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FE Technical Forum / Pinion angle and how much does a stock suspension move?
« on: November 19, 2016, 03:47:09 PM »
I have a hell of a vibration accelerating or decelerating with my F100, worst when I accelerate at freeway speeds or decelerate using the engine
Now, everything is new and tight. However, the combination of some of the old parts has me thinking it's a pinion angle issue.
- Crank centerline is 4 degrees down (output shaft coming out of the transfer case)
- Pinion is about 5 degrees up (almost parallel to the output, but slightly steeper)
- Driveshaft angle, is 12 degrees, one piece driveshaft relatively new yoke and spline, u-joints
Now, the springs are rebushed, truck sits fine, springs aren't junk, but I wouldn't say they are a strong point of the truck. It's an old lift kit but they do not have any spring straps or clamps holding them together front or back and my hunch is that they wrap up like a SOB when hammered hard. They are 2.25 inch springs, 24 inches in front of the center bolt, 28 behind and a stock lift block, 3 inches maybe under it?
Understanding that my pinion angle should be 2-3 degrees less steep than my output to allow it to move to parallel, and it is the opposite way, do you think at highway acceleration that either: the 1 degree from the static measurement would cause the vibration (it's pretty severe) or with no spring claps or straps the springs could be wrapping up enough to make it worse?
As I am typing this, I think I have my own answer, I think it pinion is likely wrapping up during even light acceleration, question is, would it do the same during decel?
Now, everything is new and tight. However, the combination of some of the old parts has me thinking it's a pinion angle issue.
- Crank centerline is 4 degrees down (output shaft coming out of the transfer case)
- Pinion is about 5 degrees up (almost parallel to the output, but slightly steeper)
- Driveshaft angle, is 12 degrees, one piece driveshaft relatively new yoke and spline, u-joints
Now, the springs are rebushed, truck sits fine, springs aren't junk, but I wouldn't say they are a strong point of the truck. It's an old lift kit but they do not have any spring straps or clamps holding them together front or back and my hunch is that they wrap up like a SOB when hammered hard. They are 2.25 inch springs, 24 inches in front of the center bolt, 28 behind and a stock lift block, 3 inches maybe under it?
Understanding that my pinion angle should be 2-3 degrees less steep than my output to allow it to move to parallel, and it is the opposite way, do you think at highway acceleration that either: the 1 degree from the static measurement would cause the vibration (it's pretty severe) or with no spring claps or straps the springs could be wrapping up enough to make it worse?
As I am typing this, I think I have my own answer, I think it pinion is likely wrapping up during even light acceleration, question is, would it do the same during decel?