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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Auction this weekend near me
« on: September 02, 2020, 04:21:21 PM »
Yes, but it is those tornadoes that help to keep midwest towns clean.  Helps to have God's Vacuum cleaner come through every few decades and force a good cleanup / rebuild.  My little town up in the Northwest corner of Minn-e-sota is alot nicer after getting flooded in '96 and again in '97.  Forced the powers that be to make some tough decisions that ended up with a much stronger and more vibrant community in the long run.  Yeah, those two Aprils sucked though.

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Member Projects / Re: Minnesota registration question 66 LTD
« on: August 07, 2020, 01:24:10 PM »
I have never run across an office that wouldn't do collector plates.  Of course, I have never lived in the Metro, only out-state Minny, where there is typically only one office per county (normally inside the courthouse).  What county are you in?

If it is Scott, try the Deputy Registrar and License Agent office in Prior Lake, right off 13.  You can always call before showing up too.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Lema outlawed
« on: August 05, 2020, 11:51:26 AM »
Not that any one was running them, but the rule also outlawed Cadillac 472 / 500 ci V8's and Packard 352 / 374 ci V8's, both of which had 5.000" bore spacing. 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: vintage holman moody ford fe heads?
« on: July 23, 2020, 12:55:32 PM »
Be interesting to get them on a flow bench.  Neat Find!

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FE Technical Forum / Re: AOD transmission behind a FE
« on: June 30, 2020, 12:27:05 PM »
FrozenMerc,

Do you recall the part number for the QuickTime bell you utilized, RM-9057 or RM-9058?

RM-9057.  I have only ever played with the older, non-electronic AOD's.


  I emailed Broader just a couple weeks ago about an AOD for my F100. Their response was that they don't build the AOD anymore, rather the 4R70W. Not sure why as an explanation wasn't given.

I can't speak for Broader, but I have had a few transmission shops tell me that good rebuildable AOD cores are getting quite hard to find.  This may have something to do with it.

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Much easier to go get it yourself.  I pulled a '59 Mercury M100 Panel truck out of Winnipeg a couple of summers ago.  I called up to the border crossing (1-29 - Pembina, ND).  They were very helpful in telling me what paper work I needed to fill out.  I had all the paper work with me when I showed up, it was easy in / easy out.  In fact, they never even opened the trailer to look at the truck.  I could have had a half a ton of Bolivian marching powder in there and no one was the wiser.  That said, it is much easier to import race cars and vintage cars than it is "modern" cars.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: AOD transmission behind a FE
« on: June 29, 2020, 12:49:32 PM »
I have done it on a couple of vehicles.  Both were street only, mileage eating cruisers. No strip action, whatsoever.

1962 Mercury Monterey Wagon.  352 (325 Hp, 375 ft-lbs).  Broader built the trans, used their adaptor to bolt the Cruis-O bellhousing to the AOD's pump after removing the AOD's stock bellhousing.  Removed the AOD's lock up feature and went to a C6 style 2 piece input shaft rather than the AOD's 3 piece.  This required a custom torque convertor and we were able to get the stall to come in at around 1800 rpms with the 3.6:1 rear axle ratio.  Note, the Cruis-O's relatively small housing limits the torque converter size to 11" or less.  It is difficult to get small convertors to run low stall speeds, but with the relatively small (352) motor, it worked out well in this application.  The car cruises happily in OD all day, running about 2200 rpm at 75 mph.

1976 F-250.  390 (370 Hp, 450 ft-lbs).  I built the trans this time, again removed the lock-up feature, also added a TCI constant-pressure valve body.  I ordered a Quicktime AOD-FE bellhousing after the Holley tech told me that the Quicktime bell would support the stock 12" convertor and I knew I would have a harder time getting a smaller 11" convertor to have a low enough stall with the more powerful 390 and heavier weight of the F-250 over the Merc.  NOTE:  The Quicktime Bell will NOT support a 12" convertor, despite what Holly says.  I had Broader build a 11" convertor, but after multiple attempts, we could not get the stall low enough to have good street manners.  It would overheat the fluid, especially towing or at interstate speeds and eventually I pulled it and put a C6 back in. 

If I were to do the F-250 again, I would have used the Bendsten's adaptor plate and just dealt with the trans moving back 1.5".  This would have at least allowed me to run a larger convertor and to hopefully get the stall down to an acceptable speed.  I still think eliminating the lock-out and going with the 2 piece input shaft is a good idea when dealing with a high torque FE.  This is the AOD's main weakpoint, but it does require a custom torque convertor.  I have a friend running the Bendsten's Adaptor in his '64 Marauder, with a very healthy 500 hp 428.  It required some floor and firewall massaging, but other wise works well.

Broader AOD with Cruis-O bell.



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FE Technical Forum / Re: Similar builds
« on: June 15, 2020, 01:04:22 PM »
All other things being equal (and they never are), a 428 and a 427 will make the same power, just at different RPM's.  The 428 will make the power at a lower RPM then the 427.  The torque will be very similar, but again, the 428 will make torque sooner in the RPM range, giving the perception of being a torque monster.


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Besides a handful of FE's, I have built a few flatheads, a couple of Windsors, a rather fun 300 Six, a 325 ci Dodge Hemi, a 266 IH V8 (nearly as expensive as a Flathead for the same amount of power), and am responsible for keeping an all original (un-opened) Packard 327 Straight 8 in proper running order. 

I am currently playing with forced induction on a MEL and a 6.9 IDI.  I also have a 332 Lincoln Y out of a '60 C-600 that I would like to do something with, not sure what yet, but it is stewing in the back of my mind. 

I have an odd itch to build a gnarly 392 IH just to do something different.  Did someone say torque-rise? 






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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: $825.00 engine stand?
« on: May 20, 2020, 12:21:47 PM »
If they are in business and selling them for a profit, good for them.  The last three engines I have played with are a 430 MEL (the lightest of the bunch at 850 lbs.), 327 Packard Straight 8 (about 950 lbs), and a 6.9 IDI (about 1100 lbs).  No one in their right mind would put any of those engines on a $50 Harbor Fright Chinesium special. 

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It's not that the exhaust is any quieter than any similar displacement gas motor with straight pipes.  It's that the injection pumps on IDI's are so damn loud that the pump masks the exhaust note.... :P

It is always fun to see the reaction of someone driving past me with their windows down when I am out and about in my 6.9 powered '85 F-350.  That IP at full song will just about make them jump out of their seat.

On a more serious note, the rest of what you are noticing may be related to the cam spec.  Someone correct me if I am wrong, but the cams in these engines have a narrow lobe separation angle (103 deg) and very little overlap, which would help to keep the noise level down.

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Member Projects / Re: 517 MEL
« on: April 17, 2020, 12:30:20 PM »
Purrrtttyyyy!

Can't wait to see what that makes on the pump.

Keep up the good work, Royce!

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Member Projects / Re: Project Junky Junk
« on: March 30, 2020, 12:26:18 PM »
Paint the heads and intake.  If you want to get fancy, fill in or grind off any identifying or offending brand names.  An untrained eye won't be able to tell the difference between stock and not stock. 

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Rod Length Discussion - Engine Masters
« on: March 05, 2020, 01:40:09 PM »
So when does a piston become too short for you guys?  1"?  Less?

Forget ring support rails and rod/stroke ratios for a minute.  Is a 1" piston as stable and seal as well as a 1.5" tall piston?

This is from the very extreme end of things - Early 2000's Cosworth Formula 1 piston and con-rod.  3.0 L V10's turning 20,000+ RPM with a life span measured in dozens of minutes.

Rod Lengths were generally around 100 mm (4 in) on strokes of about 40 mm (1 9/16")  making for approx a 2.5:1 rod/stroke ratio.


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FE Technical Forum / Re: FE Pistons & Rods, For Other Engines ?
« on: February 10, 2020, 02:05:00 PM »
What are the pistons?  Pretty common to use 390 pistons in 300 sixes as a way to bump compression.  The rods may work in a 240, but are much too long for the 300.

https://performanceparts.ford.com/download/pdfs/EngineDimensions.pdf

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