Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - mike714

Pages: [1]
1
FE Technical Forum / Re: Will this work for warmed up cj
« on: January 13, 2015, 10:33:43 AM »
I'm waiting on my main studs to ge here when I get them going to hone the mains then measure the deck and cc the heads I'm pretty sure they have been cut . I'm trying to keep the motor under 10:1 I had some problems with the last 10:5 motor I ran on pump gas (inconsistent fuel from pump) . On my mercury racing outboard motors you can not have ethanol fuel in them so I use to have to test the fuel all the time . Even with stations that made the effort to supply ethanol free for us ,there suppliers would mess it up by putting non ethanol 91 in tank that previously had lower grade ethanol fuel in it ,and octane levels were all over the place and I had to usually mix 110 with pump gas to get 91 to 95 ethanol free. That is why I'm being cautious with my compression. I know what comes out of the pump. I'm not even going to mention water in fuel you you get from a gas station. If you are curious about your gas station go to any marine supplier and get a test kit bass pro use to have them too you will be surprised at what you find.

2
FE Technical Forum / Re: Will this work for warmed up cj
« on: January 11, 2015, 01:47:47 PM »
What should I cut the deck to stay just under 10 :1

3
FE Technical Forum / Re: Will this work for warmed up cj
« on: January 11, 2015, 12:28:51 PM »
Diamond has a piston that I think will work comp dis 1.675 dish - 14 bore at 25 over and Ross has one comp dis 1.675 dish -17 the probe has comp dis 1.665 dish -16.9 bore at 30 over. If I use the diamond or Ross i shouldn't have to cut the block much correct ? But I think I'm going to have to use the Ross I don't think the block will clean up at 25.

4
FE Technical Forum / Re: Will this work for warmed up cj
« on: January 10, 2015, 12:18:53 PM »
Yea I think I'm going to call berry about Pistons and may just let him do the heads. After I thought about it I would rather spend a little more on the piston and not cut my block . I have never used the probe and a little nervous about them , it's not that they are a bad piston just haven't seen them used. On his web site he has diamond for 700 to 800 or a mahal ,I have use them in the past and are good piston will consider them if I have the cash. Normally I wouldn't be to concerned on cost but I just spent 400 on torque boxes 500 on cowl 1000 on front suspension so it's getting a little tight .My rockers have lock nuts on the adjusters.
Thanks

5
FE Technical Forum / Re: Will this work for warmed up cj
« on: January 10, 2015, 10:44:46 AM »
Thanks, I was looking at the probe they are about 200 more than my cost on the srp but I will go to them instead, a friend of mine is doing the machine work he has a cutter that cuts the seat and bowl . I have no problem with the solid cam if you guys think it's the best option , will that cam build power up to about 5800 ? As for the cometic gasket I like them on my race motor but for street the felpro work better if I go to the probe I will try to use them instead that will off set the piston cost any way.you are correct about the pump it will cause problems with to much pressure but I thought with the oiling issues on the fe it my help, that is why I ran it by you guys before I bought it .

6
FE Technical Forum / Re: Will this work for warmed up cj
« on: January 10, 2015, 08:00:45 AM »
Thanks for the reply, I wanted to run a roller but ,I ran into some problems while doing the sheet metal that cost more than expected. The upper and lower cowl was bad . I'm going to make some long trips with the car and don't want to be adjusting valves in a parking lot . If it was a roller I would use solid because they don't need adjusting as much as a flat cam and what you are actually adjusting is ware.
If I use the piston I have listed what do you think the compression would be?
How do the cometic gaskets hold up on a fe ? The reason I ask is I had a issue on a street motor with cometic but I think it was because it was iron block with aluminum head .

7
FE Technical Forum / Will this work for warmed up cj
« on: January 09, 2015, 09:38:43 PM »
I'm getting ready to order parts for my motor and just wanted to run it by you guys first to make sure I'm not getting something that won't work.
The block is standard cj , needs decking , bore , oiling mods
Stock cj heads needs guides ,valves ,springs has seat in already , light clean up of ports and bowls
1 ub crank turned 20/20
Standard cj rods need re sizing
I'm planning on using
Rpm intake
Srp pistons -22 relives +25 bore p#271152
Comp 280h cam kit with springs
Arp main studs
Arp rod bolts
Arp head bolts
Arp oil pump stup
Precision pumps +25 press and volume
Canton t pan
Rebuild factory adjustable rockers with billet end stand and supports with hd shafts
Cosmetic head gaskets
Fpa headers
I'm running a c6 so will probably have  loosen the converter up to run that cam but don't want to go much past 2000
I don't know why gear is in the car yet , I plan on pulling it in a few weeks. It has a locker in it and was raced so probably has a gear in it.
I want to keep the compression down to run on pump gas ,that is the reason for the -22 Pistons . I can play with the gasket thickness if needed to get compression where I need it
I'm going to cc a chamber on each head to verify size before I order piston  .
The rotating assembly will be balanced .
Will this set up work or do I need to rethink it?
Input would be appreciated thanks



8
FE Technical Forum / Re: help with 428 cj for torino talladega
« on: July 22, 2014, 07:22:15 PM »
It is not the original motor. Normally I would do something like that but I'm trying to not get carried away like I did with the last car I built .it started of a restomod and ended up a drag car with a motor that wasn't streetable. But if someone wants to build something like that I have a extra talladega reproduction front clip all you need is a torino body the 600 hp motor and it's on.

9
FE Technical Forum / Re: help with 428 cj for torino talladega
« on: July 21, 2014, 08:56:48 PM »
My car is t he one on  thenumn regrestry under talladega dragster if you click on it there are pictures of the car when it was raced. It looks the same today well before I started cutting the rust out. I need to order the pistons srp has -5 cc then it jumps to -22 and - 26 can i run the -5 cc or do I need to run the - 22 or 26? The crank is 1 ub and had the weight in the center is that correct the flywheel has weight but the balancer didn't is that correct The rod c7ae-b the balancer Looks like c4ae

10
FE Technical Forum / Re: help with 428 cj for torino talladega
« on: July 21, 2014, 08:36:01 PM »
Thanks  guys, the reason I came to this forum is every body seams to know what they are talking about. I want to drive it on the street and some weekend racing on pump gas. The only reason I bought this car is when I was a kid my dad had 428 scj cougar and I was trying to find one when I found this car. He would sit me on the radiator support while he was working on it and that was a lot. He blew the motor 6 or 7 times but they didn't have the technology we have today and they were new and very few people knew how to work on them. That is why I'm trying to make sure I get it wright. If I don't get to carried away with it. I just didn't know if the fe had a problem with roller cam and lifters after he said that. I have built my share of motors just not fe . normally I use the +25 volume and pressure 8 or 9 quart oil pan balanced Bottom, roller cam and rockers ,forged pistons aluminum intake and heads.  Than for the help

11
FE Technical Forum / Re: help with 428 cj for torino talladega
« on: July 21, 2014, 07:31:50 PM »
It was raced by keats ford in trenton nj. The part numbers for the heads are correct n head. I don't mind taking some heat for not putting it back stock . But I was thinking the same thing if you can't see it who cares. The blue thunder intake looks the same just no casting numbers if I paint it don't think the average person can tell. The only reason I asked the question is I know just enough about fe engines to be dangerous and one of the guy's on the regrestry said not to use t pan or roller rockers because he use to race 428 and it was a bad idea, the strange thing is he the one that sells a lot of the restoration parts. You think he might be wanting to sell some parts?

12
FE Technical Forum / help with 428 cj for torino talladega
« on: July 21, 2014, 06:34:34 PM »
I'm Restoring a 69 Talladega with 428cj . The problem i have is that all of the guy's on the reg restry know one thing put it back stock and if you don't it's a sin well I'm a sinner and I don't do stock. Most of the guys that have these cars don't drive them because they are so rare. I'm going to drive mine .The car was raced by a dealer and had headers and slapper bars on it when I got it and when I took the motor apart it had thin mls head gaskets larger than stock valves adjustable rockers but it is standard bore  the writing in the lifter valley from assembly was still there and the ford sticker was still on the flywheel it had not been ran very much. My friend thinks the heads are the Canadian ones.  So what I want to do is build the motor in a way that at a glance you can't tell what I have done. I know some things you can't hide like headers . Here is what I came up with. I'm going to use a blue printed oil pump +25% volume and pressure some sort of t pan, arp main studs and rod bolts srp or Je pistons I haven't made up mind if I'm going to internally balance or leave it external but will be balanced. Stock heads blue thunder intake and thinking of roller rockers with flat cam haven't made the choice on that some advice would help there. I'm going to try to keep the compression around stock 10.6 to 11 or do I need to be in the 9 range ? Will this work?

Pages: [1]