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FE Technical Forum / Re: 1962 vs. 1966 390 FE
« on: December 05, 2014, 05:50:58 AM »
Thanks for the great reply!!

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FE Technical Forum / 1962 vs. 1966 390 FE
« on: December 04, 2014, 09:59:59 PM »
Hi All!
Without going into all the gory details, it appears that my original 1966 390 FE block (from a Galaxie) has been ruined by poor machine shop work.  I have access to a 1962 390 FE block (from a Thunderbird)....and I was wondering if there are any major differences between a block from a 1966 390 and a 1962 390.  Thanks!

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Hydraulic Roller Lifter
« on: October 08, 2014, 08:47:41 PM »
Thanks Capt.  I'll check them out!

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FE Technical Forum / Hydraulic Roller Lifter
« on: October 08, 2014, 03:13:22 PM »
Hey All.....

Does anyone know if it's possible to get FE specific hydraulic roller lifters?  I know you can get the 429-460 and FE "dual purpose" hydrualic roller lifters, but I cant find a FE specific hydraulic roller lifter.  I've read where there are differences between the 429-460 specific and FE specific OE hydraulic lifters, and it's possible to run into trouble using the "dual purpose" lifters in the FE.  Thanks!

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Pressure and Volume
« on: October 03, 2014, 09:38:05 PM »
I'll see if I can get a pic of the lifters...not sure who makes them.  We talked to a tech at Erson today.  He said to try up to 1 1/2 turns and see if that helps.  We'll try that next week and I'll report back.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Pressure and Volume
« on: October 03, 2014, 02:05:39 PM »
Joe-JDC....thanks for the suggestion.  I'll run that by the builder!

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Pressure and Volume
« on: October 03, 2014, 02:02:06 PM »
Not sure of the spring pressure.  I'd have to find that out from the builder.  We talked about it and he said it wasn't excessive.  I do know he checked the spring pressures on his second time through the motor to make sure they are actually what they are supposed to be, and he said they are.  We have gone as far as a full turn as an experiment and no change.  Dead quiet when she's cold, and horrible once the oil pressure drops to about 40-45.  The builder and his contact at Erson designed this second cam to try to solve the problem.  It's very mild.  There seems to be plenty of oil up top....but to be honest, I can't say if I noticed a change in the amount before and after the clatter starts.  We are going to run it again either this afternoon or Monday.  I'll look for that.  I feel pretty confident the oil pressure reading we are seeing is accurate...it's been on 2 different run stands and a dyno and had several different pressure transmitters....and all the different readings are within a pound or two of each other.  This is my first post and it's awesome to hear the ideas.  We're all stumped, so hopefully with some help we can get this thing figured out!

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Pressure and Volume
« on: October 03, 2014, 11:49:58 AM »
Correct....it is a hydraulic roller.  Pre-load is 5/8 turn....original cast iron heads.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Pressure and Volume
« on: October 03, 2014, 10:36:58 AM »
I should have provided more detail the first time.  Sorry about that....new to the forum thing.  The engine was totally rebuilt by a professional FE builder/restorer with 35+ years at it.  The block was completely worked over at the machine shop, and the oil passages were supposedly checked, cleaned, and enlarged to accommodate the larger oil pan and high volume oil pump.  The pressures are at idle....70-75 cold and around 40 hot.  It currently has an Erson cam and lifters, and T&D rockers.  An important thing I forgot to mention....on start up and until the oil pressure reaches about 50-55 psi, the engine is dead quiet.  She sounds like a fine sewing machine.  Around 50-55 psi, the annoying clatter starts....and once we're down around 40-45 psi, everyone starts shaking their heads and running for cover.  If it sounded hot like it does cold, I'd be thrilled. 

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FE Technical Forum / Pressure and Volume
« on: October 03, 2014, 08:42:20 AM »








Hi All!

Just wondering if anyone knows if it's possible to get a normal pressure reading from an oil pump but not have an adequate volume output from it.  It's really a long story, but in a nutshell, we are rebuilding a 1966 390 FE.  We are now on our second set of roller rockers, roller lifters, and a roller cam.  No matter what we do, the valve train is still terribly noisy.  We also have run the motor with a cut open valve cover to see what's going on in there....and we noticed something very interesting.  The second we shut off the motor, we can visually see the pushrods on the open valves start moving.  We assume this means the lifters are collapsing.  Oil pressure is great...70-75 psi cold and around 40 psi hot.  We are using a Melling high volume oil pump.  I figured it's along shot, but I was wondering if anyone thought it was possible that the pump, although indicating good pressure, wasn't sending the volume of oil where it needs to go.  Thanks!

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