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FE Technical Forum / FE Power 8V Intake
« on: May 16, 2020, 04:41:22 PM »
This is the dual four barrel cast aluminum intake that I will be offering for my cylinder heads.  I just got the first two castings off the CNC machine and got the halves assembled, so I thought I would post some pictures.  This manifold is similar to my 4V intake in that it splits apart for easy porting, if that is desired.  This particular one is drilled for the 4150 Holley carb pattern, but drilled and tapped so that the carbs can be mounted in either direction.  Carb spacing is the same as the factory Ford medium riser or tunnel port spacing, not the larger high riser spacing, so that factory carbs and oval air cleaner bases can be used as-is.  As you can see the manifold also has provisions for EFI injectors, if someone wants to go that route.





The photo below shows one half of the manifold with the O-ring cords installed:




And, here's a picture of how it looks on the intake adapter:




These are the three different cast aluminum intakes that will work with my heads (I also plan a billet, sheet metal style intake, but I haven 't got that designed or machined yet).  That's a pretty nice line up of intakes, if I do say so myself  ;D




I'm really getting anxious to run the heads and these intakes on the dyno.  All I really have left to do is make up a rocker arm setup that incorporates the latest changes, then build the dyno mule and the headers for the RE heads, and run.  Not too much longer, I hope...

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FE Technical Forum / Guess what's going on in this picture
« on: May 09, 2020, 03:34:59 PM »
A friend sent me this picture.  The transmission has been removed, and the picture is taken looking into the back end of the crankshaft.  What do you guys make of that?  I will post the full story a little later...


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Private Classifieds / Dove Tunnel Ram
« on: April 16, 2020, 09:50:44 AM »
If anyone is interested in a DOVE tunnel ram, I saw this today, it's about 200 miles South of me in CA.

I think it's been for sale for a while, I think I saw it about 2 or 3 weeks ago, too.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/681779382634683/

Edit:  Originally posted by frnkeore

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Black Oxide Coating
« on: April 15, 2020, 05:30:13 PM »
Some of you have seen the thread at the link below, where I eventually made some of the hardware I need to run my cylinder heads on an engine:

http://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=8549.0

I was happy with the results except that the hardware was not black, like an ARP nut or bolt.  CV355 mentioned that a company called Caswell made a do-it-yourself black oxide kit.  I looked up their web site and found that I could order the kit for less than $100, so I went ahead with that.  The kit arrived yesterday, so today I tried it all out.

The basic kit runs about $60, but they recommend an additional preparation chemical for hardened steels, called the activator, so I got that one as well.  The kit included the chemicals for pre-treating the hardened steel, the black oxide coating, and a sealer, plus a couple of white buckets for mixing up the chemicals.  Since what I was doing was pretty small, I didn't need to use the buckets, so I ended up using some plastic paint measuring cups.  Also required for the process is distilled water.  Here's a photo of what I set up to begin the process:



The process involves mixing the activator and black oxide chemical with distilled water, one part chemical to 9 parts water.  For what I needed I hardly used any of the material.  The sealer is used at full strength, but they give you two quarts of that with the $60 kit, so there's plenty of that too.  I used the small cups in the photo above to measure the activator and the black oxide chemical, along with the distilled water, because the cups have ounces marked on the side.  When I was done mixing the chemicals they looked like this:




The nut in the foreground of the photo was one of my first tries at machining these things and the hole in the nut isn't quite concentric with the outside diameter, so I thought I'd start with this one.  I didn't do any prep to the machined surfaces, but the raw surfaces got wire brushed before I started.  First you dip the part in the activator and let it sit in there for 3-4 minutes, then take it out and rinse it in the cup of distilled water.  Then it goes into the black oxide chemical for 2-5 minutes.  They say to agitate the chemical, but all I did was stir it around with a paint stick.  After about 3 minutes I took it out and rinsed again in distilled water, then dropped it into the sealer for 2 minutes.  Took it out and set it on a paper towel to dry.  It looked pretty good, I thought.




After it dried for a couple hours I did notice a few spots where the black oxide hadn't really adhered well to the nut.  The instructions made a point of washing the parts with soap and water prior to coating them, and I hadn't done that with the first one.  So, I took the first five good nuts that I machined, scuffed all surfaces with a wire wheel, and then washed them off in hot soapy water.  Then, I went through the same process with these five.  They look much better than the first one, and I'm very pleased with the results; here they are next two the other five original nuts:




A couple of other comments.  One is that the chemicals are corrosive, so you should wear rubber gloves when doing this procedure.  Also, their web site calls the finish an "oily" finish using these chemicals, but it doesn't really appear oily to me at all, after the sealer finally dries (which takes a couple hours).  It looks just like the finish on an ARP fastener.  Needless to say, I'm very pleased with these results.  I still have tons of chemical left from the $60 kit, so I should be all set to make more of these fasteners in case I can't find a source to make them for me at a reasonable price.

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Since the beginning of March I've finally been getting good cylinder head castings for the FE Power cylinder head project, and I just got the first set back from my local shop with the valve job done, so I've been working on getting my dyno mule ready to run.  I've been refining the design of my rocker arm system that is required for use with these heads, and thanks to some help from Bill Conley I've got that pretty much dialed in now.  The rocker system does require some special hardware though, in particular the nuts for the head studs on the intake side.  These nuts have a 1/2-20 thread on one side to screw onto the head studs, and a 3/8-16 thread on the other side.  The bar that goes across the head and supports the rocker shafts bolts into these nuts with some 3/8-16 bolts. 

I did this because I didn't want to rely only on bolts into the cylinder head itself to attach this bar, after seeing what happens to some other heads (specifically Blue Thunder High Risers), when a lot of valve spring pressure is used.  Some of you may have seen pictures of the top of the port being ripped right off the head in that case.  Attaching to the head studs is much better, so my system uses that approach.  As a result I need a nut like the one shown in the pictures below:





It's pretty simple.  It is just 13/16" round stock, 1.4" long with a 5/8" hex cut into the top of it, so you can tighten the nut.  The underside is threaded for 1/2-20, and the top is threaded for 3/8-16.  Nothing to it.

I went to ARP and asked how much it was going to cost for 20 prototypes, and a production run of 300.  Take a guess, folks, I'll post the answer tomorrow.  Bottom line is I may be making these myself... >:(

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FE Technical Forum / Nice pic of my Mach 1 in the March 2020 Hot Rod...
« on: January 04, 2020, 06:17:40 PM »
They did a little article on the original Drag Week in 2005, splashed my Mach 1 across two pages, doing a burnout at KCIR.  Talk about a nice surprise  :D :D

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FE Technical Forum / FE Power at the PRI Show
« on: December 15, 2019, 08:24:03 PM »
Just got back from this year's Performance Racing Industry show, and really had a great time.  Some of you guys here ought to figure out how to attend; all you really need is to show up with a business card with your name on it, and a story about how your business services or buys from the performance racing industry, and you can get it in with no trouble.  I'll bet I saw about 50 badges with somebody's name on it, and under the badge it said "Somebody's Name Racing".  You get the idea.  All it takes is a business card to see 1200 of the best companies in the performance car market.

For me one of the highlights of the show is seeing all the FE luminaries in person, and this year was a banner year.  Seemed like every half hour somebody who I've watched and admired for years showed up at the booth.  Ohio George Montgomery, Ray Paquet, Jon Kaase, John Calvert, Jim Waldo,  Blair Patrick, Kurt Neighbor, etc. etc.  We were also visited by some of the other manufacturers who I really like, such as Larry Tores (from T&D Machine).  I spoke with Larry about the rocker arm setup on my new heads, and may work a deal with him so that he actually will manufacture them for FE Power, which would give me supreme confidence in the valvetrain.

We had lots of interest in the new cylinder head package, and even generated some interest from the press, including John McGan (sp?, former editor of Hot Rod and Car Craft), and a production company that was interested in putting an engine with the crossram injection package on a show car in a few months.  Kevin, Jeff and I were constantly talking to people at the show, which made it fun but exhausting at the same time.  Nevertheless it was a worthwhile endeavor, and I expect we will be back again next year.

Pictures tell the story, so the first few photos are of the many FE luminaries who stopped by during the show (yes, Jon Kaase falls into that category, he used to run a tunnel port!).  This is a picture of me and Ohio George Montgomery.  George is a great guy, and I love talking to him.  He's very enthusiastic about the cylinder head project:




Here's Jon Kaase looking over the new heads:




Here's a couple of photos of Ray Paquet.  I had a great talk with Ray about how I might be able to get the heads approved for NHRA Super Stock competition; it would be pretty cool if we could actually pull that off:






John Calvert and Jim Waldo stopped by the booth on Saturday.  I had never bet Jim before, and only met John once, but of course knew immediately who they were.  I used to watch their exploits all the time when I was a fledgling FE guy:




And of course I had to go corral my friend David Freiburger at the Motor Trend booth, where he and Finnegan were signing Roadkill posters and handing them out.  I invited them to come to the booth and see the products, but my guess is that EVERYONE in the show did the same thing, so of course they didn't show up:




The next photos show all the parts in the booth that I displayed this year.  Last year the booth was only 10X10, but this year we went up to a 10X20 booth, with all the new parts we had to display, and it worked out much better.  It gave room for people to stand in the booth and talk, without blocking everyone else who might want to come in.  I hope you guys enjoy the pictures, and try to make it to PRI next year if you can.  You won't regret the trip!






















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FE Technical Forum / FE Power Cylinder Head Package - Update
« on: December 08, 2019, 01:44:13 PM »
Summary:

-  Still no dyno data, working through some casting issues on the cylinder heads
-  Have cast the first couple prototype heads with the stock exhaust port location
-  Modifications to the raised exhaust port head yielded a big improvement in flow, and the stock exhaust port head exceeded my flow expectations
-  Next round of castings is due in January, hopefully all foundry issues will be solved by then and I can run the heads on the dyno.


Sorry for the delay on an update for this project, I have been ridiculously busy with the project and getting ready for PRI next week, so I just haven't had a lot of time to post new information.

By this time I was hoping to have an engine running with my new heads on it, but various issues with casting the cylinder heads has caused some delays, and as a result I still don't have a set of heads that I am ready to run on an engine.  Starting back in September, I had completed the design of the version of the heads with the stock exhaust port location, and got a couple more heads poured.  However, the foundry had problems filling the mold, and the exhaust ports came out only partially formed.  In addition, the water jacket core broke during the pouring operation, then floated up into contact with the exhaust port cores, resulting in holes in all the exhaust ports.  See the photo:




Well, as a good friend of mine is fond of saying, if it was cheap and easy, everybody would do it.  >:(  It was back to the drawing board on the stock exhaust design, to try to resolve the water jacket issue.  Also, the foundry had some thoughts about filling the mold, and was going to make a modification to their pouring procedure to try to addess that issue.  After a month of work, I had more sand delivered to the foundry.  The sand is shipped from the 3D print place, and up to this point there had been no issues with that, but this time the sand arrived with all the cores broken.  Crap, another delay. 

I had more cores printed, and actually went to the core manufacturer and picked up the cores myself, to make sure that they didn't get damaged in transit.  This time the cores made it up to the foundry intact, and we poured again.  The foundry tried pouring at a higher temperature, and we poured both the SE (stock exhaust) and RE (raised exhaust) versions.  Unfortunately my changes to the water jacket design on the SE head was only partially successful, there were still a couple of spots where the water jacket core broke, and came up to breach the exhaust ports. 

Nevertheless I took these castings back home to machine, because I hadn't yet machined one of the SE castings.  The RE casting looked good, so I machined one of those first, then welded up the floors of the ports in the SE casting and machined that also.  When I got finished I brought both heads in to the shop for seats, guides, and flow testing.  But the first order of business was pressure checking the RE casting, and the very unfortunate result of pouring the aluminum at a higher temperature was some casting porosity.  So, I had leaks in the cylinder head, which was a big disappointment; I hadn't had that with the first set I did last March.  Somehow we are going to have to modify the gating and sprues of the casting mold to allow us to pour at the lower temperature, while ensuring complete filling of the mold.

After the valve job, we did a flow test on the exhaust ports of both the SE and RE heads, and for a change this was a very pleasant surprise.  The RE head picked up significantly, from a peak of 234 cfm at 0.800" lift, all the way up to 277 cfm!  Now that port is flowing  like I was expecting it to.  The changes in the port design were driven primarily by the work of Joe Craine on a section of the head that I sent to him last summer, and also by my porting guy Bryan at R&R performance.

I wasn't really expecting a lot out of the SE head, but this was a pleasant surprise also.  The flow from the SE head peaked at 252 cfm.  This is almost as good as my CNC ported Blue Thunder medium riser heads, and of course those have a raised exhaust port.  The flow data from both heads was obtained with just a good valve job, and blending of the bowl under the seat.  No porting work was done.  The flow test results are below:




The foundry wanted to try one other test run of the heads, changing the pour parameters somewhat, so in the middle of November I had some more sand printed up, shipped to the foundry (no damage this time), and they poured one more SE and one more RE head.  This time the RE head looked much better, but there was still one small leak in one of the spark plug holes in the pressure test, and the SE head still broke the water jacket core under the exhaust ports.  Nevertheless I machined both of those heads, and since they are the most recent ones I will be displaying them at PRI next week.

After working with the foundry guys for the last couple of weeks, and also the pattern maker, we have a new plan going forward that we think will solve the problems I've seen this fall.  I'm planning to pour another pair of heads in January, so we will see how it all works out.  In the meantime, here are some pictures of the recent castings.  In the first photo, you can see from looking at the roof of the ports that only one of the exhaust ports on the SE head is correctly formed; the foundry is still having trouble filling the mold:








The picture below shows what the whole cylinder head package will look like:




Here is a picture of the rocker arms.  These are machined from 7075 billet aluminum.  Also in the picture is one of the special head stud nuts that will be required with these heads.  They have a different thread on the other side, for bolting to the steel bar that supports the rocker assembly (second picture).  So, the rocker assembly bolts both into the cylinder head casting, and also into the head studs.  Finally, you can see the long steel shims that will be provided with the heads to allow adjusting the height of the rockers, for optimizing rocker geometry:






Here's a picture of the SE head with the rocker assembly bolted on:




I make my apologies in advance for not having a lot of time to answer questions on this, I am completely buried in getting ready for PRI.  If you happen to be attending the show, please stop by the FE Power booth and say hi; we are in booth 4353 in the main convention hall.  Thanks, Jay

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FE Technical Forum / An old Nascar Starliner...
« on: July 24, 2019, 01:14:39 PM »
I wouldn't normally post for sale ads here, but this is a very interesting and noteworthy car.  I have it on pretty good authority that this car was a NASCAR terror back in the day, dominating its class (Sportsman Modified).  One of our forum members has also told me that everything that appears in the ad is true.  If so, the car is a real piece of history, and may actually be worth the $1M asking price.  Had an FE for a while but is currently sporting a Chrysler Hemi.  I think its pretty cool... 

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/d/rushford-1961-ford-galaxie-starliner/6930187423.html

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FE Technical Forum / Beaver Springs Coverage at fordmuscle.com
« on: May 07, 2019, 01:40:58 PM »
Nice to see some coverage of the FERR.  Battlestar Galactic looks great!

https://www.fordmuscle.com/event-coverage/eye-of-the-storm-the-beaver-springs-fe-race-and-reunion/

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Update February 8, 2021:

If you are interested in the cylinder head package, now is the time.  I will be contacting the people on my list in the next week, and then finalizing the number of the head packages that I will be building and ordering the tooling for the castings.  If you are not on the list but want to get one of the packages, you can email me at jayb@fepower.net, or give me a call at 952-428-9035.  Thanks, Jay

Update January 16, 2021:

Recent test results have proven out the new rocker arm system, and so far results have been pretty good, with over 850 HP from both head types.  Development work on the test engine will continue, to optimize it's results.  I expect to go to production within a month or so.

I am also still collecting names of people who may be interested, but my list is currently full.  However, given the current situation with so many people out of work, some folks on the list may have to cancel, so some spots may open up.  If that happens I will put interested parties on the list as the spots become available.  You can contact me via email at jayb@fepower.net, or give me a call at 952-428-9035.  There is no deposit required to get on the list, but one will be required at the time production starts, which I'm now expecting in February. Details on  package requirements, preliminary pricing and availability, and the deposit are given below.


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Package Requirements:

These cylinder heads are a significant departure from the standard FE head architecture, which is the primary reason why they perform so well (see the flow data below).  The valves are moved in the combustion chamber from the stock location, the valve angle is changed, and the intake port is raised about 1-3/8" over the stock medium riser port location.  The intake port also goes almost straight in, like a tunnel port or SOHC.  As a result of these changes, no stock FE intake manifolds will fit, no stock FE rocker arms setups will fit, stock size FE valves will not fit, and either different pistons with the valve reliefs moved, or existing pistons with new valve reliefs cut, will be required.  So, I will be offering these heads in a package to address these differences. (Note that standard FE valve covers will fit, and in most cases standard FE distributors will also fit).



Base Package - The base package will include the bare heads (no springs or valves), in either the raised exhaust (RE) or stock exhaust (SE) version, the complete rocker arm assembly, and the intake adapter to match up to the heads.  Pictures of these parts are shown below.

The following three pictures show both versions of the prototype cylinder heads, with valves assembled in some of the positions and a valve job done.  As mentioned in the thread in the technical section, as cast on the intake these heads flow 403 cfm at 0.700" lift and 416 cfm at 0.800" lift, with a port cross sectional area just 4% larger than a stock medium riser port.  Both the RE (Raised Exhaust) and SE (stock exhaust) are shown in the photos below:








The whole package for these heads, including the intake adapter and rocker arm package, is shown in the photo below.  Since this picture was taken I have redesigned the rocker arm system to be similar to the T&D rocker setup used on Blue Thunder heads.  So, the steel caps that hold the rocker shaft down in the photos below have been replaced by a bolt on each end through the rocker shaft, and the rocker arm material has been changed from aluminum to steel.  The intake rocker arm will still have a significant offset, which is required because the intake ports go straight in to the cylinder like a tunnel port or cammer, rather than hooking around towards the center of the engine. 




On the dyno in September 2020 it became clear that the aluminum intake rocker was not going to hold up, so I have redesigned the rockers in 4140 steel, and have had them investment cast as of this date.  Some pictures of the steel rockers are below, showing some as-cast units and also the fully machined units assembled on the engine. The steel rockers have nearly the same moment of inertia as the aluminum rockers did, due to much less material in the steel rockers, plus they have much better fatigue resistance than the aluminum rockers:










The next two pictures show the special intake adapter required for use with these heads, part number 13300:







Using this base package, if desired you can order your own valves, and build a sheet metal intake off the intake adapter.  When using the heads with the raised exhaust, I will also be offering a steel flange as a start to building your own headers.  Finally, the package will include intake gaskets and header gaskets.

Intake Manifolds - In case you don't want to build your own intake, I will be offering intake manifolds to fit the intake adapter from the base package.  (Note that this intake adapter will NOT allow the use of 351C intakes, it is specific to the FE Power head package.)  Four intake manifolds will be available:

     - A single four barrel manifold like the one shown below, with either a 4150 or 4500 carb flange. It will also be available with the injector holes machined and fuel rails for EFI applications.






     - Also available will be an 8V dual four barrel intake manifold, in the tunnel wedge style, with normal Ford 2X4 carb spacing.  This manifold is shown in the picture below:





     - Also offered will be a crossram individual runner EFI manifold, similar to the one pictured on the intake adapter below.  This manifold is designed to fit under the flat hood of a 67-70 Mustang, Fairlane, or Torino. The ram tubes shown on the manifold in the first picture are from Kinsler, and ones shown in the second picture are from Hilborn, and have a small bellmouth so as to fit under the hood.  The K&N air filters shown next to the intake in the second picture also can be used, and will fit under the hood.  Note that the IR manifold shown in the second, third, and fourth pictures was the first prototype; the one shown in the first picture is the current design.










Stainless Steel Valves - I will also make SS valves available, these will be 5/16" stem, 6.375" long valves, hollow stem 2.300"on the intake, solid stem 1.675" on the exhaust, both weighing in the neighborhood of 130 grams. 

Pistons - I will not be offering pistons through FE Power, but I will arrange with CP to make a basic part number available, so that custom pistons that fit the cylinder head chamber are easily obtainable.

Assembled Cylinder Heads - Finally, for anyone who wants complete assembled cylinder heads, I can make a limited number of these sets available, with a good valve job and assembled with springs.  For this option I am limited by my local cylinder head guy, so getting this done may add to the delivery time.


Preliminary Pricing and Availability:

At this time I expect to start production early in 2021.  As I'm sure you can see this project is a major undertaking, and unfortunately I can't fund the whole project out of my own pocket.  So, at the time that I start production, I will require a deposit on the base package of $2500.  I'm well aware of the issues that the FE community has experienced with deposits, such as providing a deposit and then never receiving the parts; I've been a victim of this myself.  In order to reassure potential customers, when I receive your deposit I will send you a signed document that states I have received your deposit and will make the parts available to you within one year, or your deposit will be refunded.

 The first production run will be 30 sets of heads, with the associated intake manifolds.  I'm taking five of these sets for my own cars  ;D  Please note that if there is not enough interest to generate deposits for 30 sets, FE Power will not go to production with this head package.  Also, please note that there is no commitment for a follow-on production run; I'm hopeful that I can make these cylinder head setups a running production item, but if there is too much cost or trouble building them, I may not do them again. 

Preliminary pricing is given below:

Base Package - At present I'm estimating this whole package price to be $5850.  This is about the same price as a good set of FE heads, a T&D race rocker setup, and a good intake manifold.  (I'm trying to keep these prices as competitive with existing products as possible, despite the lower production volumes).

Exhaust Flange for Raised Exhaust Port Heads - $125/pair

4V Intake Manifold - $750, additional $250 for fuel rails and injector machining

8V Intake Manifold - $1150, additional $250 for fuel rails and injector machining

Crossram Intake Manifold - $1950, includes fuel rails

Stainless Steel Valves - $550/set of 16


Again, feel free to message me on the forum, email me at jayb@fepower.net, or call at 952-428-9035 if you have questions, or would like to get on the list for a set of these cylinder heads.  Also, I'd just like to say that I appreciate the support from the forum on this project, and I hope that whoever ends up with these heads makes good use of them on the street, and at the track, by spanking the local brand X riff raff  ;D   Thanks, Jay

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FE Technical Forum / Pretty wet day at the FE Race and Reunion...
« on: April 26, 2019, 06:44:06 PM »
Rained all day, no racing, but lots of people anyway and a lot of fun stories.  The area under the FE Power canopies was a mud pit by the end of the day LOL!  Tomorrow is supposed to be dry, so hopefully there will be some good racing tomorrow, and better weather for everyone, although its supposed to be a bit on the chilly side.  Hope to see more forum members tomorrow! 

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Looking for nice straight original Ford fenders (NOT aftermarket), either side or both, no significant bodywork, dings or tweaks, no rust holes, a little surface rust is OK.  I need 68 fenders, not 67 despite their similarities.  Contact me through the messages here or email me at jayb@fepower.net.  I could pick them up at the FE Reunion, or on the way there or back from the Minneapolis area.  I'd prefer to pick them up if practical, rather than ship them.  Thanks, Jay

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Vendor Classifieds / FE Power Parts at the FE Race and Reunion
« on: April 10, 2019, 02:17:07 PM »
I will be bringing parts for sale again this year to the FE Race and Reunion.  The number of parts that we manufacture has continued to grow, though, and so I won't be bringing a whole lot of any particular part type, and its possible I may run out of things.  So, if you are interested in purchasing any FE Power parts and want to save on the shipping costs by picking them up at the FERR, please email, message, or call me with what you want to purchase.  I will put your name on it and be sure to bring it along. 

I will be bringing a random selection of aluminum pentroof valve covers, a couple sets of clear valve covers, a few intake adapters, a few timing covers, water pump adapters, books, etc.  About the only parts I won't have with me are the timing sets; we're currently out of stock on those and the delivery of the next production batch may not make it in time for me to bring them along. 

You can message me on the forum, email me at jayb@fepower.net, or call at 952-428-9035.  Thanks, Jay

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