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FE Technical Forum / Re: Runout on Flywheel
« on: October 10, 2015, 05:56:27 AM »
You won't have anything happen to it in 200 mi I don't think. I've got about 30 drag races on mine since new and a bunch of miles though. Mid way through this flywheel I had the transmission out for something and I replaced the clutch disc. It was about 1/2 way worn out. The flywheel was perfect then. My second clutch disc didn't get a lot of miles put on it before I started drag racing it again, and McLeod said they wanted 500 miles of regular driving put on the clutch before you started abusing it. It's got a Kevlar-aluminum flywheel side with an organic pressure plate side. By all means, listen to them. I had very few miles on the 2nd clutch and it eat at the flywheel.
You've not got the problem I do. My flywheel is balanced to the crank. You just don't go down and order a new one and pop it on. I'll never own another externally balanced engine assembly again.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Runout on Flywheel
« on: October 09, 2015, 08:09:43 PM »
Nightmist66,
Don't want to alarm you but the flywheel I have is a Ford Racing Billet Steel FMS-M-6375-P428. It's got about 20K miles or so on it with a few drag races under it's belt. But, the point is, the guy that did the grinding on the flywheel for me said he took almost .040 off it to get it right again. He even left a portion of the flywheel unground past the pressure plate mounting bolts. The place he left unground was where I set "0" on my indicator and his "high point" opposite "my 0" was .010" too low. So, if nothing else, I know this flywheel was warped .030" anyway. This is a 29LB hunk of steel billet that I didn't think was suppose to fold up like a cheap cardboard box from Ford Racing.

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FE Technical Forum / Runout on Flywheel
« on: October 09, 2015, 03:38:17 PM »
I checked the run out of the face of my flywheel after they got through resurfacing it today. Using a plunge indicator located 6 inches from the center of the flywheel, I had a TIR of .010". I'm using a 11" clutch disc. Should the surface of the flywheel be flatter than that. I read .001" per inch from the center was permissible. I'm asking you guys cause you can give me real life experience. Will I experience any problem with it not being perfect. Thanks, Jim

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Cam Plug
« on: September 23, 2015, 07:34:06 PM »
Yep, knew that, the old one reads 2.380".

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FE Technical Forum / Cam Plug
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:20:08 PM »
Would someone please tell me which cam plug to get for my 352 FE block I have bored out to 4.05. I put the Dorman 555-054 in it before with permatex and it ended up leaking. I plan on using a two part epoxy next time but I can't figure out which cam plug to use. The Pioneer EPC-92 is suppose to be 2.390" and I've got a hole of 2.375". What do you guys use. Thanks guys, Jim

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FE Technical Forum / Re: What would you do.
« on: September 07, 2015, 02:43:25 PM »
I need to apologize to you guys for starting a post when I didn't know what I was talking about. The engine I thought I had isn't the engine I've got now. After cleaning up everything and measuring it I think I'll still be OK using .020 head gaskets.
What I've got. A 105 block in which the level of the deck is within .001 using a Starrett straight edge ruler mounted on a indicator base (magnetic).
 H395P +.030 pistons ( 9 cc dish from what I can find information on) which set .030 below the deck.
C1AE heads that should cc out to 71-74cc's of dish (heads are still at machinist).
From all measurements taken I should end up with a .050" quench, 9.57 - 9.85 SCR, 7.9 - 8.1 DCR.
 I also spoke to Stan Johnson about the FPA headers I have fitting the C1AE heads, he said it would. Now I've just got to confirm the "S" code 390 intake will seal on the C1AE heads. Thanks for your patience.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: What would you do.
« on: August 30, 2015, 11:55:21 AM »

I think you'll find that tight quench falls under the law of diminishing returns, in something like an FE with a decent sized quench pad, .040-.045 does all you need IMHO. 

The Gal sounds like a very cool car
Ross,
 This 390 I'm putting together is set on 110/106 installation giving me a 8.23 DCR with a .044 quench. If I find I have trouble with engine knock I can always bump the ICL to 108 or 110 and still have good bottom end torque. Truth be known I should take the timing chain cover off now while I can change it easily and set it on 108.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: What would you do.
« on: August 30, 2015, 07:36:47 AM »

One last comment, I know you know how to calculate DCR because you do it often, but overlap doesn't affect DCR, although the diluted mixture from overlap could reduce detonation at low RPM I suppose.  Did you mean you swapped to a intake closing point of 61 degrees?  61 degrees of overlap for the RPM you run would be a relatively healthy cam.
Ross,
 61 is the degrees my intake and exhaust is open at the same time. 71 degrees is my intake closing angle. I had designed the engine to go into a 63 Galaxie Boxtop to resemble a "B" code 63. I found most of the components before I found the car. I was just going to drag race it. When I changed my mind about drag racing it I needed a different cam. Lunati designed this one for me so I could run on pump gas. 282/296, 214/224 @50, 114/110, .500/.500 lift. It was a 1.73 ratio and 0.00 lash designed cam.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: What would you do.
« on: August 28, 2015, 08:09:01 AM »
Personally, Jim, I think you'll be on the ragged edge of being able to run high octane pump gas with that combo.  If I were building this engine, I would shoot for around 9.5-9.7 SCR and eyeball the DCR so that it doesn't get over 8. 
I'm living proof that quench does make a difference. I use forged pistons in my 63 Galaxie engine that gives me a .009" measured deck height using C3AE Heads. I used .020 steel shim gaskets on it. When the weather is cool up here in Indiana I use 87 octane gas with no knock whatsoever. I use 89 octane most of the time. I went to a 61 overlap cam to get the DCR down to 8.06, CR is 10.7.  Now, I've put at least 25K miles on this engine with no problems. But, I don't race it very often either. My cam lift is just .500/.500 but, how many people do you know that's running a .029 quench. 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: What would you do.
« on: August 28, 2015, 05:29:39 AM »
What will help the driveability and the health of the motor the most would be to get a thinner gasket or have the decks cut.  Having over .060" of quench distance is not conducive to a happy engine.
You know, you're right. I just got through figuring how much more money in gas it would cost me a year to go from a 7.8 DCR to a 8.2 DCR. About $150 dollars a year. What the hell was I thinking. I'm going to call the guy doing my heads and tell him to put the big valves in the C1AE heads and I'll go with the .020 shim gaskets I already have laying on the shelf. I've run a .020 gasket on my 406 for 3 years now and not had any trouble with them. That'll give me a @ .044 quench and 8.2 DCR at 10.0 - 1 compression. Thanks for waking me up.

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FE Technical Forum / What would you do.
« on: August 27, 2015, 03:36:35 PM »
I'm building a 390 105 block that is bored .030 over. I'm using stock rods and 9.5 pistons with a @ .023 deck height. I plan on using the Fel Pro .038 gaskets also. I'm using a 570cfm Avenger carb and "S" code intake. The rocker ratio is 1.73. The cam is a 268H comp cam and it's set on 106 ICL. With stock C1AE heads and FPA headers it looks like I could get about 315 HP out of it. My question is. While the heads are being rebuilt should I put 2.087" intake and 1.652" exhaust valves in it. Will it help me that much with this low of a HP 390. Thanks guys. 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Edelbrock 60069 Heads
« on: August 12, 2015, 03:43:00 PM »
Update:
   Just to let you guys know, the engine is back together. I noticed one thing this time that was different from the first time I put it together, the intake bolts dropped right into place and tightened by finger without moving the intake around to get the bolts in. Have no idea how it lasted for 20K miles like it was, but it did. I can rev the engine now without making smoke. It still has 17 inches manifold pressure and the gauge still acts the same as before. Taught me a lesson. Thanks again everyone. I'd never have thought the vacuum gauge wouldn't have indicated a vacuum leak.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Timing question
« on: August 10, 2015, 08:05:01 PM »
Have you got a big spring in the hose going from the bottom of your radiator to the inlet of the water pump? Also make sure your fan belt isn't hard, usually the alternator discharges when that happens also.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Edelbrock 60069 Heads
« on: August 10, 2015, 06:45:13 PM »
I would skip the RTV altogether.....

Use the Right Stuff, TA-31, Dow-Corning silicone, or similar.  Put a small smear around every port on the heads, lay the gaskets down, then set the intake on it and let it sit overnight.  Go back the next day, smear some more on the gasket around the ports, lay your beads down for the end gaskets, then set the intake on, start the bolts, set the distributor (make sure intake is centered around it), then tighten her down.
When I said RTV I meant "The Right Stuff". I called NAPA earlier today and they had two calk containers of it. They laid one back for me. I'll do it like you suggest. One more day after all this isn't going to hurt me. Thanks, Jim

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Edelbrock 60069 Heads
« on: August 10, 2015, 03:34:40 PM »
Well, the intake is off, cleaned up and new gasket ready to put back on. The drivers side gasket looked good, the passenger side gasket had slide somewhat when it was installed and I had numerous places on #2 intake that only covered a small portion of the gasket. The gasket itself was broken in to between #2 and #3. Don't ask me, I have no idea. If this isn't the problem it's missed a good chance anyway.
I plan on using "the right stuff" this time and covering the head side of the gasket with a thin layer of RTV. I think I'll let it set for a couple hours before I put another thin layer of RTV on the intake side of the gasket. Then I'll install the intake.
Thank each and every one of you for you help and suggestions. Jim

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