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FE Technical Forum / Re: Rotating assembly shuddering.
« on: January 08, 2015, 12:51:22 PM »
You guys are the best......thanks, I won't worry about it.   
(Part of it might have been the fact that I was using a bar and pointer type torque-wrench to turn it over just because it was handy)



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FE Technical Forum / Rotating assembly shuddering.
« on: January 07, 2015, 10:41:47 PM »
I just installed a new Scat Crank and Scat rods in a block that had been align-honed by a very good shop, using Federal Mogul 125M bearings and Clevite assembly lube.  The clearances were mic'ed at .0020 for all the rods and .0024 for all the mains.

With the pistons and new rings in oiled cylinders.....the assembly "shudders" when turned VERY, VERY slowly by the damper bolt.  If turned a bit faster it smooths right out.
I haven't built enough engines to be familiar with the "shuddering".  Is this something to be concerned about?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Hello and Oil Level
« on: December 09, 2014, 07:11:08 PM »
No, not flogging it, Gene....after reading all the remarks, as you say, from the "peanut gallery" over there I discounted most of those replies and asked the question here. 
Had I know about this board, I never would have brought it up over there.   I'll know better next time.

Thanks for your help, I do appreciate it.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Hello and Oil Level
« on: December 09, 2014, 02:29:19 PM »
Thanks for the link Drew,....I had watched a few of Jays dyno vids in the past but failed to see that particular one.

I've decided to use one of the Milodon 7 qt pans and matching p/u.  Out of the box and on the bench, I'll see where 7 qts fills it to and make note of it,....then add the additional quart that Ford recommended, and make a note of it's level also.
Then I'll be able to calculate the distance between the crank counter-weights and the two oil levels. (just for curiosity's sake if nothing else)
Then I'll remove those 3 quarts that Jay said are flying around the engine in order to see where that level is in relation to the p/u screen.

 ::)  I guess I should add the fact that there's a reason for the silly questions,.....I just last month ruined a brand new engine on account of an oil related issue, so I'm a little gun-shy with this new one.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Hello and Oil Level
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:22:29 AM »
Thanks fella's,.....I appreciate the help.

Joe, I've got a stock dipstick and tube and I'll do just that, I'll get the distance from the dipstick full mark to the bottom of the deck skirt, that'll give me an idea.  I've got a copy of that memo from Ford on the extra quart of oil, (the following year I believe Ford made the adjustment on a new dipstick).  As a matter of fact it's that very memo that caused me to question the surface level of the oil in the engine at rest.  If Ford could raise the level of the oil that easily, it can't be that critical in relation to the crank counterweights......and what I just learned from Jay, (thanks for your help, Jay), it's not the surface at rest l need to be concerned about,....it's the amount of oil covering the pickup at high rpms.

Exactly what I needed to know.

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FE Technical Forum / Hello and Oil Level
« on: December 08, 2014, 11:19:56 PM »
Having found your forum by searching for an answer to the following question this afternoon, and reading threads for hours, I couldn't wait to join!  But I didn't want to just jump on board and blurt out a question without at least a brief introduction.  :)

My name's Tommy, and I'm fairly new to FE's, building my second 428 now.  Got started by doing a total and complete restoration on a '63 1/2 Galaxie and deciding to exchange the original 352/Cruise-O-Matic with a 428/C-6.

Being sorta familiar with stock FE oil pans, their baffles and dip-sticks, I have a very "basic" question:

If you were to build a custom pan and use an aftermarket dip-stick, at rest, where should the surface of the oil level in the pan be?   About how far below the crankshaft counter-weights?

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