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Messages - Mark Bliss

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Before the 426 Hemi came to power, so to speak, in the nitro classes, old 392's were routinely patched up just as you noted since even then, say 1966 or so, the old school Hemis were getting rare in junkyards.
I have seen a few of those relics with entire block sides filled with brazing. Crazy looking stuff!

Oops, just realized I was replying to a very old post...
Dummy.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« on: September 30, 2026, 06:18:59 PM »
Thanks for the link. I had missed that one.
Little of that build matches my intentions, but still... very interesting.
More cubes, more cam, more induction... heads with those flow numbers should be lively!

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« on: September 28, 2026, 08:55:26 PM »
Blair,
That is awesome! And I would very much like to see ALL the details you would care to share.
I think I have to accept that most people dont really care to openly share knowledge at the level I seek. I have tried to humbly hint I am not uninformed...

Being on the vintage OE block side of this specific discussion, those power levels are a little out of reach.
I reckon I am more of a "kissing the 550-600" range while accepting the reality that beyond that range I am taking risks...

My I interest lays in the details. Combinations. Power under the curve. Broad midrange heavy power curves. Best average torque within a given range.

Peak numbers, bragging rights and egomania bore me to tears.


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FE Technical Forum / Re: pro maxx head options
« on: September 28, 2026, 06:32:42 PM »
JFC, I think an alternative engine swap is more attractive all the time!

Some people just can't comprehend the effective difference between shooting into space and a shooting into close proximity to your own foot.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« on: September 22, 2026, 01:35:21 PM »
Actually Doug, you would be completely incorrect on the first part, and I completely agree on the rest.
That is in fact the knowledge and data I seek both as a customer and curious enthusiast.

And I had nor have a desire to pick on any individual. I just think perhaps it is a benefit to all to consider how we present ourselves publicly.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« on: September 22, 2026, 09:29:32 AM »
First, a thank you to the heavy hitter knowledge and experience that responded to my thread.
Especially Joe who consistently keeps it professional and sticks to the technical.

Re-read the first line of my OP... and consider why I may have been reluctant to even open the can of worms.
See, contrary to the status of "newbie" I am not new here. I actually participated on the old forum back before this one was even created.
I have witnessed how people behave. I quit reading this very forum over annoyance with the persistent pissing contests. The one that I would call the final straw involved individuals in this very thread. I am feeling like I may be headed in the same direction.

This "hobby" is pretty fragile. I have played long enough to see parts availability come and go. Choices were always limited from the beginning. So competing for business was also challenging.  A well known FE racer (I dont care to drop names) and I were discussing parts and I mentioned one FE specialist of the time (1970s) and the well known racer said "their stuff is a four letter word."
It was challenging then as it is now. The constant is that as a consumer, I am picky about who I deal with. Ross, while being understated, makes some good points on this.
End rant...

So back to cylinder head choices, from a shopping consumer and curious builder. Keeping in mind we aren't talking all out high rpm race stuff.
Joe's data is an interesting study.
Blair, are you asserting the BBM head might offer "more power under the curve" despite comparative flow numbers?
I am well aware that sometimes velocity Trumps raw flow numbers.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« on: September 12, 2026, 04:26:40 PM »
Well yeah, that's why I knew even way back then to choose a cam with more exhaust duration. And I know we still choose cam lobes based on some of this. And I know there are other benefits besides flow to a modern cylinder head design. Combustion chamber being high on the list.
But how much potential loss... 15-20? 30-50?
I know... it depends. Just spit balling thoughts.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« on: September 12, 2026, 04:14:32 PM »
My mistake. I thought I saw an AFR FE head listing somewhere.

But OK, related question-
We have often dwelled on intake to exhaust flow ratio data. "Back in the day" it was often described as a common FE weakness and we often tried various ways to crutch them up...
Some modern builders have downplayed giving it too much attention.
But even more to the point, how much effect does putting these things in a Mustang with shock towers and headers with sharp turns at the port exit...
I guess my point is obvious. I feel there was very little benefit to the port work I did back in the late 70's when I was young and still breaking the chronic "more is better" habit. These 67 GT heads are pretty, but one of many minor mistakes.
This time around I want to research and get good value and a well matched balanced combination.
So good heads. How much money wasted choking with shock tower headers? The things look good with Dyno headers, but... maybe cheaper heads. Or maybe chop those towers out. Yikes. Very unusually solid S code car.

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FE Technical Forum / Let's talk cylinder heads
« on: September 12, 2026, 03:05:48 PM »
Discussion and shared experience please, not debate.

Current up to date info requested. I have followed the market over time, but may be relying on old info.
I know the AFR's are popular. What is the story on the TFS heads? Comparison? Availability?

Specifically, I am soon going to be seeking to update a "hot street/strip" style build, probably hyd. roller. Don't need anything ridiculous. The AFR's look pretty good to me. Need bang for the buck for a modest build.


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I guess I am a glutton for punishment.
I have installed/removed headers on my Mustang multiple times over the years. 3 different brands (I dont remember the names except the current Hooker Super Comps)
First was removal of the TRI-Y style that was on it when I bought it in the mid-70's. I then installed a set when I rebuilt the engine since it had been sitting in an impound lot for 9 years with the hood off and intake stolen.
I had transmission problems and had that thing together and apart too many times...
Got frustrated and decided the fix was to convert the C6 to a top loader. Well dont you know those headers were auto only. So along came the Hookers. Had those on and off a few times. Last time to address gasket issues.
I found the sharp edges of the weld bead at the tubes readily cut the gaskets and caused premature leaks. I "engineered" a fix and they stayed on for a long time.
I think I put in all the bolts in every time. GT heads.
I did the "custom bent" trick, and also ground the box end of my special wrench to thin it out a bit. The special sauce was before installation I located the tight spots where the wrench really wouldnt fit and very lightly dimpled the tube around the bolt area so the modified box end would fit on and off the bolt for final stage tightening. This helped a lot, but it's still a pain... (see my previous post on avoiding doing it in the car)

Edit- I just remembered the second set were from an obsolete brand Casler or similar. They were a sub-brand of a better known manufacturer.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: hp limit on A scratch block
« on: September 12, 2026, 12:22:11 PM »
I am following this as I similarly have a 428 block (C marking, I believe it is a 68' vintage) I would consider using for an upcoming upgrade/build if the cylinder wall thickness and main webbing mag test look good. When I previously tried to discuss the idea I felt a little blown off when basically told pretty much "nearly all those are cracked, I wouldnt bother."
Back in the 1970's when I was first messing with FE's the general consensus seemed to be that you were pushing your luck going beyond about 650 HP. But of course HP is really not the determinjng factor, and we were building very different combinations with very different parts back then.
I am under the impression keeping the RPM down and taking advantage of better modern heads should get you into the 550- 600 range with far less stress than how we tried to get there back then...

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For the record, the original image I referred to in my question was from Shelby American in the 1960's at their shop.
Thanks for the confirmation folks, it eases the dread having installed and removed the headers the hard way too many times.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Potentially dumb FE question number 2 for today.
« on: September 04, 2026, 04:08:09 AM »
Yeah Mike, I saw that before.
Very nice, but I'm a member of the "trying to break 500 up with an FE club" not 1000.  8)

Thanks for the reassurance Doug, that's what I was looking for.
My correspondence with Edelbrock was way back when they originally released their FE heads, and we discussed my combination, their dyno testing with what I would call "inappropriate" headers, (iirc they used a set of 2.25 dyno headers on a mild 390 to test the heads) and why they never offered a Victor Jr. appropriately proportioned to such builds, etc.
But more on that another time perhaps. Things have changed since then.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Potentially dumb FE question number 2 for today.
« on: September 03, 2026, 05:46:50 PM »
Yeah, I understand that.
But in a modern day of 3D scanning and manufacturing potential, I would think it might outweigh the cost of an adapter and Cleveland option.
Though a very limited potential consumer base aggravates the situation.

That big flat torque curve though...

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Thank you!
Dropping the drag link, possibly crossmember and sneaking around the steering box sounds for better than another round of dealing with all those header bolts again...
(Reason enough to postpone any progress for far too long)

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