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Title: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: blykins on October 07, 2020, 10:04:02 AM
What's everyone's opinion on putting my 352 project into something like a 67-68 Mustang coupe?  I'm not in a hurry to find something.  I'd like to do quite a bit of dyno testing first, but eventually it needs to go in something.  I'm thinking a light weight car would compliment the 352's personality. 
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: MRadke on October 07, 2020, 10:22:30 AM
Either that or a Maverick.  Lots of mustangs out there, but not so many Mavericks.
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: RJP on October 07, 2020, 10:59:01 AM
55 or 56 Ford 2 door sedan...That would be cool.
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: frnkeore on October 07, 2020, 11:18:33 AM
You won't find anything lighter than a '60-'63 Falcon.

They are cheap and plentiful, at least on my side of the US.
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: Dan859 on October 07, 2020, 11:22:26 AM
You might want to look at at a 67 or up Falcon.  They're a little heavier than the earlier ones, but an FE is a bolt-in swap, which would make the project a lot easier/quicker.
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: e philpott on October 07, 2020, 11:47:36 AM
62 Corvette with straight axle , tilt front end and a mail box hood scoop :) then name the car " mouse trap "
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: blykins on October 07, 2020, 12:06:24 PM
Never thought about a Falcon.  Just scoping around the internet, a 66-67 isn't a bad looking ride.  What do they weigh?
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: turbohunter on October 07, 2020, 12:18:33 PM
Falcon is a great idea but ‘65.
Not as easy but damn cool looking. IMHO  :)
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: blykins on October 07, 2020, 12:19:50 PM
So an FE is a drop in on a 66-67?  Did any of them come setup for a manual trans?
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: Joe-JDC on October 07, 2020, 12:56:38 PM
Yes, the '66 Falcon used the same front end architecture as the Fairlane.  FE will bolt in with Fairlane mounts, etc.  Joe-JDC
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: frnkeore on October 07, 2020, 01:36:25 PM
The '66-'70 Falcon is a nice car, too. But, about 300 lb heavier than the early ones. The '66-70 have std trans, too.

Curiously, in '78 I had a '67 Cortina (English Ford) the front end of the Cortina, is a scaled down '66 Falcon. Makes me like the '66 Falcon more.


'66-70 Falcon
characteristic dimensions: outside length: 4681 mm / 184.3 in, width: 1859 mm / 73.2 in, wheelbase: 2819 mm / 111 in
reference weights: shipping weight 1143 kg / 2519 lbs base curb weight: 1195 kg / 2634 lbs

reference weights: shipping weight 1242 kg / 2738 lbs base curb weight: 1300 kg / 2866 lbs (heaviest 2 door)

'60-'63 Falcon
characteristic dimensions: outside length: 4602 mm / 181.2 in, width: 1781 mm / 70.1 in, wheelbase: 2781 mm / 109.5 in
reference weights: shipping weight 1035 kg / 2282 lbs base curb weight: 1084 kg / 2390 lbs

reference weights: shipping weight 1114 kg / 2455 lbs base curb weight: 1160 kg / 2557 lbs (heaviest 2 door)

You should probably add at least 350 lb to these numbers for a FE and 9" rear.
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: blykins on October 07, 2020, 02:24:12 PM
The '66-'70 Falcon is a nice car, too. But, about 300 lb heavier than the early ones. The '66-70 have std trans, too.

Curiously, in '78 I had a '67 Cortina (English Ford) the front end of the Cortina, is a scaled down '66 Falcon. Makes me like the '66 Falcon more.


'66-70 Falcon
characteristic dimensions: outside length: 4681 mm / 184.3 in, width: 1859 mm / 73.2 in, wheelbase: 2819 mm / 111 in
reference weights: shipping weight 1143 kg / 2519 lbs base curb weight: 1195 kg / 2634 lbs

reference weights: shipping weight 1242 kg / 2738 lbs base curb weight: 1300 kg / 2866 lbs (heaviest 2 door)

'60-'63 Falcon
characteristic dimensions: outside length: 4602 mm / 181.2 in, width: 1781 mm / 70.1 in, wheelbase: 2781 mm / 109.5 in
reference weights: shipping weight 1035 kg / 2282 lbs base curb weight: 1084 kg / 2390 lbs

reference weights: shipping weight 1114 kg / 2455 lbs base curb weight: 1160 kg / 2557 lbs (heaviest 2 door)

You should probably add at least 350 lb to these numbers for a FE and 9" rear.

Yep, would still be a pretty light ride and even looks a little Fairlane-ish.   I'm liking this idea better and better.   

Which 4-speed did they have?  3-speed Toploader?
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: Dan859 on October 07, 2020, 02:44:53 PM
The 4 speed was an option, so that should also be pretty easy if you're looking to put a 4 speed behind it.
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: MeanMofakee on October 07, 2020, 03:24:21 PM
Here's one that I found online. 66 Falcon Futura Sport Coupe. I've got one in the garage I hope to have this badass someday!
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: Drew Pojedinec on October 07, 2020, 03:36:17 PM
One vote for crappy pickup truck
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: mike7570 on October 07, 2020, 03:44:50 PM
I vote for an older Fairlane, my '67 coupe weighed 3100 with FE, C6 and 9".

Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: BigBlueIron on October 08, 2020, 08:33:07 AM
Shop truck.  Something you can actually use and get to enjoy at the same time.

Edit to add with a toploader. Or some sort of manual trans that's fun to shift.
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: chilly460 on October 08, 2020, 10:13:29 AM
Oddball combo needs to be in the right car :)

I like the 66-69 Falcon idea, or a 55-56 Ford. 

I know it would be a bit heavy, but ratty F100 would be cool too, being that so many 352s were truck engines. 
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: e philpott on October 08, 2020, 11:44:51 AM
Do you need/want a back seat to take the kids with you ? Obviously Mustang is always a good choice and easy to get parts , no back seat a 34 Ford would be cool too and show off the engine
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: Gregwill16 on October 08, 2020, 11:54:55 AM
I agree with shop truck so you can use it and count it off on your taxes  ;D
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: MeanMofakee on October 08, 2020, 12:06:32 PM
Here's another one with a Fairlane front end. We
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: FrozenMerc on October 08, 2020, 12:40:45 PM
I will 2nd e philpott's '34 Ford recommendation.  Lot's of options, sedan if you want a back seat or pickup for the shop truck.  Could probably find an older build with a chebbie cheap.  Throw the SBC away and install the 352!  Think a slightly subdued version of the Iron Orchid.

(https://www.hotrod.com/uploads/sites/21/2013/12/1934-ford-coupe-iron-orchid.jpg?fit=around%7C875:492)
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: blykins on October 08, 2020, 01:16:25 PM
I'm diggin the Falcon so far.  The engine is going to look '66-67 period correct, so it would fit in well. 
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: frnkeore on October 08, 2020, 01:18:07 PM
This is the way to show the engine off.

This was my best friends coupe. He kept it in my garage. We took the Olds out and put my LR in it.
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: MeanGene on October 08, 2020, 10:47:05 PM
I have a pretty solid and straight 57 Ranchero that need a new home. Was already a hot rod, got taken apart for paint and never finished. Had a souped early 390 4/spd in it, has tilt column and front discs. Stainless is there and chrome has been re-done. 57s make great hotrods- and hotrod shop trucks
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: mike7570 on October 08, 2020, 11:54:04 PM
I have a pretty solid and straight 57 Ranchero that need a new home. Was already a hot rod, got taken apart for paint and never finished. Had a souped early 390 4/spd in it, has tilt column and front discs. Stainless is there and chrome has been re-done. 57s make great hotrods- and hotrod shop trucks

^^^^^ this would be cool^^^^^^
If Brent doesn’t want it send me a PM with some pics and how much you want.
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: shady on October 09, 2020, 07:18:17 AM
'46-7 pick-up.
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: e philpott on October 09, 2020, 07:32:48 AM
Hell yah on the 57 Ranchero
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: BigBlueIron on October 09, 2020, 08:33:06 AM
I have a pretty solid and straight 57 Ranchero that need a new home. Was already a hot rod, got taken apart for paint and never finished. Had a souped early 390 4/spd in it, has tilt column and front discs. Stainless is there and chrome has been re-done. 57s make great hotrods- and hotrod shop trucks

The "tellum", you know, reverse mullet. Party in the front business in the back!! Yes!
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: WConley on October 09, 2020, 09:20:43 AM
I do love those '57 Rancheros!  Would be super cool with a patina'd company logo.
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: Joe-JDC on October 09, 2020, 10:46:03 AM
https://killeen.craigslist.org/ctd/d/salado-1966-ford-ranchero-289ci-v8/7200168779.html   

The best of both worlds.  I am sorely tempted to go look at this one for myself.  Joe-JDC
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: plovett on October 09, 2020, 11:31:43 AM
When I saw the subject line I immediately thought  '66-'69 Falcon.   Fairly light, different (like the 352 in it!) and an FE ready engine bay.   I believe Fairlane specific FE engine bay stuff will work, like headers.

Note:  Fairlane front end sheet metal supposedly bolts one, too.  I like the Falcon look, though. 

pl
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: Stangman on October 09, 2020, 01:09:37 PM
What does it entail to put an FE in it.
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: Joe-JDC on October 09, 2020, 01:51:28 PM
Fairlane motor mounts, transmission mount,  FE radiator, and transmission lines if using an auto with cooler, driveshaft, and I would install a 9" rear with at least 31 spline axles.  Just about anything that fits a mustang or fairlane that came with FE will cross over.  The motor mounts are a tricky part because of the offset for the through bolt, but again use a fairlane mount, and it bolts in.  Upgrade the front springs, sway bar, shocks, and you have a mustang in a falcon body.   Joe-JDC
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: plovett on October 09, 2020, 01:52:09 PM
What does it entail to put an FE in it.

My understanding, haven't done it, is that it's all the same as a '66-'67 Fairlane or Comet.  Same motor mounts and headers.  Someone correct me if I am wrong.

pl
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: MeanGene on October 09, 2020, 03:50:12 PM
Yeah, including shock towers. 57 has none
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: bsprowl on October 09, 2020, 08:42:40 PM
'66-'69 Falcons share the engine compartment with the Fairlanes-Comets of those years.  The Rancheros and station wagons share the same chassis but the rear springs are inset an inch or so. Any of the parts used to mount the FE in the Fairlane fits just fine.
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: urchinhead on October 10, 2020, 01:33:16 PM
Pickup Truck?

1965 FORD F-100 Twin I Beam STEPSIDE *TWO OWNERS *MINIMAL RUST *CA CAR
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cto/d/monterey-1965-ford-100-twin-beam/7197538689.html
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: bluef100fe on October 10, 2020, 08:24:57 PM
Friend of mine has a 64 falcon with a 428 in it... full cage and it weighs 3200lb I believe with 150 lb driver
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: FERoadster on October 13, 2020, 10:33:01 AM
I've got this one sitting on my trailer to sell right now. Issue is I'm having an issue getting the title straightened out.
62,000 miles I last drove it in 1972 then have stored it since.
Richard >>> FERoadster
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: winr1 on October 14, 2020, 12:27:41 AM
This ... but ya have to fly down to drive it ....  ;)




Ricky.
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: driveamerican on December 26, 2020, 02:17:07 PM
Any bowtie.
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: wowens on December 28, 2020, 06:35:06 AM
I have a pretty solid and straight 57 Ranchero that need a new home. Was already a hot rod, got taken apart for paint and never finished. Had a souped early 390 4/spd in it, has tilt column and front discs. Stainless is there and chrome has been re-done. 57s make great hotrods- and hotrod shop trucks

Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: 62Falcon390 on December 28, 2020, 10:51:17 PM
early 60s Falcon.. mines 3380 pounds though but i made it overkill
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: cammerfe on December 31, 2020, 07:10:52 AM
My '72 Pinto weighed 2240 complete with a full tube frame and cage, and an all iron 466 SCJ and a C6 and 9" Versailles rear axle. 1140 was on the back tires. (345-35 Pirellis on 12 inch Weld wheels. Used 285-40s on the front). Had a 4" chopped top.

KS
Title: Re: Been thinking about what I'd like to put the 352 in....
Post by: frnkeore on January 01, 2021, 12:52:23 PM
Got a picture of the Pinto? I'd love to see it!