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FE Technical Forum / Chicagoland / Western Burbs FE familiar shop
« on: June 08, 2026, 11:11:48 AM »
I am just finishing up reworking the drivetrain on this '62 Galaxie and I am about to return it to the owner.  The owner is looking for a recommendation for a shop in the Itasca / Addison / Lombard area to keep up on the maintenance and such with the car.  His previous mechanic is the reason I have spent the last 6 months working on this car, and needless to say is no longer an option.

Do any of you guys in the Chicagoland region have a recommendation?


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Just wondering if you have a part you want to do a one off say an fe intake could you take it to a 3d print company and have it copied, a company that does metal

What kind of price would one intake cost to get copied

The problem you run into with FE and MEL intakes is platform size.  Most 3D printing machines (especially metal) don't have a large enough platform to produce a FE intake.  I had a plastic model of my MEL intake made up first so I could check fit, flow, etc before committing to tooling up the mold.  Even plastic 3D printers (which are nearly as common as refrigerators these days), don't typically have a large enough platform to handle a Ford V8 intake.  It was actually cheaper ($1200 still) to CNC machine the MEL intake out of blocks of nylon and glue them together, then to 3D print it as one piece.  See image below of the plastic intake.

Cost is very subjective.  I am an engineer by trade, and have a Unigraphics (NX) license at home.  That alone costs me nearly $2K a year.  There are cheaper CAD programs out there, but there are significant advantages to a proper industry standard CAD program such as UG NX, Solidworks, PTC/Creo, etc. Most contract engineers will charge you $150 to $250 per hour to scan and generate FUNCTIONAL 3D models (raw casting, final machined part, and engineering drawings). I would expect 5 to 10 billable hours by time that is done. 

3D printed mold for a single intake is going to run you $1500, give or take a few hundred.  The first one is generally much more expensive as you will also have to pay for the mold design and flow modeling.  After that, it is just printer time. 

Jay pretty well layed out the foundry costs.

Then you have final machining.  Could be any where from a few hundred bucks to another $3K depending on time, fixtures needed, etc. 

Add in a few shipping charges and other misc expenses, and $10K is not unreasonable if you pay others to do all the work.






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jay for all us who dont know any of this can you show pictures of this tooling you are talking about?
dont know what the cope and drag are,and all other stuff?

Here are a few images of the MEL Intake 3D printed molds.  The first is one of the cores that form the internal negative space.  Air tract in this case.  There was another core for the water tract.  The 2nd is the cores mounted into the drag portion of the mold.  The Cope would be the top half that covers this up.  You can see some of the core supports and flow channels for the aluminum.  The final image is of the assembled mold, right after pouring.








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I had a couple of MEL to 6-71 blower intakes cast last year.  We used 3D printed sand molds.  I can't give you a price comparison to lost foam as I was unable to get a viable quote for that process.

I am happy with the surface finish.  See the Images of the raw casting and then machined casting below.  If someone was so enthused, it would polish up just fine. 

I made sure there was plenty of extra material (at least a 1/4" in most cases) on the surfaces that would be machined as I was not confident in the foundry's ability to hold dimensional tolerances, so I made sure there was plenty of material to clean up in case it came out of the mold a bit wonky or warped.  That did not happen, the dimensional stability was excellent, so credit to the mold designer.  The mold also flowed well, as I did not uncover any areas with porosity during machining.







Fit up on my crusty 430 core.




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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Ford ranger 2.3
« on: May 11, 2026, 01:18:06 PM »
Because engineers don't give a rat's a** about serviceability.  They design for manufacturability, and if a design change or "improvement" saves 30 seconds on the assembly line, but takes an extra hour in SRT's at the repair shop, they will take the 30 second savings EVERY SINGLE TIME.  30 seconds is worth an entire boat load of money to the OE over a production run of potentially 100,000's of units.  An extra hour at the dealership is worth literal pennies.  Worst case they have to pay out a little bit more in warranty labor for a couple of years.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Sound deadening recommendations wanted
« on: April 14, 2026, 11:42:41 AM »
I used FatMat XXX throughout my '62 Monterey Wagon.  Couldn't afford DynaMat for that much square footage.

CleanDan is spot on.  Wind Noise is definitely a very large part of the equation.


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That sucks Jay.  Sign of the times, I guess.  It is very difficult to find small batch custom manufacturers on this side of the planet these days. 

Perhaps check in with Dee Inc. in Crookston, MN.  Bit over 300 miles from the Twin Cities, but at least still with in the same state.  I did my Senior Design project with them some 20+ years ago at the end of my ME degree.  At the time Dee was doing alot of small batch stuff for the Ag manufacturers up and down the Red River Valley. 

https://www.deeinc.com/

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Studs or Bolts
« on: March 27, 2026, 11:24:52 AM »
On shock tower cars, bolts make it easy to pull the heads with the engine in the car should you need to do that down the road.

Or even on Pickups that have heater core boxes on one side and master cylinder and brake boosters on the other.  Studs normally make pulling the engine the default option.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Studs or Bolts
« on: March 25, 2026, 01:02:48 PM »
I like studs because the clamp load produced during torquing is more consistent from fastener to fastener if the procedure is followed correctly.  That doesn't mean the bolts won't work in your application, just that the old Test Engineer in me tries to optimize as much as possible.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Update on Calliope Engine Project
« on: March 24, 2026, 02:59:09 PM »
Too Cool!

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Unknown Heads
« on: March 24, 2026, 02:54:50 PM »
The chambers are 69 cc, so for all intents and purposes, I will consider them to be from PW, going forward.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Unknown Heads
« on: March 16, 2026, 01:29:33 PM »
Interesting.  Those PW heads sure seem to be a close match.  I might have to put a little brake fluid on the paint and see if there is a logo beneath...

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FE Technical Forum / Unknown Heads
« on: March 12, 2026, 01:55:51 PM »
I am going through this engine for a customer, and it came to me with a set of aluminum heads of unknown origin.  I am hoping some of you guys can help identify them.  There are no casting marks, and only some hand stamped numbers on each end.  There are geometric features that resemble Edelbrock heads, but no other discerning features.  I am sure they are Chinesium copies, but any help with a brand or manufacturer would be appreciated.












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FE Technical Forum / Re: 1974 Ford 427ci Pre-Chamber Experimental V8
« on: February 19, 2026, 12:53:12 PM »
I would love to see some engineering drawings or section cuts of the cylinder heads.  "Pre-Chamber" makes me think of IDI diesels and the Riccardo style combustion chamber, which obviously was fairly effective and millions were built.  I am not sure if this engine uses a similar setup, or something completely different.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Cam Grind Suggestions
« on: January 22, 2026, 12:51:40 PM »
For a street driven cruiser, and to capture that late 60's feel, you may just want to stay with a stockish cam profile.  Something that came in the 428CJ (which would be a bit rowdier in a 390), or an early 60's 390HP solid lifter cam, or a faithful reproduction there of.  Flat tappets are getting hard to come by these days as everything is transitioning over to rollers.  Talk to Brent Lykins about having one custom ground for your application. 

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