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FE Technical Forum / Re: First year FE history lesson.
« on: November 28, 2018, 01:48:44 PM »
According to Wikipedia:

Introduced in 1958 as part of the Interceptor line of Ford V8 engines, the Ford 352 of 351.9 cu in (5.8 L) actual displacement was the replacement for the Lincoln Y-block. It is a stroked 332 with 3.5 inches (88.90 mm) stroke and a 4 inches (101.60 mm) bore, and was rated from 208 bhp (155.1 kW) with a 2-barrel carburetor to over 300 bhp (223.7 kW) on the 4-barrel models. When these engines were introduced, they were called Interceptor V-8 on the base models and Interceptor Special V-8 on the 4-barrel models.[22] The 1958 H vin coded 352 was designated as Interceptor V-8 Thunderbird Special according to the 1958 Ford V8 Cars & Thunderbird Service Manual pg 483.

I wonder if the 4 bbl 332 also ended up with the Interceptor Sticker as well?

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Anyone near Moore, OK?
« on: November 28, 2018, 01:32:07 PM »
That's cool, I drove halfway across the country for this (Classic?) F350 Diesel Dually, so I understand.


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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Anyone near Moore, OK?
« on: November 27, 2018, 01:57:33 PM »
Jack,
   I am in Springfield, MO.  About 4 hrs away each way.  I could take a peak at it this weekend if you can't find anyone closer.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Cam Advice
« on: November 20, 2018, 02:21:43 PM »
When I rebuilt the 390 in my '76 F-250 (2x4) a few years ago, I used a Howard's Dual Pattern Cam, P/N 252461-12.  That motor had very similar specs to your 428, about 9.5:1 compression, 0.030" overbore, factory iron heads and 4 bbl intake with 600 cfm Holley, and long tube headers.  That motor pulls real hard to 5000 rpm, has a decent, but slightly lopey idle and knocks down a consistent 13 to 15 mpg.  I would think with the extra cubes in the 428, you might want to step up to a bit bigger cam, but the Howard's cam I chose looks to be very similar to the solid Crane CJShaker described above.  Just remember that cam opinions are like belly buttons, everyone has one and some are ugly.

Manufacturer: Howards Cams & Racing Components
Manufacturer's Part Number: 252461-12
Application: Ford FE 352-428 1963-77
Ignition Firing Order: (1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8)
Cam Style: Hydraulic Flat Tappet Camshaft
Basic RPM Range: 1600-5400
Manufacturers Description: Street Force™ 2, good idle & throttle response, needs 4 barrel & good exhaust.
Intake Duration @ .050": 215
Exhaust Duration @ .050": 225
Advertised Intake Duration (@ .050"): 269
Advertised Exhaust Duration (@ .050"): 279
Intake Valve Lift with OE Rocker Ratio (1.75): .519”
Exhaust Valve Lift with OE Rocker Ratio (1.75): .543"
Intake Lobe Lift: .296"
Exhaust Lobe Lift: .310”
Intake Valve Lift with 1.70 Rocker Ratio: .504"
Intake Valve Lift with 1.80 Rocker Ratio: .534”
Exhaust Valve Lift with 1.70 Rocker Ratio: .527"
Exhaust Valve Lift with 1.80 Rocker Ratio: .558”
Lobe Separation Angle: 112 Degrees
Intake Centerline: 108 Degrees
Small Base Circle: No
Lifters Included: No
Cam Gear Attachment: Single-Bolt
Valve Adjustment: Zero Lash Plus ½ Turn

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Anybody have experience using-----
« on: November 02, 2018, 11:57:42 AM »
I have never used a GearVendors, the cost always seemed prohibitive.  A new one will run you $3K to 3.5K depending on application, and you will likely be into it for over $4K after installation (new driveshaft, floor mods, etc.)

I put a Broader built AOD behind the 352 in my '62 Merc Monterey.  Adapted the Cruis-O bellhousing to the AOD case.  All in cost of about $2.5K, and it works wonderfully. 3.6:1 Rear gear and it cruises very happily at 2200 RPMs and 70 mph.

https://www.broaderperformance.com/

If you have a 3 or 4 speed manual, take a look at an Advance Adaptors Road Ranger Gear Splitter.  I have one installed between the 6.9 IDI and T-19 4 Speed in my '85 F-350.  This is also a wonderful product (a bit noisy in high range), that works really well even with the 4.56:1 rear axle ratio.  They work with just about any Ford 3 or 4 speed manual.  All in Cost of about $2.8K, and I paid someone to do all the work, which included floor mods, new carpet, new clutch, and a shortened driveshaft.  Much cheaper if you do it yourself,

https://www.advanceadapters.com/categories/complete-units/91/

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Anybody have experience using-----
« on: November 02, 2018, 11:52:25 AM »
I have never used a GearVendors, the cost seemed prohibitive.  A new one will run you $3K to 3.5K depending on application, and you will likely be into it for over $4K after installation (new driveshaft, floor mods, etc.)

I put a Broader built AOD behind the 352 in my '62 Merc Monterey.  Adapted the Cruis-O bellhousing to the AOD case.  All in cost of about $2.5K, and it works wonderfully. 

https://www.broaderperformance.com/

If you have a 3 or 4 speed manual, take a look at an Advance Adaptors Road Ranger Gear Splitter.  I have one installed between the 6.9 IDI and T-19 4 Speed in my '85 F-350.  This is also a wonderful product (a bit noisy in high range), that works really well even with the 4.56:1 rear axle ratio.  They work with just about any Ford 3 or 4 speed manual.  All in Cost of about $2.8K, and I paid someone to do all the work, which included floor mods, new carpet, new clutch, and a shortened driveshaft.  Much cheaper if you do it yourself,

https://www.advanceadapters.com/categories/complete-units/91/

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 390 build
« on: October 18, 2018, 04:33:30 PM »
With that little bit of information, you might as well be asking Stevie Wonder what color that flower is.

Tell us the engine build details, what vehicle it is going into (the same 390 in a '76 F350 is going to get much different mileage then in a '34 Ford), drivetrain details, tire size, etc.

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Member Projects / Re: FE in a 77 F150 4X4
« on: October 16, 2018, 12:59:19 PM »
76 and 77 model years were virtually identical.  The crossmembers should be the same.  My '76 F-250 has a 390 in it.  Great motor for that truck.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Used 390 c.i. purcahse?
« on: October 16, 2018, 12:41:51 PM »
At the end of the day, it is a used motor, pay accordingly.  If you went and bought a 390 block and built that motor, you would likely have much more then $2K into it, but being used, it could take a dump at any time, and then you are staring at a $4K to $6K rebuild.  Hearing it run helps, but there is still an element of risk involved. 

A buddy of mine bought a 292 Y-Block that "sounded great and didn't smoke".  It lasted 200 miles before it lost oil pressure and took out the mains.  I tore it apart for him and found that whomever put it together didn't like gaskets.  They used a ton of RTV and a few chunks broke off and plugged up the oil gallies and drain back, filling the valve covers with the oil and starving the pump. 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: affordable oil to use for a run and dump
« on: October 15, 2018, 12:34:59 PM »
I will add another recommendation for the Rotella 15w40 Diesel Oil too.  Great product for the money. 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Show us your garage/shop.
« on: October 10, 2018, 12:46:33 PM »
This is my old shop (during a garage tour) in North-West Minnesota.  The property is currently for sale, since I took a new job in Missouri and am currently hunting for another shop.  The old shop was (is) 41' x 41', Heated and Air conditioned with 11' walls.  Hopefully I can find something with a bit more room.

 




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Interesting that the '65 427 Cobra was the quickest from 0-60 until the Porsche 959 came along some 22 years later.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Readings on 3 x 390 crank journals
« on: September 11, 2018, 01:00:23 PM »
I am confused now too.  The way I read it yesterday was that you measured the first 3 journals on a single crankshaft and came up with different sizes between each of the first 3 journals.  Or was it as Lg57 implied that you measured 3 separate crankshafts and reported average numbers for the rods and mains?  In which case, what is the question?  0.0025" to 0.003" clearance is generally considered nominal, looks like you are at 0.004 to 0.006" on your mains. 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Readings on 3 x 390 crank journals
« on: September 10, 2018, 12:43:06 PM »
Not to put words in Brent's mouth, but what I think he is driving at is that it would be rather odd that some machinist would cut one of the mains at -0.020" and the others at -0.030".  You would then have to buy multiple sets of bearings and play the mix and match game.  So, are you sure you measured accurately?  Also, what were the rest of the journals cut at?  Do the bearing shells have their size marketed on them?  If so, do they match your measurements?


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FE Technical Forum / Re: Distributor: Need suggestions for stock-look
« on: August 15, 2018, 12:38:13 PM »
I am running the Pertronix on the 352 in my '62 Merc Wagon.  Obviously not a race motor, but it works good and I have 0 complaints.  For everything else, I run a Duraspark.  Hard to beat it on the highway.  The only weakpoint of the Durspark is replacement (Standard or similar brands) control modules are very sensitive to electric flux.  Be very careful when jumping the car, charging the battery, or welding on the chassis.  I have found many ways to let the magic smoke out of the darn things.  Good thing they are cheap.

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