolts?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 428/C6 no block plate?
« on: January 20, 2024, 01:38:57 AM »
We’re replacing the flywheel. Actually we did a whole variety of things, including replacing the rear main seal while we were in there. Mechanic seems to know what he’s doing regarding Fords and I’m going to trust him to figure it out from here. We should be good now. Thanks guys. Will message you in a sec FERoadster.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 428/C6 no block plate?
« on: January 18, 2024, 01:30:55 PM »
LOL. Sent this link to the shop. Guy is looking at tunnel wedge’s photo and another mechanic says he has one. They are going to throw it in at no cost. No inspection cover, though. LMk how much you’d want for just the inspection plate, if you’d break up a set FERoadster and thanks again for the photo Tunnel!

ETA: Tucson, AZ 85746

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 428/C6 no block plate?
« on: January 18, 2024, 12:41:57 PM »
Ok, so I think what must have happened is the guys that rebuilt my transmission left it out and that is causing the starter issues. So, now the hunt to find one (preferably on this continent). How do I determine which one I need?

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FE Technical Forum / 428/C6 no block plate?
« on: January 18, 2024, 05:25:46 AM »
Have a 428 with a C6. Starter went out, I had a mechanic put a new one in, new starter ate the flywheel. Now at different mechanic, been held up for weeks because new mechanic seems sure it should have a block plate and it doesn’t. He can’t find one that fits. I think it never had one. He thinks it has to have one or I could end up in the same spot. Please help. Literally been dealing with this for years and it has cost me thousands because my starter went out.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Fan shroud for 63 Galaxie 427
« on: December 28, 2023, 12:39:44 AM »
Well, I was wrong. That shroud I got off ebay wont work. I’ll have to meet up with my friend and find out the details.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Fan shroud for 63 Galaxie 427
« on: December 26, 2023, 08:35:54 PM »
Yes, sorry. They came on cars with AC and also the 427 cars and maybe also the 406’s. I’m told its the same part.

The reason I mention that part supposedly only fits 352 and 390 is they also have a 1964 shroud that they mention will fit a 406. They don’t list any of them as fitting, or being correct for, the 427.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Fan shroud for 63 Galaxie 427
« on: December 26, 2023, 08:08:22 PM »
Yes, all of these would be for AC cars with FEs. That’s why I think this shroud off a 62 t-bird with AC will work, provided I get the right brackets. I see from a catalog I have there is a the top/bottom kind made in plastic that says for 60-63 Galaxie but it doesn’t say it will fit anything besides 352 and 390 AC cars. Part number C3AZ8147. I’m on the waitlist for one of those, but of course I’d rather use original sheet metal if possible.

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FE Technical Forum / Fan shroud for 63 Galaxie 427
« on: December 26, 2023, 12:29:20 PM »
Hello,

I have a 63 1/2 R code Galaxie and I am going to be taking out the radiator and repainting it along with the overflow tank and when I put it all back in I also want to put a correct shroud on it. Car came to me without a fan shroud. Guy I know with the same car told me I needed a 2 piece (he said top and bottom) fan shroud. I saw it on his car but didn’t pay attention to the details or take pics (duh) and I have found that the top and bottom fan shrouds, even plastic repops, are impossible to find. I did pick up a shroud off ebay (see pic) that came off a 62 t-bird and I think it will work, but maybe I’m wrong. I see that I can also get brackets on ebay (assume I’ll need those) but other than that I’m not quite sure how the fan shroud attaches. I don’t see any drilled holes on the car for mounting the brackets. Thoughts?

Ebay shroud: https://ibb.co/sJWwyWY

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Starter chewed up 428 flex plate
« on: August 17, 2023, 08:14:39 PM »
That flywheel is correct for a 428 or 410.  You don't need to have it balanced unless your broken flywheel was balanced --weight removed or added to the flywheel-- with your existing engine if you had the crank balanced.

Thanks Gerry. Any thoughts on the Ultima R713143A starter? Any other parts I should provide to mechanic? Does it make sense to do the rear main seal too if it leaks?

https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/ultima/alternators---starters/starter/dad3c6651e74/ultima-starter-remanufactured/ost0/r713143a

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Starter chewed up 428 flex plate
« on: August 17, 2023, 07:45:28 PM »
Another option would be to throw a car cover on this car and forget about it until I can afford to have an entirely new motor built for it. This one is fine but I’d like one that has more power.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Starter chewed up 428 flex plate
« on: August 17, 2023, 07:15:27 PM »
This looks like the “correct” flex plate and is more affordable than the one I posted. The mechanic I am taking the car to is not a Ford expert so if I bring him a bad starter/plate combo, that’s what he is going to put in.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/atp-z242

Do I need to get this balanced at a machine shop first? Do I need the plate that is still in the car to match them?

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