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Thanks for posting that, I had that article in mind but haven't had time to dig it up.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: anyone on here ever make headers?
« on: July 30, 2018, 10:08:37 AM »
  Every application is different but using stubs allows for pressforming, less destortion at the flange and easy straightening if it occurs. Once the stubs are fully welded you then add the tubes while bolted to a head or fixture. Without them the flange joint is welded last... For this reason some companies blob mig wire around the ports so the flange remains it's full thickness after being plained. The length of a stub can be ajusted or angled and there is no reason one more weld in a multiple piece header has to ruin the look. As with any joint it can be metal finished and polished on stainless or sets to  be chromed. Should one  not use them the expansion method is still viable for a full primary tube.  You may need to adjust them here and there but it's a significant saving in time vs hand shaping each one from scratch. More important is that guys who tack, torch and hammer are introducing carbon at the flange weld. Carbon hardens the weld, increases burn in temp, the possibility of contamination and cracking. You certainly don't have to use stubs and at times I choose not to but they are a viable time and problem saving method.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: anyone on here ever make headers?
« on: July 23, 2018, 05:24:07 PM »
 That is a really cool way to do it. I usually make a pair of dies that replace the vice jaws and just reverse it. In other cases a simple male press die and a stop if not just a distance mark for repeatability. It's more setup but often faster production depending on the design needed.


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FE Technical Forum / Re: Deck height VS quench
« on: July 13, 2018, 02:52:41 PM »
 Speaking head spacers with big strokes M/T did that in 64 on 289's. What's funny about that is it leaves guys scratching there heads when they are so lucky as to find the blower manifolds. Due to the deck spacers a clearly Windsor intake is often too narrow for a 351 that didn't exist yet and too wide for the 289 noted by the part number.

 

 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Deck height VS quench
« on: July 12, 2018, 04:49:09 PM »
  That's interesting, everything old is new type of deal I guess. At RAM that was noted to be something learned at the engine classes Smokey held in the 70's. In 02 before working there myself I wanted a block O-ringed for nitrous and was given the idea of pushing the piston above the deck at least .010 as an alternative. I'm not aware of a downside from it being done that way but wonder what the margin of pressure variance is.

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  Stock is 1 to 1 but if you're a 660-870 fan you'll often find the secondary cam reshaped to delay the opening rate. You can do as much damage as good there real quick but it's something I still mess with to even out the bogg or surge you can get from them.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: High port TF FE heads?--pondering
« on: July 10, 2018, 01:31:45 AM »
You might want to look up Wally Booth and Al Mathon. There are also a couple of different guys currently experimenting with variations of a raised port Z-11 and DCI is doing a modern RA V head too...O/T by application but the same core concept. Maybe I missed it but I saw no mention of Jay's own TP spaced, MR port, Hiriser heads.


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FE Technical Forum / Re: Scott Foxwell I apologize if I....
« on: July 09, 2018, 09:12:19 PM »
Hey, I had no issues with Scott and also appreciated his views. But geez, attitude counts too and dragging others through the mud has no place here..nor any Ford blog. I also have some contrary views on 'stuff' but would never denigrate our pro engine builders nor even totally rookie novices!

 Hey, Bob

 A different point of veiw even when it's not the accepted method is far more valuable than more cheerleadng is all I was getting at. I do agree with you here about being civil but I also feel the counters to his somewhat brash statements resulted in farther detail and guarded information than if one were to simply ask in a polite manor.  Tipping of the hand a touch if you will...  Poke a guy's ego or tout yours and more often than not someone will spill the beans. I've done it but lucky for me the best I have to offer is usually discounted by more popular individuals. Lol

, Dan


 

 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Scott Foxwell I apologize if I....
« on: July 09, 2018, 04:26:48 PM »
 I saw the "monkey see monkey do" comment not whatever was possibly posted before. If it seems to work others follow, just as similar minds with similar experience often arrive at the same solution. Ten years ago how many ran hydraulic rollers with factory non adjustables? It's the hot setup now isn't it? How many thought needle bearings were the way on roller rockers forever and now we're heading back to bushings. Moving forward takes testing and often a push by people who have thier own way of thinking. Otherwise we fall in a groove until that change smacks us in the face.

 Ole Scott might not of been the source of the next big thing but people like him willing to go against the grain are often those who inspire such. Even when it was in an effort to prove him wrong he provoked the best discussions I've yet to see on here. It was a nice change at times vs all the glad handing but some tact would serve him well.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Planning out a new exhaust system
« on: June 19, 2018, 12:22:21 AM »
 I think that's your connection, the hamonic cancelling allows for a more free flowing design that would otherwise be pushing the decible level. Think about it in terms of making the entire exhaust system one big flowmaster muffer. Equalizing pressure or some pulse overlap may be happening there as often pressed, IDK. I have had times were adding an H or X to an existing exhaust system felt like it did something. What I've also noticed is that at times I was driving by ear and running the engine harder now that the system was quieter so it obviously was making more power being run at a higher rpm.. No series of slips either, generally just people that read magazines and decided they needed one.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Total Control Engine Mounts
« on: June 17, 2018, 09:12:23 PM »
 Let's see if this posts

   While an extreme case this is what happens when you build a car on a rotisserie.

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 The inertia ring or crank hole itself can be off center on the balancer.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Total Control Engine Mounts
« on: June 17, 2018, 06:55:34 PM »
   If you insist on using the rotisserie simply indicate carb angle of the intake you will use vs a level surface. Now tip the block/trans from level in the opposite direction that number.
 You must account for the rake of the chassis at ride height. Other things that come into play is that your engine mounts compress more than the transmission mount does which changes the final angle. Being on the rotisserie also affects the way the car is loaded which needs to be accounted for. Other than owning a chassis jig it's hard to beat mockup on a level floor.

 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Total Control Engine Mounts
« on: June 16, 2018, 12:53:11 PM »
 Do have an angle finder/protractor? Dial it in where at ride height the carb pad is level. Then adjust vs pinion angle... See how bad it is as you want the mount as close to nuetral as possible. A little tweak won't matter as the weight of the engine/trans is going to compress/distort the mount slightly anyway. You still want it close if can't make it perfect as a twisted mount makes removing and installing the driveline more difficult.

  I've never found any one of those type of kits that account for this out of the box properly. I just make own most of the time but on a customer supplied set you can usually shim your way there. If not you'll be into modifing or returning the set up.

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Private Classifieds / Re: Holman Moody air scoop
« on: June 13, 2018, 11:08:22 AM »
 A few things anyone bidding might what to be aware of. That one is an original one piece Low/Medium riser spacing scoop and the most important feature is that it still has the flame arrestors present and the openings have not been modified. The down side is that there are several reproductions that have significantly reduced what these can sell for and the "rarity" to own one. All of these I'm aware of have been for Low/Medium riser but Holman Moody did make an original version for Hiriser which is quite a find.

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