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Messages - Rory428

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If your engine is truly a 57K mileage and never been into, then you should definitely think about changing the camshaft timing gears and chain.  You can still find C6AE-9425-H aluminum intakes and C7AE-F intakes with the thermactor tubing holes and remove about 50# from the engine.  735 cfm Holley and FPA headers, and 2 1/2" exhausts and call it good for the street.  Joe-JDC
I absolutely agree with Joe on replacing the stock nylon camshaft timing gear, if it is still in there. Same with the valve stem oil seals. I have pulled down quite a few "untouched" Ford engines, that had an abundance of fragmented nylon timing gear teeth, and disintegrated valve stem seals in the bottom of the oil pan. And for whatever reason, Ford chose to put a round hole in the screen of the oil pump pickup tube, which is more than adequate to allow small pieces of cam teeth/valve stem seals to find there way into the oil pump, which will jam up the oil pump gears, which then lock up, and twist up the oil pump drive rod, like a barber pole, until it snaps. The engine keeps running, but with no oil pressure, and even if you catch it as soon as the oil pressure gauge drops, or the idiot light comes on, and the lifters start ticking, there is a very good chance that you won`t be able to shut the engine off before the crankshaft bearings get destroyed.. I lost a very good running , low mile 302 in my 79 Mercury Zephyr Z7 that I bought from the 94 year old original owner about 10 years ago. I was cruising down the freeway, and suddenly the oil light came on, so I shut off the engine right away, and coasted to the side of the highway.  I checked the oil level first, which was fine, but when I tried to crank the engine over, it was already stuck. I sure wish that I would have changed the timing chain set and valve seals before hand.

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Not sure what you mean by "Media Blast", but if you are referring to something like "Wheelabrading" or shot blasting, my concern would be trying to get ALL of the steel beads out on the block afterwards. I have had cylinder heads cleaned that way, and they look like brand new, but those tiny steel beads can be pretty much impossible to get them all out. Same with sandblasting and glass bead blasting, my machinist buddy has had issues with intake manifolds and cylinder heads that had been glass beaded, and then ended up with errant fragments showing up and seizing up valve guides. I have never "media blasted" a block, and the current 428 had a lot of rust and scale in the water jackets, which took a lot of effort to remove, but patience, some long skinny screw drivers, wire rod (like gas welding rods), compressed air, and some long wire brushes, along with plenty of hot soapy water and time, got the block pretty clean and scale free. I probably spend 3 or 4 hours just of the rust removal, the scale in the bottom of of the water jackets was well over 1/2" deep of loose debris. When I was done, I could fill the jackets with fresh water, shake the block, and when I dumped the water, there was no more flakes coming out. I wonder if a place that dips car bodies in a huge tank to remove rust, like Redi Strip would remove such rust, but there is no such facility anywhere near my location.

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If the cylinders were indeed that thin, I couldn`t imagine that engine wouldn`t have split all the cylinder walls in normal use. Or how they could all possibly so thin at 4.05" standard bore, unless maybe it was a boat engine that was using salt water cooling, and that ate away more of the cylinder walls from the backside. Many years ago, when I worked at an engine shop, we had a Chevy 11 style 4 cylinder engine (Think 194 6 cylinder missing 2 cylinders), that was a boat engine, that was getting coolant in the oil. When the water pump was removed, you see pinholes that went completely thru the cylinder walls.

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I have always just used the factory crank sleeve/spacer to center the timing cover to the block, and I have never had to pull down the timing cover against the seal to make it flush with the pan rails of the block, just rotate the cover a bit to ensure both sides match up. I suppose if a block had been align bored a bunch, that could be an issue, but I have never had that situation.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Edelbrock head NASCAR version
« on: December 20, 2025, 10:14:44 PM »
The only FE Edelbrock aluminum cylinder heads that I have seen with "NHRA" engraved on the ends, were a couple of different varieties , like the small valve 390 heads, and 428 Cobra Jet  versions.  Never heard of a "NASCAR" FE head, especially considering that FE engines were abandoned by NASCAR racers many years before Edelbrock started to cast FE heads.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Anyone using an A/F gauge in their car?
« on: December 07, 2025, 11:21:17 AM »
A while back, I bought an Innovate AF ratio gauge for my 59, but have yet to install it. Just curious where you guys install the bung fitting. I have FPA semi shorty headers on the 428 in my 59, so guessing that it will have to go in one of the down pipes after the headers, but how far back? I guess whatever side offers the most clearance?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Oil pan and windage tray gaskets.
« on: December 07, 2025, 11:17:26 AM »
I like the black composite FelPro oil pan gaskets, have used them for many years without issue. Should be available at virtually any auto parts store.

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That green 32 Ford Roadster almost had me fooled for a second, seems that dressing up a SB Chevy to kinda look like a Ford engine, in this case, a Y Block, is alive and well 1/2 way around the world. Especially with the Ford truck looking Rams Horn exhaust manifolds. Interesting how the yellow Charger has a good sized section of body between the rear of the trunk lid and the back of the car. Imagine trying to load/unload heavy items in the trunk could be challenging, especially if one was fairly short, or not wanting to scratch up the paint. Being in Australia, I though the the 351 Cleveland would have been better represented, didn`t they make the 351C in Australia much longer than North America?  I always thought that the 351C was a great looking engine, and had great aftermarket support in Australia.  Also, seems like the old style Centerline "Auto Drag" wheels are pretty popular down under. I have had Centerline Auto Drags on my Fairmont for almost 40 years now, and am on a Centerline facebook group, and there are lots of Aussies there. Thanks for the photos.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Impact Of Valve Lash On Idle Quality
« on: November 04, 2025, 10:38:09 PM »
like NHRA Stock Eliminator, where hydraulic lifters are mandated by rules,

Rory, you do know that rule is superseded and solid lifters can now be run in any combination. 😁
Mike, yes, I understand that NHRA does allow solid lifters in Stock Eliminator now, but when I was running my 85 Mustang in M/Stock some time back, we still had to use a hydraulic lifter (I used Sherman short travel lifters), and factory rocker arms, which I used with adjustable pushrods. Between wheelie bars, fuel cells, lightweight race seats, "approved" aftermarket aluminum cylinder heads, Quick Fuel carbs etc, not to mention all the limited production late model  "factory drag cars", like Drag Pak Challengers, COPO Camaros, and Cobra Jet Mustangs, that are allowed to use engines, transmissions, and rearends that are not even similar to what the actual production street cars , have certainly changed the Stock landscape.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Ford 8.8 Clutch Pack Minimum Thickness
« on: November 02, 2025, 08:05:43 PM »
Years ago, when I ran a 8.8 rearend with a factory traction Lok unit, we chose to install good used clutch packs, which allowed an extra friction disc per side, which provided a tighter package, but with more of a tendency for dragging/chattering around corners, but with greater holding capability. So good for performance duty, but not so much for normal street driving. I don`t recall what the package thickness was, but as long as it will physically fit together, in the carrier, more clutch discs provide more surface area, so better holding power.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Impact Of Valve Lash On Idle Quality
« on: November 02, 2025, 07:57:01 PM »
This post is somewhat confusing. Valve lash is clearance between the rocker arm and the valve, as used on solid lifter cams, hydraulic lifters use lifter preload, which is NO lash, but rather is the lifter plunger being pushed down from it`s "topped up position.  On a solid lifter cam and lifters, valve lash is used to provide some clearance , to allow for the expansion of engine components as the engine heats up, which reduce that clearance and can prevent the valve from completely closing, to seal the cylinder to allow full compression, as well as giving some time for the valves to transfer heat to the head casting. On a solid lifter application, increased (more) valve lash, typically leads to a smoother idle, with more noise. With hydraulic lifter PRELOAD, as long as the preload puts the plunger in the correct position range, idle should not really be effected, but if the plunger is down to far, it CAN effect idle quality , personally, with normal hydraulic lifters, with mildish cams, I have found 1/2 turn of preload is usually good, of course in the case of aluminum heads and blocks, heat expansion preload can be effected more than with cast iron components. Lifter preload, can limit engine RPM capability, so in some cases, like NHRA Stock Eliminator, where hydraulic lifters are mandated by rules, it is common to run basically zero preload, and with some special "low travel" hydraulic lifters, a slight amount of actual lash is used.

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OK thanks. I was kinda thinking that they were, considering he had a 66 7 Litre Galaxie, and all the other parts were for 66s.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: 65/66 Galaxie clutch linkage.
« on: October 12, 2025, 05:10:19 PM »
Thanks, it appears that the clutch fork that came with the bellhousing must be incorrect, as the fork has a large chamfered hole, similar to how my 70 Mustang R code was, that is meant to be used with spacer with a rounded end where it fit into the clutch fork. I will see if any of these parts have any actual part or manufacturing numbers stamped into them, besides the bellhousing.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / 65/66 Galaxie clutch linkage.
« on: October 11, 2025, 11:22:29 PM »
I understand that there was a couple of different versions of some of the clutch linkage used on 65/66 Galaxies, with FE engines. I recently got what appears to be an almost complete set of clutch linkage from , I believe a 66 7 Litre Galaxie, but some of it is quite different from the Mustang and Fairlane stuff that I am more familiar with. I seem to recall somebody on one of the FE Forums had previously posted some photos showing the differences, just wondering if that was somebody here? The Z bar lower lever for the clutch fork has a "hook" style notch, rather than a pin like most other Fords that I am more familiar with, but the rod for it is threaded for adjustment, with a pointy end. However the clutch fork has a beveled hole, that is larger than the end of the rod. So I am wondering if either the clutch fork is the wrong application, or if there should be something to go between the fork hole and the rod. I also have a Toploader tailshaft, supposedly from a 7 Litre Galaxie, which has a different shifter mounting pattern than a Mustang or Fairlane, with the speedo hole on the drivers side, rather than the passenger side.  It also came with a 4 speed console plate, and a shifter body and 2 rods, plus a chrome shifter lever. Wonder if the shifter handle was the same for a console and no console application, the shifter body seems to be mounted fairly high, at least compared to 67-70 Mustangs or 66-69 Fairlanes. And the shifter lever goes straight up a ways before curving. And it seems that there is no over center spring on the clutch pedal, but looks like there is one that mounts on the frame side Z bar pivot and the Z bar itself. And the bellhousing has a pivot ball for the Z bar, rather than a bracket, as used on most other FEs that I have played with . Just trying to find if I have a mish match of pieces, or if  it is a mostly complete assembly for a Galaxie. I would post some photos, but I have never been able to figure out how to post photos on this site from my cell phone. Thanks.

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I recently bought a bunch of parts left over from a local guys collection after he sold his 66 7 Litre Galaxie. Among a bunch of other stuff, is a NOS set of Ford fender skirts, in a a box with the part number C5AZ-6227964-B. Since that is a 1965 part number, just wondering if they also fit a 66 Galaxie. I just want to be able to make up a correct ad when I put them up for sale. Thanks.

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