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FE Technical Forum / Pinion housing leaking
« on: June 02, 2015, 03:21:44 PM »
I replaced my differential yoke for one that fit a 1350 U-joint this winter. It's leaked ever since. When I ordered the new yoke from Moser they said just take the pinion housing out, install the new yoke and tighten the nut down to 250 ft. lbs torque. Moser claimed it was no big deal.
The oil leak believe it or not is coming through the yoke splines and around the nut. The pinion seal is good.

When I replaced the differential yoke I held the yoke in a vice and used a breaker bar with water pipe extension on it to tighten it down until I felt a small drag on the rotation of the pinion. Since I was coming off the floor to get that done with the breaker bar and water pipe extension I figured I was in the ball park. BUT, today when I took it out the nut broke loose with a small amount of effort using just the breaker bar. In other words the nut was loose. Now, Moser wants me to take the whole center section out and bring it to them to inspect the pinion housing and apply the right amount of torque on the nut. That seems weird since the only thing wrong is the pinion housing and they don't use a crush but a solid spacer on them.

One of the things that concerns me is a hole in the housing (before the O-ring seal that allows oil to lube the bearings. Moser claims it doesn't matter where this hole in located (top, bottom, or side) when installed in the center section. To me, this is probably where the oil is coming from that is leaking through the splines of the yoke. Where this hole is located should be relevant.

My plans are to find someone with a 250 ft. lb torque wrench and put it back together since the pinion seal is good. Have you guys had any experience that might help me here.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Retarding comp cam
« on: June 02, 2015, 02:48:11 PM »
Well, time's up. I'm going to go with the 268H cam and keep the rest of the motor the same. I'll gain 8% in HP and Torque at 2000 rpm and only loose 5% HP on top end ( if you can believe the computer dyno). It may not be accurate but it does give you the same comparative reading on different cams. DCR on this cam installed 110/106 is 7.9. Thanks guys. Now I've got a bigger problem with the True-Trac differential.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Retarding comp cam
« on: June 02, 2015, 07:16:28 AM »
Rockhouse66, you got real time information. That's what I was looking for. I read all this stuff on cams, run it through a computer dyno program and all you get is a comparison between the different cams you input. That's like figuring what octane you can run. The information from a engineering firm ( or credible looking website) says 7.6-7.8 DCR is good for 87 octane, 7.8-8.0 DCR is good for 89 octane, 8.0-8.2 DCR is good for 91 octane, 8.2-8.4 DCR is good for 93 octane and anything above that you need racing fuel. We also know from experience the aluminum head and a low quench will aid in preventing knock. Now I just got through putting 1600 miles on a car with an 8.1 DCR with iron heads but a quench of .030". I use 89 octane because of the quench, I'm sure of it because depending on which gas station I got gas from my engine would ping on that trip. I get 13mpg so I used a lot of those service stations along the way.
Anyone can study information, some of it fits my calculations, some of it don't. But the reason I get on here is for real time information and the experience you guys have got. That makes two of you that don't like a 265DEH. I don't like it either now.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Retarding comp cam
« on: June 01, 2015, 11:49:51 PM »
The car has a 3.50 true trac and a .64 5th gear on the tremec.
The 406 has a .030 quench with 10.7 CR and a 8.1 DCR. I had trouble with pinging going to Tupelo last month. I ended up using 93 octane down there and it still pinged some. When I got back to Warsaw I lowered the ignition timing from 17 to 14 and I'm running 89 again with no pinging. I run a Lunati 282/296, 214/224 @.050, .500/.500 lift, 114/110 LSA/ICL in it. PS, I've got a new 268H with new lifters on the shelf but it has a 218 @ .050 intake duration on it. I figured that was too much for 9.58 CR.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Retarding comp cam
« on: June 01, 2015, 10:08:35 PM »
Ross, what do you think about a 265DEH cam. That'll give me about 13 more horsepower and 33 ft. lbs torque at 2000 rpm. It takes away about 25 horsepower at 5000 rpm but I don't want to go there anymore anyway. The only bad thing is if I put it at 110/106 I'll have a 8.0 DCR. I don't mind that as long as it don't get to 8.1. My 406 has 8.1 and it teeters on 89/91/93 octane depending on where you get it. And on a trip that sucks. I think 8.0 DCR would be secure with 89 octane. What do you think, leave the motor as is and change the cam. Also the 265DEH intake duration at .050 is 211, which would be right on for 9.58 CR.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Retarding comp cam
« on: June 01, 2015, 09:11:57 PM »
Ross, Please do. This is the 410 engine you helped me build. It's got the Edelbrock RPM heads and Edelbrock intake with the 750 on it. Yes, give me your 2 cents. Thanks

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Retarding comp cam
« on: June 01, 2015, 08:28:19 PM »
I'll run them through the computer. But, the 265DEH gives me a lot of hp and torque at 2000 rpm. It's an 8.0 DCR though.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Retarding comp cam
« on: June 01, 2015, 05:59:40 PM »
First off, everything was cc'd and measured before assembly so I could rely on calculations. I have a Cam Research 282/288 adv, 216/225 @.050, .515/.540 lift, 110/106. .052quench which gives me 7.5 DCR and 9.58 CR and using a 750 Holley. This is all well and good for peak horsepower at 5000-5500 rpm. But, I'm not going to run my car up there again. That's over. I want gas mileage now and more horsepower and torque at lower rpm where I can possible get better gas mileage cruising at 1850 rpm (65mph) with the Tremec. I can gain about 42 lbs of torque and 20 hp at cruise with a cam that is more compatible with peak horse power coming in at 4500-4800 rpm.
What I planned on doing was using a XE256 comp cam, that's 256/268 adv, 212/219 @.050, .487/.493 lift, set on 110/110, .063 quench which would give me a 7.78 DCR and a 9.25 CR using a 570 Holley for carb. I think I need to stay within a + or - 4 degrees of a 208 @.050 Intake duration cam that I would need for a 9.25CR.

Now, some of you guy's helped me with this engine before, I'm going to hang onto everything you guy's say, it's worked before. Tell me what you'd do to get what I'm looking for. Thanks.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Retarding comp cam
« on: June 01, 2015, 04:32:05 PM »
Jim, if you want to increase the DCR, you advance the cam timing, not retard it.  You're trying to decrease your static compression ratio with a thicker gasket, but want the DCR to stay the same, right?
Yes and no. the cam I have now with a thicker head gasket would lower my Static Compression from 9.6 to 9.25. At the same time that bigger cam I have now will lower my DCR to worthless value. I've got a cam that will work but if I use it straight up the DCR value will shoot up past what I want. By retarding the cam to 110 ICL instead of 106 straight up, that will bring my DCR back down to a useable value.  The part I don't get is the built in advance of the cam. I feel like I'm changing something that wasn't meant to be changed. confused

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FE Technical Forum / Retarding comp cam
« on: June 01, 2015, 12:56:34 PM »
Friends,
I'm getting ready to change head gaskets on my 410 to a thicker gasket. Thus, I have to change cams to bring my compression (DCR) back up to where I want it. I'd like to get as much cubic inch use out of it I can get on 87 octane. I've already got a cam that would work well and give me what I'm looking for but it's a comp cam ( 110/106) and to get what I need it needs to be a 110/110 cam. Can I just get a timing set with multiple degree crank gear and use the 4 degree retard keyway.
I've always used a degree wheel to insure the results of ICL but I've never really used a crank gear with multiple keyways. This 4 degree built in stuff has me talking to myself. Thanks guys.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Rebuilding my 410
« on: April 08, 2015, 08:26:54 PM »
I think the carb is fine

Although I would like to see a little tighter quench, and unless you measured the chambers on your heads, I'd assume they are greater than 72 cc, so you could likely cut the deck a little and still be at 9.25 or so (Although I am not recommending assuming, I'd measure them) :)
Russ, Believe it or not I sure did CC the Edelbrock heads. The only spark plug I had at the time was a lawn mower plug that didn't reach that far but it was 72cc. I only measured one chamber though. I figured if it was made on a CNC all of them would be equal. With this setup I'll be getting 336 ci out of it and going from a 7.5 DCR to a 7.7 DCR. This combination gives me a lot more torque and a little more horsepower up to 4500 rpm. I don't drag race my car often so I can't see missing the 4750 up rpm anyways. I'd rather see the .061 quench than keep the head gaskets I'm running now.   

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Rebuilding my 410
« on: April 08, 2015, 10:55:32 AM »
Thanks guys,
    The 750 has won a place in my heart anyway. It's the first carb that all I did was set the choke idle adjust and that was it. Nice looking spark plugs, good idle, plenty of vacuum, secondary spring was correct for my cars weight, no bog at low rpm or secondary transition, etc. And, it was still pulling hard at the end of the quarter mile. That 410 makes a beautiful engine for my 57 Fairlane, if it just weren't for the damned oil leak, can't stand that. 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Rebuilding my 410
« on: April 08, 2015, 07:51:38 AM »
It'll work fine, very slightly on the low side of compression but should be a great all around driver

Are you sure you are only 9.25:1 though?  It's not easy to get a 410 down that low unless it's got a lot of deck clearance
Russ,
The Edelbrock heads has 72cc's and the gasket is .038. The deck has been cleaned up and I was miking .023-.024 to top of block when assembled. The piston is a -15 cc dish 1.66" comp. height piston. The quench is going to be about .061-.062. I'll live with that. The big thing I'm worried about is the carb. I love that 750 Holley. It has a great choke for cold weather, starts, idles and runs great. I hate letting it go. Do you think it'd be too much for that engine? When I work it up on the computer program it just gains me about 2-3HP over a 670 Avenger. Thanks Russ.

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FE Technical Forum / Rebuilding my 410
« on: April 07, 2015, 07:40:38 PM »
Hello guys,
   As some of you know I've been fighting an oil leak and it's going to get fixed in the next 30 days. My machinist owns a garage and he's going to do it for me. While I've got it out I'm putting .038 Edelbrock head gaskets on it (I found a small amount of antifreeze in the oil leak) and I'm going to put the original rocker stands and drip trays on it. I'm sticking with the 1.76 rockers (the rockers and shafts are new). I'm also getting rid of the windage tray ( About .200" of gasket material to use it). The new cam I'm putting in is the 268H comp cam. That will peak my horsepower around 4500 rpm instead of 5000 rpm and give me more torque and HP to 4500rpm. (it'll also give me more confidence in the original rocker configuration).
MY QUESTION IS THIS: Comp Cams says the 268H cam will work good with 9.25 Static Compression. Has anyone used this cam with only 9.25 CR and what was your experience?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Pinion support leaks.
« on: March 15, 2015, 10:10:47 AM »
I remember that O-ring and never touched it. Thanks, I can replace that and apply grease next time. I didn't apply any lubricant to it when I re-installed it. Thanks

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