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FE Technical Forum / Re: FE rod options?
« on: May 09, 2018, 05:08:19 PM »
Hey Ricky,

 This is "32bantam" I'm uncertain how I'm going to finish the build but I'm having a set of Hiriser heads done up. I was originally thinking big inch but I have some choices here that a nice set of rods would complete.
 

 

   


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FE Technical Forum / Re: FE rod options?
« on: May 08, 2018, 12:00:47 AM »
My apologies to the OP and Jay for turning this thread into a s#*tshow. I'm done with it.
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  Hey Doug,

  No worries here but thanks for the consideration. I deleted the thread at least once before deciding to go ahead and ask... it went as expected. lol  So far no responses to my emails and calls but I'm not in any huge rush.

 Someone along the way asked how much original stuff was on my engine in an attempt to prove a point. My builds differ from the popular stand points, with a full body passenger car my interest is an all original date matched build hiding as much punch as possible. If you're familiar with the extremes taken in pure stock racing with factory castings that's pretty much what we like in street/strip cars just without any class rules. My intent is an iron Hiriser built in this manor to run with some similar Hemi/409 cars around.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: FE rod options?
« on: May 06, 2018, 08:31:11 AM »
 Hey Brent,

  It's not my intention to argue, insult any company or scare off potential customers for anyone but blems happen and people should be aware rotten apples are out there. Even top end companies and million dollar cnc gubment projects have an "oh darn" moment. The question is if it gets out the door that way and if so how the problem is handled.

  In regards to the rods all this comes down to is that I have a preference I'm willing to pay for. I doubt I'm going to dig up much but I'm glad to post the outcome.

Thanks for the posts guys, Dan

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FE Technical Forum / Re: FE rod options?
« on: May 06, 2018, 01:21:09 AM »
  Brent,
 
  To clarify Scat quality varies and seems to have much more issues than in the past so in my eyes it very much is the case. For a time I worked at a shop that was a Scat dealer (RAM in Clinton Ohio) and another friend is the head machinist at the local VW shop(LA products in Akron) which is also a Scat dealer so I still see issues here and there. Most of the time he points them out as I rib him for using Empi knock off parts he says he has found to have less (obvious) issues. Nothing is perfect but for my money I have long learned to buy the best I can afford at the time. Generally Scat is my go to and I won't even consider anything below them but I have gotten bad parts.  Summit is also right up the road and I'm probably there once a week at least where it's not uncommon at all to find a blem crank or set of rods on the discount table.

My billet 3.4 SBF Scat crank came in the old shop with an undrilled/unfinished flange and the wrong size key way in the wrong spot. More recently my purchase of a forged 4.25 FE Scat crank I was assured was the best off the shelf crank available resulted in a flaking slag covered piece neither Scat nor the vendor who couldn't be reached saw fit to address which had it to be shotpeened and rebalanced. The 4.25 cast crank another FE guy here got in his "kit" is riddled with porosity. In that I'm referring to every unmachined area has 3/16" air pockets that hopefully are limited to just the surface. You certainly don't see display pieces that look like that and in my case it is more than enough to look to other suppliers when possible. So yes any part can be flawed at any cost/level but with this in mind I'm not interested in buying another Scat FE crank or rods no matter how much power they can handle etc. I'm looking for nicer parts for this.

  Scott,
  I asked a simple question about availability of a nice US made set of rods. I'm not interested in dragging this into global economy politics. No matter how nice Molnar rods are in your opinion I don't want to spend my money on them. I have an old American car with an old American engine if for no other reason I consider it a touch cooler not to use China stuff to build it with.

 



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FE Technical Forum / Re: FE rod options?
« on: May 05, 2018, 06:46:30 PM »
Scott, I've seen the rods and cranks in person and those I've had my hands on appear to start from the same core forging. I maybe wrong about that vs the most current offerings and I'm not knocking the company either way. Still I don't see any use of thier product lines for my interests at this time. For me at that point of cost I'm up for spending more for an actual US made item and supporting companies that consider that important. If I'm screwing a budget 302 together I'm probably going Scat unless quality drops even further. Should that occur or there be no other option is the only way I see myself ever sending Molnar money for China parts that expensive.

 I can also tell you I turned down a set of Molnar rods at FERR on a generous discount for a cash sale. Now I considered it knowing they are nice pieces but I just couldn't do it, hence this thread....


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FE Technical Forum / Re: FE rod options?
« on: May 05, 2018, 01:33:42 PM »
   From the wording on the website and previous posts about Molnar my understanding is that these are "finished in the USA" offshore parts. I've only seen a few of their offerings but those parts also looked like Scat pieces that were further detailed. I filed out a contact slip with Oliver just to see what they say but haven't found too much thumbing through various company listings. I'll make some calls Monday but wanted to see what might be known here.

 Thanks, Dan

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FE Technical Forum / FE rod options?
« on: May 05, 2018, 11:01:25 AM »
  Anything out there US made in long or short standard FE rods? Say in the $800-$1200 range.... This is mostly a preference, a $450 set of Scat H-beams would do the job but if I could get something between the $2500 billets and the China parts I'd be glad to toss the money at it .

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Would the pro builders please look
« on: May 03, 2018, 11:35:15 PM »
 There isn't much meat there but maybe a thinwall countersunk flange blind insert set in green loctite? Most guys seem to be okay with just thread sealer but something more permanent would be one less worry.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Great Day at the FE Reunion
« on: May 03, 2018, 09:19:57 PM »
"By the way, Ohio George has a 427 short block for sale that looks to be really, really nice.  Its a standard bore top oiler block with the complete Ford reciprocating assembly, including pistons.  Has all the paint marks you'd find on a virgin shortblock.  George wants $3950 for it.  Anyone who may be interested please send me an email and I'll hook you up with George to discuss.
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 FYI  I picked up George's short block which seems to be just as nice as described but it's actually 4.25 and may grace the classifieds part or whole.  Really it's too nice to tear into but not quite what I'm after with the production rods and cast crank.

  * Note... I got a call from George and Greg Montgomery today just to make sure I was happy, which I am by all means. Getting this gave me a good excuse to finally visit George's shop and as an Ohio punk into the 60's racing stuff they had to kick me out to get back to work. Lol just to be clear the previous post was not meant in a negative way in the least. The shortblock is stock and I purchased it knowing that full well. I bought it for the cherry block ending a search of many years, however I'm now uncertain what to do with it being so nicely preserved. My thoughts above were to possibly trade it for an equally nice bare block or sell the stock assembly but thinking about it further I'm keeping the block no matter how I use it in the end. Greg was nice enough to check it with a dial bore gauge while I was there but I misunderstood what he said and was under the impression it was 4.25... A quick check here with a cheap caliper read the same. Checking it again with better tools the block is in fact standard. I'm taking the effort here to highlight this so that no one who reads this can get the wrong idea about what I got vs what was advertised. In the end I got exactly what I wanted and had a blast hanging out with the guys at George's Speed Shop.

Thanks again, Dan

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Genisis block question
« on: May 03, 2018, 08:56:38 PM »
 Most of those I've run into had random issues such as voids/paper thin areas in the bulkheads etc.  One I was real close on buying until flipping it over where it had a 2" area of waterjacket missing and  smeared closed with JB weld. I've also read that at least early blocks were machined from both ends resulting in cases where things were not straight/difficult to fix. It may be fine but it's a case by case basis so you'll want it checked out to be on the safe side.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Scat billet crank
« on: April 21, 2018, 08:59:36 AM »
 It's been awhile but I was quoted $2200-2500ish on the Scat custom and $3,000 and change on the billet looking at a  dressed out 4.4 stroke crank. I might be off a touch without my sheet but the price was close enough I figured I might aswell plunk down the difference for a Crower that was "only" $3200 at the time. Retail on that Crower is now around $3700 from Jegs/Summit. I also contacted Moldex which was 2k to work over a 391 FT crank to 4"... which also lead me back to thinking Crower.

 

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   I've not bought the valvecovers but I have had several bumpers and misc. chrome parts. Most of the time I send them to have the chrome stripped first before modifying them but a few times I've just cut them up as is for mockup. In those cases I have found oil under the chrome and the rougher areas to be slag from using poor quality steel that is formed without being pickled first. Good quality steel stampings are smooth enough to chrome as delivered, it is repairs and stripped parts for rechroming that need to be buffed. Rechromed parts are buffed because the stripping process eats the surface of the steel in removing the chrome. Any remaining flaws can be taken out by building up copper and dressing it just like pitted potmetal. Generally though only in the case of a rough plate or the best of the best parts are they buffed at each step. Our friends in the far east are basically knocking off what slag they can and tossing parts in the tanks.

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Private Classifieds / Re: Interesting Hybrid Intake
« on: April 13, 2018, 08:50:09 AM »
  This intake or one just like it has been at the Columbus meet every time spring and fall for many years with or without a carb. At one point it had an early Dominator but he wouldn't separate it at the time. Later someone convinced him and the intake was $900 bare. This popped up just after the meet last year on Ebay and again this year at the same time. It is an F-66 with the runners cut down inside basically in Bud Moore fashion. Well, assuming it is the same example as it very much appears to be. The story sounds the same and the intake is identical in every way if it is the same seller or not.

  Just for fun Man-a-Fre also modified the F-66 for six of thier Rochester carbs which an optional secondary injection system called "the after burner" could be added to. Basically it took over at high rpm use with a flip of a switch. Ford also developed at least two similar intakes for Tunnelport 427 and the open plenum Hiriser piece I'm still looking for.

  This type of stuff is not for everyone that's why they developed and mass produce dualplane single four Performer RPMs that win nearly every single carb shootout ever printed for every brand of engine. No kidding your mild 390 is probably best suited to one... Maybe the mutant works, maybe not but it really doesn't matter either way. This thing could be a dog and still be cooler than pretty much anything else for a low/medium riser you're going to find. If anyone has this sort of thing for Hiriser, Boss 429, Boss 302...maybe Tunnelport-SOHC, no matter if it is XE Ford or some homemade effort I am most likely your buyer.
 

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Warning - Buyer Beware / Re: Survival
« on: March 30, 2018, 12:10:23 PM »
 I'm aware this is an old thread but looking at it and the other Survival complaint here I have to ask what good is this section if a person can not leave honest feedback?  I understand parts issues, impatient customers and the busy time of year in the auto industry being I run a custom chassis/sheetmetal shop. Look at all of the complaints on the old FE Ford forum, with such a number at least some of them have to be legitimate accounts.

 Jay, consider your contacts, your FE website, and from meeting you all of once I can't hear your name without thinking damn what a nice guy. Lol Barry would be an outright fool not to drop everything and fill your orders, us little guys not so much...

 For the record I like Barry and generally think he intends to do the right thing by people. Fact is he needs to be more realistic in the work he takes in and the promises he makes to customers.  I am a Survival customer and have had good and bad dealings with him just like any other person. Anyone interested I'd glad to share what Mr EMC sent me for $3k and just as fairly all my good experiences. That is the whole point of feedback, so next guy can make his choice and hopefully for the seller to improve his efforts. Fact is that good rep guy can still have a bad day or be too busy to send the quality you were willing to pay for. Somethings are a misunderstanding between two parties,  some not so much. Either way actual customers should be able to post a bad experience without friendships or a guy's hero status on the forum clouding that.

 Dan Adams Akron/Louisville Ohio, 32bantam/HvyFt4spd


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FE Technical Forum / Re: Blair Patrick.
« on: March 28, 2018, 10:30:07 AM »
 It's spring, I'm betting the shop phone has rang itself silent by now.

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