Mark, I bored mine from 4.23 to 4.375, so I felt I was getting close to the edge with smaller gaskets.  I like to make sure I clearly cover the fire ring of the gasket when compressed, but as long as you are small enough to do that it shouldn't matter.

I ended up with 2 more over time, but I could have likely got by with one more.  I have 2 sitting in the hone rack, and usually use the last one as a pressure tester

Yes you can, we did my first one that way, use it all the time on big bore stuff up through 4.375

Then I ended up buying one for the 427-ish bores and one for the small bores.

BTW, they work great for pressure testing too

Long enough ago that I remember it easy now, but it could have had a lot of swearing involved too!

That'll haul the mail!

I am just noting the hypocrisy of putting down Chinese made goods, made in China and finished in the US, no different than the Molnar finished Chinese rods on a Carrillo design and the Pro Maxx heads of the same type thing.

Of course you don't sell Pro Maxx

Frank, if that applies to me, that is your interpretation without reading the posts carefully and it's dead wrong. 

- As Brent said, my primary concern is buying copied parts of US made stuff in production.  It has been over 20 years in production for Edelbrock RPM stuff, so likely not a crime, but shady.
- I prefer to buy US when I can, by a longshot.  If it doesn't meet the price requirement set by the customer's budget, then I have to permanently or temporarily find a solution.  I will say that I will discount or provide a credit to do the right thing if things are close.
- If you are trying to infer that it's a profit thing because I do or do not sell Promaxx, it's silly,  Promaxx has a decent markup and readily available to me.  Happy to drop ship you a set.

Brent is right, I may be too calm and patient, but honestly it's based on my experiences and not just engines. No need to let it make you crazy Frank, crazy drives mistakes.  You do not have to agree, and I do not expect an admission from either side, ever, that the other is right or wrong.

Good point on Molnar and SCAT in terms of flow of money.  I can't really argue if the parts are a complete copy, but like Brent, my Carillos in my Cobra did not at all look like a SCAT or Molnar or K1.  Additionally, SCAT parts in general do not seem to be a copy of any stateside piece that I know of, so YES, money going overseas is sure not where I like to be, but those parts are less of an intellectual property issue.  In fact, maybe my AFR was a bad example in hindsight, especially if AFR comissioned them to do it.  My issue has been has always been with the blatant copy of heads and intakes re-released into our market.

Unfortunately, there are not as many good opportunities between rods and cranks as there are heads, so when money is flowing AND it's a copy as well for heads and intakes, I get a bit more reluctant.  Shame on me for adjusting the rules to my argument, but I am not dying on the sword for anti-Chinese as much as saying, when you have an option, avoid the Chinese copy.

I do not know a crank or rod supplier than an average Joe can budget for right now.  I'd like to see a SCAT priced US only capscrew I-beam for 6.488 rods, same with all cast and forged cranks, with light and affordable options for the strokers.  I'll continue to chase options for those, but at this point no leads.

I meant it, at some point a good, repeat customer will show up at my shop with a set, I don't have an answer, but hope they don't.

Agree

I don't see a lot of difference either.  The pictures aren't perfect, the bottom edge looks different, but I think it's the picture.  Imagine the Edel on the bottom rolled slightly toward you so you can't see the intake face.  Even if I wasn't in the original Stevens discussion, it looks pretty copied to me.