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FE Technical Forum / Re: Mufflers
« on: March 15, 2014, 12:58:54 AM »

Exhaust choice is definitely subjective. But I have never heard an FE I didn't like :)


Gotta agree.  As someone who currently owns a strong MOD motor (5.4L, 600+ HP in my Ford GT), and a plethora of bigger, more powerful FEs, there is no comparison.  The FEs just sound a whole lot better.  I guess it just depends on what you like...

This was my reason for the "Subjective statement" I would take a finely tuned Cammed Mod motor exhaust note all day long over any FE motor. That refined high pitch sound of the exhaust mixed with a blower whine or a Turbo just screams overall performance!

Now I do appreciate that old school Rump on a old school car as well, but just like that old school car comes old school overall performance. I guess I am just more of a technology guy then a old school carbed big inch high compression strait line thumper type of guy. But the good thing is I do like them all, I just like that 1000 HP street car that I can drive to work every day if I choose too, that will go around a corner well, brake well as well as accelerate well!

When I was deciding the direction of the Bad Byrd I was so torn between keeping the car old school with a FE or slamming my Stroked DOHC blower motor in there.........................I still wonder if I made the right decision! I have 800 HP just sitting there, and 450 to 500 with the FE..........makes you wonder.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Mufflers
« on: March 14, 2014, 12:02:51 PM »
LOL

Sorry you took that as me calling you stupid, I dont have your yrs of experience that part i wont argue...........I only go back 25 yrs. here is what I do know.............there are all kinds of bad engineered race cars out there, and there are many high dollar, high end race cars with millions of dollars backing them. If you really want the low down on how to build something I would start there.

I learn things all the time, no matter what experience level I have, and I try never to spend my money on R&D when that trial and error has already been done!

So please dont take offense to my words via key board they are not meant for disrespect but more for enlightening ones eyes. I dont claim to know all, but what I do know is I dont want you or anyone here to have to hear about how I have been building cars and bikes for 25 yrs and I get more out of my stuff then anyone could imagine...................probably isnt real relevant.

Example is I have seen a guy get 225 HP out of a Yugo.................I dont about you but that didnt impress me all that much i mean it was a Yugo!

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Mufflers
« on: March 14, 2014, 11:11:46 AM »
This is what true race mufflers are for, Shoenfield, Burns stainless etc. What one perceives as high compression either does not know what high compression is or the car that has it isnt driven all the time and heat isnt as big of an issue as one might think!

I realize there are times when a muffler is bolted directly to a header, but on a street car this is bad exhaust engineering...............and one should actually inquire someone smarter then them to build a proper exhaust system to stop them from making that mistake to begin with. JMHO!

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FE Technical Forum / Lentech AOD
« on: March 14, 2014, 01:07:50 AM »
Any of you guys running the Lentech AOD, if so do you like it?

I just picked one up with a 9" converter and a transbrake, should make for some damn good launches.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Mufflers
« on: March 13, 2014, 12:19:59 PM »
I don't think I have the room in my Comet. I thought of going with a X pipe for better scavenging but the car is short. If I did go with the X pipe driveshaft clearance is another issue along with clearing the X braces I need to install to hold things together, just no room for all that.

That is always the problem with any cross over pipe Pipe situation, i assure you a really good exhaust guy could figure it out!

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Mufflers
« on: March 13, 2014, 10:22:36 AM »
Could be! ;D

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Mufflers
« on: March 13, 2014, 09:57:01 AM »
 

Personally the FE engine has one of the worst exhaust notes of any of the Big Blocks IMHO!
..Yeah I have never heard an FE I liked so I am not banking on it...

We must be listening to different FEs then :)
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Ohhhhh I am sure we are, but I have heard a lot of them, from full blown race to Street driven hopped up motors to the average Dog 390 in a truck with glass Packs. Like I said it s all subjective and whats music to my ears isnt music to someone elses.

I will say 99% of all old school car dont have that refined exhaust note I like, its just a sound that I prefer and the older generation car guy tends to like a more raw sound. When I built the wifes 32 I had 5 different Mufflers installed on that car till I found the right exhaust note.............Started with Flowmaster 40 series............sounded good OK wasnt what I was looking for, Next up was Magnaflows.............Hated them with a passion, Followed my Flowmaster hushpowers..........Awful, Hooker Aero chambers................CLOSE I mean CLOSE but something was off.

And Finally figured it out, been running them for yrs on the Lightning, The 03 Cobra but never even considered them on the Roadster and the hands down winner was Bassani.

A Bassani muffler with an X pipe is the best sounding muffler for me hands down! They just sound Pissed off! There is no room in the Bad Byrd project for this type of Muffler, so I am hoping the DR Gas Boom tube will suffice!

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Mufflers
« on: March 13, 2014, 02:29:18 AM »
Exhaust note is very subjective, Me.................I have NEVER hears a car with glasspacks that sounded good. Personally the FE engine has one of the worst exhaust notes of any of the Big Blocks IMHO! I will be doing my own rendition of an exhaust system that more then likely you have never heard.

I will be running a set of Nascar boom tubes right in front of the rear tire with Dr Gas Built in muffler system, Will it sound good..................Yeah I have never heard an FE I liked so I am not banking on it! One thing is for sure though My system will have an X pipe! This has helped with exhaust note in every car I have ever owned or built in the last 15 yrs. Best thing I can suggest no matter what muffler you run!

This is one of the best sounding FE cars I have ever heard!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ2oGNGPrw0

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: 63 Dodge max wedge clone
« on: March 11, 2014, 08:51:51 AM »
Very cool!

Being a car guy and not a named car guy I can appreciate the car and the work that went into it...................Cool stuff for sure! Looks like fun!

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: It's been a long winter here
« on: March 11, 2014, 08:48:03 AM »
Going to be 64 here today, between rain showers the Pacific Northwest is nice and everything is Green! Grew up in the Midwest Chitown actually and you all can have that snow/Cold BS! If I wasnt working so much I would be out riding the chopper on the nice days!

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FE Technical Forum / Re: EFI intake size and length?
« on: March 10, 2014, 01:08:36 PM »
So maybe a little closer to this build. He has 20 CI on you, but you have a little more compression. Same heads, similar cam, and he's running EFI.

http://fefordtech.com/index.php?topic=33.0

That is much closer to reality!

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FE Technical Forum / Re: EFI intake size and length?
« on: March 09, 2014, 01:18:55 PM »
I can see him at the 550 mark, but even at 700hp the desired CFM is way high! Different animal I get it but my mod motor put 800 + HP to the tire with a throttle body that was maxed at 1050 CFM!

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That stuff is so Cool!

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FE Technical Forum / Re: T Pan stroker Clearance
« on: March 08, 2014, 06:31:08 PM »
Remember, the FE has skirted mains, a little different than the small blocks, 385s, and pre-LS Chebbies where the crank hangs into the pan

Windages trays are certainly closer though, but even then, I haven't heard of the recent stuff hitting

I agree shouldnt be an issue, the windage tray I already have in the engine clears so that portion is good!

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FE Technical Forum / Re: T Pan stroker Clearance
« on: March 08, 2014, 03:08:32 PM »
The pan doesnt get anywhere near the crank, I run a Canton T on mine with a 4.25 arm and have done a few.  However, the crank CAN hit some windage trays.  Unlikely with yours though, its the 4.125 isn't it?

Yes it is a 4.125

Always looking for a little more then described..............mainly due to inconsistent fabrication practices on these cheaper pans I have run into in the past! If it was a Neff Pan I would concern myself with it..................but I have gotten some Moroso pans and 1 Canton pan that said it would clear a certain stroke length and it had to be worked over a little bit.

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