FE Power Forums

FE Power Forums => FE Technical Forum => Topic started by: chris401 on May 16, 2019, 11:55:26 PM

Title: Full And Intermediate Engine Codes
Post by: chris401 on May 16, 2019, 11:55:26 PM
From a couple of books I have. Feel free to add the ones I am missing.

Title: Re: Full And Intermediate Engine Codes
Post by: Falcon67 on May 17, 2019, 08:31:42 AM
I've got motor manuals from 1932 through 1988.  Someday intend to compile that into an online database.  Especially the 1960-1974 stuff.  Lotsa work though.  Just posting page shots of copyrighted material could be iffy IMHO.
Title: Re: Full And Intermediate Engine Codes
Post by: WerbyFord on May 17, 2019, 11:42:22 AM
So it looks like Motors does NOT show the SOHC, but Rotunda DOES show the SOHC?

Of course Motors shows the 1968 R-code 427 so who knows what info they got.

I looked in my 1967 Ford Shop Manuals, no reference to SOHC in there.
Those same shop manuals show the 324-324 cam in all 427's, 4v and 8v, big car and unibody, for 1967.
(Some sources show the smaller 306-306 cam in the 4v or unibody cars, and they all have .500 net lift so the confusion lives on).
They also show the 390GT cam as 270-270 duration (not 270-290) but .481 .490 lift. Hmmm....

I wouldn't worry too much about the copyright thing for what we are doing here, there is an exception for research & academic purposes which I think is what we are doing here. I don't see any of us making money from old SOHC engine codes.

EDIT 27 May:
Ok I thought it was just my shop manuals but I found the SOHC codes. They're in the FRONT of the book, but are not listed in the engine section, maybe because they weren't ever factory in a car?
1965 (1st print Sep 1964)
L=SOHC-4v
M=SOHC-8v
1966
none listed
1967
L=SOHC-4v
D=SOHC-8v
1968
none listed (as if!)

Why did the SOHC get dropped for 1966 but re-appear (in the book at least) in 1967?
Title: Re: Full And Intermediate Engine Codes
Post by: chris401 on May 26, 2019, 11:55:22 AM
From a couple of books I have. Feel free to add the ones I am missing.
I am kind of surprised none of the experts have posted there sources. The 1965 Ford Shop Manual DOES have the M code 2 X 4 SOHC engine listed.
Title: Re: Full And Intermediate Engine Codes
Post by: Mistral_427TP on May 26, 2019, 12:34:54 PM
My 1967 Ford, Meteor and Mercury Shop Manual shows M code as 8 cyl 410 4V
                                                                                 L code as 8 cyl 427 4V SOHC
                                                                          AND D code as 8 cyl 427 8V SOHC

Title: Re: Full And Intermediate Engine Codes
Post by: chris401 on May 26, 2019, 12:48:41 PM
My 1967 Ford, Meteor and Mercury Shop Manual shows M code as 8 cyl 410 4V
                                                                                 L code as 8 cyl 427 4V SOHC
                                                                          AND D code as 8 cyl 427 8V SOHC
I have seen that also. The new for 65 is different.
Title: Re: Full And Intermediate Engine Codes
Post by: chris401 on May 28, 2019, 09:51:35 PM
So it looks like Motors does NOT show the SOHC, but Rotunda DOES show the SOHC?

Of course Motors shows the 1968 R-code 427 so who knows what info they got.

I looked in my 1967 Ford Shop Manuals, no reference to SOHC in there.
Those same shop manuals show the 324-324 cam in all 427's, 4v and 8v, big car and unibody, for 1967.
(Some sources show the smaller 306-306 cam in the 4v or unibody cars, and they all have .500 net lift so the confusion lives on).
They also show the 390GT cam as 270-270 duration (not 270-290) but .481 .490 lift. Hmmm....

I wouldn't worry too much about the copyright thing for what we are doing here, there is an exception for research & academic purposes which I think is what we are doing here. I don't see any of us making money from old SOHC engine codes.

EDIT 27 May:
Ok I thought it was just my shop manuals but I found the SOHC codes. They're in the FRONT of the book, but are not listed in the engine section, maybe because they weren't ever factory in a car?
1965 (1st print Sep 1964)
L=SOHC-4v
M=SOHC-8v
1966
none listed
1967
L=SOHC-4v
D=SOHC-8v
1968
none listed (as if!)

Why did the SOHC get dropped for 1966 but re-appear (in the book at least) in 1967?
The one I looked at waa red and had the M code with all the other engines. How many times were the shop manuals reprinted per year?
Title: Re: Full And Intermediate Engine Codes
Post by: 67428GT500 on May 28, 2019, 10:51:39 PM
I have both 1967 and 68. Neither showed the fabled M code as a 427 SOHC. Did you find any service information for the cammer in your books? None in mine at all. It does cover the 427 though.
                                   -Keith
Title: Re: Full And Intermediate Engine Codes
Post by: chris401 on July 14, 2019, 09:57:59 AM
Wake up people, you can do better than this.

EDIT 11/22/2019: Found this on another post
It is exactly the M code 427 2x4 SOHC engine I saw in the shop manual.