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Title: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: mbrunson427 on August 25, 2020, 11:48:32 PM
Today was the day that the 428 Stroker for my Galaxie was dyno'd. I don't get any credit for the engine, this one was all Blair. I had a good idea of what I wanted for the '62 and Blair guided me into a recipe that he thought would make me happy....originally this engine was going to be topped with a 3x2 carb setup and C0AE-D heads but here's where we got to:

By the way, a personal thanks to Blair for being so patient with me, answering all my questions, and teaching me a ton along the way.

Performance Summary:
Engine Specifications:

Blue line shows long tube dyno headers, red line is a test with Tri-Y headers (because I'll be running Tri-Y's in the car)
(https://i.postimg.cc/XYvhPg6Z/62-Galaxie-Engine-Dyno-Results-Overlaid.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Dyno Videos:
https://youtu.be/O03CMVkAANc
https://youtu.be/ZAh4yyQJvY4
https://youtu.be/oVa78_PNYhA

Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: 475fetoploader on August 26, 2020, 12:08:54 AM
Very impressive
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: WConley on August 26, 2020, 01:26:56 AM
That is a beautiful thing.  Iron heads  8) 8)

Congrats to you and Blair.  That '62 is going to be such a great sleeper.  Torque to infinity and beyond!
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: cjshaker on August 26, 2020, 07:32:54 AM
Solid rollers on a hydraulic roller cam? I'm wondering if that's a typo or something actually done? I know it's been discussed at length on the forum before, but wondering the reason for doing it, if it was done.

Nice numbers, and with iron heads and an RPM intake. For a stock looking car, that nasty sounding idle is gonna be a dead give away!
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: mbrunson427 on August 26, 2020, 08:46:19 AM
Solid rollers on a hydraulic roller cam? I'm wondering if that's a typo or something actually done?

Doug, not a typo. This is something that he swayed me towards. I had originally sent him down a set of hydraulic rollers.
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: drdano on August 26, 2020, 09:36:17 AM
That '62 is going to be fantastic with that motor.  Really nice to see the Tri-Y headers also on the dyno, thats a great data point.  Any additional details on the cam specs?
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: e philpott on August 26, 2020, 11:44:36 AM
Beautiful !! sounds great ! It's hard to believe it's a cast iron head with those numbers , dang that's impressive
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: 6667fan on August 26, 2020, 12:47:13 PM
Very nice, can you share compression ratio and spring pressures, ( if they are not proprietary)?

JB
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: Joe-JDC on August 26, 2020, 04:02:42 PM
Sounds strong.  Where was it dyno'ed at?  Joe-JDC
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: mbrunson427 on August 26, 2020, 06:15:00 PM
Very nice, can you share compression ratio and spring pressures, ( if they are not proprietary)?
JB
Sorry, should have included compression. 10.17:1. Intended to run on pump gas. Spring pressures I don't have a clue.

Any additional details on the cam specs?
I don't know much more than that, judging by the way it idles, I think Blair pulled a fast one on me and gave it some more duration ;D The car doesn't have power brakes so vacuum was less of a concern.

Sounds strong.  Where was it dyno'ed at?  Joe-JDC
That's a nice bit of skepticism there Joe (if I'm picking up on it right). Go back and study Blair's 400 cube EMC entry, and then extrapolate out a 65 cubic inch add and some other variations (like intake).....After all, nobody in the contest doubted the validity of that dyno.
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: frnkeore on August 26, 2020, 07:09:21 PM
Very, very nice!

What carb are you going to run on it?
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: Joe-JDC on August 26, 2020, 09:40:59 PM
Simple question, just curious where your dyno is located.  If it is a secret, then I can live with that.  BTW, I was there at the EMC.  Joe-JDC
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: frnkeore on August 27, 2020, 01:26:54 PM
I note that you show a pair of the old, cast iron Ford tri-Y's, in your Project thread. Are those the ones that you will use in the car, or the ones pictured on the dyno?

It might be very interesting to see what they(cast iron) would do to the engine on the dyno.
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: chilly460 on August 27, 2020, 02:23:44 PM
I note that you show a pair of the old, cast iron Ford tri-Y's, in your Project thread. Are those the ones that you will use in the car, or the ones pictured on the dyno?

It might be very interesting to see what they(cast iron) would do to the engine on the dyno.

Jay and Barry have both done back to back tests with the cast manifolds. 
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: frnkeore on August 27, 2020, 03:15:59 PM
Does anyone have a link to the tests or, know the approx date?

I had a set, that I got with my LR. They were the first thing that went to the scrape pile ('68/'69 era) but, only because of how much they weighed. I always wondered how well they worked.
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: mbrunson427 on August 27, 2020, 03:20:42 PM
I note that you show a pair of the old, cast iron Ford tri-Y's, in your Project thread. Are those the ones that you will use in the car, or the ones pictured on the dyno?

It might be very interesting to see what they(cast iron) would do to the engine on the dyno.

Those are up for reconsideration at this point. I was fine putting 500 horse through them but not sure if I'm ok putting 600. One of them got screwed up at the machine shop anyhow when I had the flanges flattened, so I had to buy another drivers side manifold that hasn't been coated yet.

Simple question, just curious where your dyno is located.

Joe, dyno is Jim Morgans. Blair is doing testing there until he has his own built.
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: Joe-JDC on August 27, 2020, 09:40:42 PM
Frank, if you go to page 3 of the dyno results, item 2 is Barry's 2017 FE with both headers and cast manifolds at the EMC.  Joe-JDC
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: frnkeore on August 28, 2020, 01:45:04 AM
Thank you, Joe.
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: 427HISS on May 29, 2021, 12:51:35 PM
I want this engine specs, but with my stacked EFI and aluminum heads.
What are the cam specs ?
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: mbrunson427 on June 01, 2021, 12:29:04 PM
I want this engine specs, but with my stacked EFI and aluminum heads.
What are the cam specs ?

It's a bullet cam. Hydraulic roller cam with solid roller lifter installed on it. It's one of Blair's cam grinds that he uses on a few different things (not a 100% custom grind). If you call him I'm sure he'll sell you one. At idle it's pretty choppy. I'm not sure how happy it will be with your individual runner setup. From what I have read it seems those require more lobe separation.
Title: Re: BP 428CJ Stroker - 465 Cubes
Post by: CaptCobrajet on June 04, 2021, 08:35:54 PM
Mike is correct.  Lobe sep needs to be totally different for IR.  I usually have cams made from round lobe cores for stack injected apps.  What you really need won't fit on standard shelf cam cores.