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I've broke quite a few of those dove rockers too.  I'm switching to t&d for next year

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FE Technical Forum / Re: EMC report
« on: October 02, 2019, 05:58:48 PM »
Congratulations Blair!  Excellent work!

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FE Technical Forum / Re: FE DOMINANCE
« on: September 04, 2019, 04:56:29 PM »
All I can say is that is more than extremely impressive.  Thats the definition of a bad ass hot rod.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Edelbrock with t&d, new cam choice
« on: August 20, 2019, 06:19:43 AM »
Thanks everyone.  The heads were done a few years ago and ran with the old cam.  I should have been more clear on that, sorry. 
I will get in touch with the guys here and get a cam, lifters, and rockers at the least. 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Edelbrock with t&d, new cam choice
« on: August 19, 2019, 06:23:07 PM »
I was asked a lot of questions by both companies, but neither asked the exhaust flow, and neither told me the advertised duration.  Granted both of these were online forms I filled out, I'm sure if I call I can get the advertised duration, and maybe they would ask for the exhaust flow? 

I guess I have some more thinking to do.  I really enjoy building these motors, but cam design is not my best area. 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Edelbrock with t&d, new cam choice
« on: August 19, 2019, 04:58:25 PM »
I don't have the exhaust numbers in front of me, I'd have to do some digging.  I don't remember getting them from Blair, but maybe I did.

Anyway, bullet got back to me today.  They recommend close to the same as lunati did.  The one they say is .272/.280 @ .050, .748/.742 lift.  LSA 108, degreed at 104 for IC.

Thanks for your help Brent.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Edelbrock with t&d, new cam choice
« on: August 19, 2019, 09:32:48 AM »
I'm looking for 6800-7000 shift, same through the traps.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Edelbrock with t&d, new cam choice
« on: August 19, 2019, 06:05:13 AM »
These numbers are on Blair's flow bench.

.100 91
.200 167
.300 224
.400 273
.500 297
.600 312
.700 312
.800 312

For what it's worth the guy who originally ported them, his flow bench showed 330 @ .700 before Blair got them and did his valve job.  Blair's only showed 305 @ .700 before.  Difference in benches, or operators, or combination of both.  After his valve job the lower lift numbers improved a lot more, over 20 cfm @ .400-.600

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FE Technical Forum / Edelbrock with t&d, new cam choice
« on: August 18, 2019, 06:04:50 PM »
Been a long time since I've been here. I'm putting my 462 back together this winter. It's a 12:1 Edelbrock head with Blair Patrick valve job, fully ported. 1100 dominator on a Victor. Cross bolted 428 block, .030 over with a steel crank and Manley h beams. 3000 lb Fairlane with a power glide, 5000 coan converter. Now I run an older comp solid roller, close to 20 years old. .686 .644 lift, .266 .276 @ .050 duration. I'm thinking I would get a new cam as I'm putting a set of t&d rockers on so I need new push rods anyway, might as well update the whole valve train. I talked with lunati, they are talking a .735 lift intake and exhaust, .268 .274 duration @ .050 on a 108 or 110. I filled out a form on bullet website but no response

Couple questions. What rocker is the correct one for the t&d race rockers for the Edelbrock? Another, what do you think of the cam suggestion from lunati? Also, I suppose I just block the head oil passage to the rockers as the t&d oil through to the pushrods?

4.30 gears, 29x11 tires. Has a trans brake, but I foot brake at about 2500. 1/4 mile drag only car. Best pass with the old cam and 4.11s was 10.03 and it weighed 150 lbs more then. I've put a new a arm front suspension on since then and set the motor back 9 1/2 inches. That motor was 6500 shift and through the lights, looking for 6800-7000 max. The old motor was 667 hp, 630 tq.

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That cost is much better, but I agree with what was said before, seems like you'd be really stretching to make a dime.  IF I could someday have some more play money for a street car instead of just race cars, I'd think more about it.  My one fairlane is a tube chassis so fitment is not an issue, and I have my 514 for sale on racing junk now that is in it.  The plan for that car is to put it back on the street with the 427 block I have.  If that 514 sells there will be an aluminum 427 in one of my other fairlanes next racing season.  If it doesn't it will be a 390 again.  The last one lasted 3 years before the block broke, thankfully no blowup, found on disassembly.  Right around 600hp.  I didn't run that car this year.  I like the 385 series motor, but I grew up around and love my FE's, time to get rid of that motor.

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The Road to Drag Week 2014 / Re: 577 SOHC Post Mortem
« on: September 17, 2014, 06:21:39 PM »
Sorry that happened Jay, but I think you were pushing the limits of those rods maybe a little too far too many times.  I'm not trying to talk bad about what anyone else has said, but that is my opinion.  As was mentioned before, you're not far from the "limits" of those rods when they were new.  5 years later, many hard runs, pretty heavy piston, chit happens I'm afraid.  Be nice if crower would do a little stronger rod for you.  I'm not as much of an oliver fan as I used to be either, so don't know if I'd go that way.

Good luck Jay.  This is all my opinion of course.   ;)

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Why aren't more people building SOHCs?
« on: September 17, 2014, 06:09:47 PM »
I voted because it won't fit in the shock tower cars, but the cost is actually probably more of a reason..

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Anyone running a motor plate?
« on: November 04, 2013, 06:33:38 AM »
I ran a homemade one in my fairlane with just the water pump holes for the front mount.  I also had a mid plate in it.  Works well.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: When to shift
« on: August 29, 2013, 04:52:17 PM »
If you have a cam rated to 5k and proper valve springs for it, it should be fine at 4800.    I'm kinda new here so don't know what heads you have, I'm guessing stock?   If you're curious to see if it is loosing power at that level, shift it at 44-4500 a pass or two and see how the early numbers compare. 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 427 dry sump and power question
« on: August 26, 2013, 05:56:42 PM »
Brent, I've got the dry sump setup off of my 514.  I'm selling that motor, but keeping the dry sump.   I think all I need to do is some bracket modifying and a pan purchase.  Probably have to make a few new lines, we'll see.  I have no accessories to run, water pump has an electric motor, no alternator.  I just run a belt for the pump on a crank pulley.

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