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FE Technical Forum / Re: ebay aluminum intakes
« on: June 02, 2024, 04:45:33 AM »
Sometimes it is easier to use the search functionality of the forum versus scanning through multiple pages of posts.

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Depends on the horsepower per cubic inch, but a .030 over 428 block with a 4.25 stroker crank will be right at 462.  At .060 over just under 469 so we'll just call it a 7 cubic inch difference.  Assuming we have a build that produces 1.5 ponies per cube (2019 Blair Patrick FE build anyone?) naturally aspirated, 10.5 additional horsepower.  This is a super simplified comparison, but it gives a basic idea.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 1970 f250 390 build
« on: May 12, 2024, 12:39:28 AM »
Most importantly with the machine work, know for sure and without any doubts the shop knows what they are doing with a FE block.

In the past few years, with older machinists retiring from the shops in my area, I've had a few "I almost got what I asked for" and zero "I got exactly what I asked for" experiences with work done on a couple FE blocks.  That is even after making a best effort before hand to ensure the shop could do what I wanted.  Even though the answers I got were "yes", in hindsight, they were obviously blowing smoke to get some business.

"Yes we have torque plates for that block" (they didn't) and "Yes we are familiar with FE blocks" (rear cam bearing plug installed backwards) are just a couple examples.

The most frustrating was my experience with wanting to have the cylinder work done with a torque plate.  They told me they had a torque plate (as noted above and yes, I called before sending the block to them to verify), I sent along the ARP head studs and a printed list of exactly what I wanted done to the block.  When I say printed, I mean typed in a word processer with nice large easy to read font and printed on paper.  I figured that would alleviate any issues with not being able to read someone else's handwriting.  When I got the block back and the ARP head studs were still in their original packaging and untouched, I immediately called to inquire why they weren't used with the torque plate as per the instructions I sent.  "We don't have a torque plate for FE blocks" was the response.....   *sigh*

Anyway, I think you get the idea.   ;)

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 1970 f250 390 build
« on: May 10, 2024, 01:57:50 PM »
I'd do the bottom end first.  You can swap heads in the vehicle.  You could always cam for the heads you plan to switch to.

This answers a question I've been wondering about for awhile now regarding using a cam spec'd for a different set of heads that will be the "end game" for the engine.  Thanks for throwing that out there Brent.

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Just curious what your thoughts are on the 160-180 being too cool.

Reference the chart in this post and decide for yourself.  Seems to me that the decision would come down to "How will I be running this engine?".

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Need to quiet down our 484 FE...
« on: April 10, 2024, 01:27:46 AM »
That's why I love those old Hookers.
They are just so easy to get into and out of.
Love Hookers.

Too much information!!!   :o

I can't lie though.  I have a couple old Hookers in my car as well.  8)

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Need to quiet down our 484 FE...
« on: April 08, 2024, 12:55:54 PM »
If you know someone that has a TIG welder and they have a good understanding of what you need done, that might be an option.  Probably the most amount of work but it would definitely be a permanent solution.

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This thread might be of interest. HTH

Deja Vu?

I think someone might have hijacked the Mark fella's account.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 69 F250 Highboy 460 Engine Swap from FE
« on: April 01, 2024, 10:55:54 PM »
go ahead, burn away, but $1,000 for a motor and transmission, about another $1,500 for the rest, and get likely another 75K out of that used motor, have overdrive, and fuel injection.........

No desire to burn but you have got to tell me where you are getting an engine and transmission for $1k.  Around my parts, the motor alone is $1k+ and transmissions are apparently made of platinum thanks to salvage yard conglomerates.  :(

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 360 vs 390 rpm
« on: March 31, 2024, 12:20:50 AM »
In general, the main difference between those two engines is the stroke.  360 is 3.5" and 390 is 3.78".  Bore is the same on both at 4.05". There are of course differences between heads, camshafts, etc. used on different model years.  Difficult to answer without knowing more about each engine.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: oil gallery
« on: March 15, 2024, 04:18:18 AM »
Can you use use a 1/4 drive socket?

IIRC, no since the hole wasn't quite large enough for a 1/4 drive socket either.  I have one other block that hasn't been touched.  I would have to check the hole on it to be certain though.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: oil gallery
« on: March 13, 2024, 07:55:43 PM »
Holy!  I got the short end the stick for sure. The square end on my tap is 7/16 and the hole on the blocks were too small to fit that end of a 3/8 extension.   :o 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: oil gallery
« on: March 13, 2024, 09:20:48 AM »
They make extended length taps so that you don’t have to do that.  I have a nice sharp 6” 1/4NPT tap.

Understood on the extended length taps.  As the op had noted, they are more $$ and not as easy to obtain from a local store which led me to enlarging the hole since I had everything on hand to do that. I also liked the idea of being able to use a hex socket for removal and installation.  I'll run with changing the size of the hole is of no consequence since nobody has stated otherwise.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: oil gallery
« on: March 12, 2024, 07:24:44 PM »
Thanks gentlemen! That clears things up lol. Anyway, I guess I'm on a mission to do the screw in deal. I do have the Pioneer plugs and they are shorter and more flat on the end than the original plugs that were in the other holes. First thing,found my tap was too short,nobody in town ever heard of the extended reach variety. Ordered one online...they don't give them away. Update to follow...

I enlarged the hole on the front of the block to allow using a 12pt socket with an extension on the reamer and tap.  I did that after deciding that it wouldn't be detrimental to do so.  With that being said, if my understanding of enlarging the hole on the front of the block is incorrect and anyone knows of any issues it could cause, please let us know.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: oil gallery
« on: March 11, 2024, 07:11:07 PM »
You may not need to drill all the way threw if, you use a pipe reamer. It tapers the hole the proper length for the thread.

I'll second that on using a reamer.  While not necessary in most instances with the stock FE blocks, it does make the job easier when tapping the holes.  Just goes "smoother".  I also found (with the holes by the lifter bores that get plugged or piped) that a reamer lets you know immediately if you are dealing with an overly large hole to begin with.

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