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Title: One bad mofo...
Post by: chilly460 on January 30, 2019, 04:34:32 PM
This thing is just perfect.  Make sure to watch the vid, looks like it's still a handful even as he pulls 4th.  Wonder what it'd run if he could keep his foot in it. 

https://bangshift.com/bangshift1320/morning-symphony-a-427-cammer-powered-1955-ford-gasser-being-driven-in-hate/?fbclid=IwAR3_wSwBmrWoNML6DRSMdYRs_uHxPdpP5fo2qA62cRvAdhoIA3GndiPK-4M
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Post by: 427LX on January 30, 2019, 04:52:00 PM
Wow that's a handful!
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Post by: turbohunter on January 30, 2019, 05:10:10 PM
That’s one of those perfect cars.
Really sweet.
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Post by: Stangman on January 30, 2019, 06:47:09 PM
Funny I was just watching this video yesterday morning and was wishing I could post it. I’m thinking 8.80 car all out I don’t see why not
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Post by: babybolt on January 30, 2019, 07:56:15 PM
Wonder what manual trans he is running.

At about the 0.54 sec into the video you can see the right rear wheel hop up off the track.

The red tinted hood scoop is killer.
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Post by: ec164 on January 30, 2019, 09:08:31 PM
Pretty cool car, sounds great, and appears to be a Real handful! Watching the video it appears to weigh what 24 or 2500 w/driver, it definitely 60 foots..             Al
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Post by: Joe-JDC on January 30, 2019, 10:12:48 PM
First time I saw Hubert Platt run a '68 Mustang fastback with Tunnel Port, he had the track to himself.  That mustang jumped two feet sideways on every gear change just like that '55.  Good thing he had the track to himself, he was all over it until he got the car sorted out for time trials.   That '55 would be solid in the 8's with a good C-4.   Joe-JDC
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Post by: TomP on January 31, 2019, 12:27:40 AM
Wow is that ever cool. A 9.05 at 138 is indicating a early shutoff so an 8 second car quite easily. That Cammer is making some power!
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Post by: Heo on January 31, 2019, 08:35:20 PM
Love the car. I would have done a nicer job
to the rear wheel openings though
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Post by: Royce on January 31, 2019, 09:19:26 PM
I have watched this car progress from half built to what it is now.. he runs at the Meltdown drags at Byron for the past few years.. .. The first year out it was not very impressive but he sure has it dialed in now.. He put a lot of scrub powered gassers to shame..  Great name for the car !
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Post by: BattlestarGalactic on February 01, 2019, 08:53:20 AM
I watched the video the other day.  Notice the really poor chassis set up and the rear wheels bouncing off the ground.

I agree, could be into the 8's real easy with some chassis tuning.  The top end looks real scary as it is dancing around pretty bad.

Transmission is likely a Jerico or maybe a Gforce 4 spd
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Post by: Royce on February 01, 2019, 09:16:33 AM
My buddy saw the video and proposes we name his car the FEarlane. Except his has a 260 auto  LOL
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Post by: shady on February 01, 2019, 09:29:11 AM
he could call it Fairlame.
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Post by: Royce on February 01, 2019, 09:53:22 AM
LOL!  You nailed it.
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Post by: Falcon67 on February 01, 2019, 10:18:24 AM
Fun to watch - maybe not so fun to drive.  Lot of chassis loading/unloading going on there.  Goes pretty straight but wouldn't take much to upset it IMHO.  Very cool car.
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Post by: e philpott on February 01, 2019, 10:28:54 AM
I watched the video the other day.  Notice the really poor chassis set up and the rear wheels bouncing off the ground.

I agree, could be into the 8's real easy with some chassis tuning.  The top end looks real scary as it is dancing around pretty bad.

Transmission is likely a Jerico or maybe a Gforce 4 spd

that's a license run early on the car is dialed in much better now , many videos on South East Gassers  facebook group on this car , they are also restricted to what suspension you can run like NO modern 4 links or Ladder bar set ups and restricted on engine set ups mainly nostalgia stuff like no big chief heads for BBC's and stuff like that has to be era correct , 1967 and older with 64 and 65 Mustang along with 64,5,and 6 Barrecuda are the only Pony cars allowed , it's really a pretty nice group of cars that run in the SEGA
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Post by: Machspeed on February 01, 2019, 01:12:04 PM
I watched the video the other day.  Notice the really poor chassis set up and the rear wheels bouncing off the ground.

I agree, could be into the 8's real easy with some chassis tuning.  The top end looks real scary as it is dancing around pretty bad.

Transmission is likely a Jerico or maybe a Gforce 4 spd


It has a G Force 101A transmission. Some of the details are in the video description.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyfg5w8HVkM



I talked to some of the Southeastern Guys Last year at an event where they were doing some exhibition runs. I think this may have changed since last year but I found it interesting that some of classes had somewhat of a weight penalty for using an FE. Penalty may not be the best word to use but the weight(lbs) per cubic inch was definitely higher than some of the other big block engine choices.




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Post by: BattlestarGalactic on February 01, 2019, 02:41:11 PM


that's a license run early on the car is dialed in much better now , many videos on South East Gassers  facebook group on this car , they are also restricted to what suspension you can run like NO modern 4 links or Ladder bar set ups and restricted on engine set ups mainly nostalgia stuff like no big chief heads for BBC's and stuff like that has to be era correct , 1967 and older with 64 and 65 Mustang along with 64,5,and 6 Barrecuda are the only Pony cars allowed , it's really a pretty nice group of cars that run in the SEGA

I noticed the license run on the window.  Though it was getting way out of shape at the top end and I wondered if he was going to do full 1/4 mile.

Shocks will do A LOT. Even with minimal traction devices.  It was way too stiff, along with too much clutch.   Glad to hear he has it set up now, it was way too out of shape.  I like wheelstands, but at having to steer it that hard at 130+ mph is not fun.
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Post by: plovett on February 01, 2019, 05:59:02 PM
I really REALLY don't like Gassers.  They look to be so non-functional.  Let's put the nose in the air and make this high-powered car really unstable.  What the fork? 

Okay, okay,  Skairlane is still really cool.  ….and way faster than my car.  :)

JMO,

paulie
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Post by: Royce on February 02, 2019, 09:30:45 AM
With the nostalgia gasser craze it's all about the show..Out of shape, stupid wheel stands, edge of control runs are what draws a crowd and keeps the tracks bringing them back..It's the equivalent of Jet Car exhibitions.. At the Meltdown I refuse to line up against cars that I know will be out of control
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Post by: BattlestarGalactic on February 03, 2019, 03:17:24 PM
Agree, the only thing that brings crowds in to see the show is the "What if" situation.  That is why they show up in packs to see those 10.5" tire cars try to go near 200 mph.

My friend wants to build a '54 Custom to mimic what his dad had back in the day.  He doesn't really want to go 8's.  Even in the 10's is plenty fast enough.

I've had thoughts of putting a straight axle under my 2 dr.  Not going to cut the wheel wells open, but I do like the straight axle look, especially with my blower sticking above the roofline.
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Post by: 57 lima bean on February 10, 2019, 10:43:31 PM
With the nostalgia gasser craze it's all about the show..Out of shape, stupid wheel stands, edge of control runs are what draws a crowd and keeps the tracks bringing them back..It's the equivalent of Jet Car exhibitions.. At the Meltdown I refuse to line up against cars that I know will be out of control
   

    S.E.G.A. Rules...Nostalgia Suspension   http://nebula.wsimg.com/ae0d02b5daafd04e04a518a7c2ad921d?AccessKeyId=ED5E25D836D1E67A5096&disposition=0&alloworigin=1
Title: Re: One bad mofo...
Post by: C8OZ on February 11, 2019, 12:35:43 AM
Life needs more rules like this. "If your car goes 6.50 or better in the 1/8 mile, the front tires must be at least 15 inches off the ground on the launch or on gear change."
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Post by: machoneman on February 11, 2019, 08:02:35 AM
One more maybe, maybe not  small thing.

Note how the front wheels turn to the side after the launch but before touchdown. This could be a disaster on an aborted run (where the wheels are cocked and puts him into a guardrail although not so much at Rockford). He needs to paint a stripe or use white tape on the top of the steering wheel and keep same at the 12 o'clock position.   

2x too on lots of chassis & shock tuning!
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Post by: Royce on February 11, 2019, 09:44:39 AM
Finally someone recognizes this phenomen as an actual disease..  On par with Ebola if you ask me   

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If the Chevy 2 epidemic within the SEGA continues to get worse, all Chevy 2 will have a 1” increase
in ride height, both front and rear, over the other cars of the same wheelbase.
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Post by: 57 lima bean on February 11, 2019, 10:03:18 AM
And of course this one..."No Camaros– Any model year".Really enjoyed reading these rules.Spot on C80Z.Life does need more of this.
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Post by: mbrunson427 on February 11, 2019, 11:23:42 AM
With the nostalgia gasser craze it's all about the show..Out of shape, stupid wheel stands, edge of control runs are what draws a crowd and keeps the tracks bringing them back..It's the equivalent of Jet Car exhibitions.. At the Meltdown I refuse to line up against cars that I know will be out of control

There used to be a local guy here in Colorado with a red 56 or 57 Chevy named "Ketchup" and a yellow 59 or 60 Impala named "Mustard". Ketchup seemed to run low 10's, Mustard however was a blown alcohol injected big block that was nuts. I never saw him make a clean pass in Mustard, but it didn't matter because when he left the line the front frame rails were about 90 degrees to the rear end and it used every square inch of track. When he ran people would line up at the fence just to have a laugh, it was a lot of fun to watch. I don't think they let him run against anyone generally, was more of an exhibition thing, exactly the type of deal you're describing.

Edit: I found a video of the car. Seems to be tamed down a bit in this video, but you'll get the idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AiF3yCNCTc
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Post by: BattlestarGalactic on February 11, 2019, 01:16:14 PM
One more maybe, maybe not  small thing.

Note how the front wheels turn to the side after the launch but before touchdown. This could be a disaster on an aborted run (where the wheels are cocked and puts him into a guardrail although not so much at Rockford). He needs to paint a stripe or use white tape on the top of the steering wheel and keep same at the 12 o'clock position.   


See many wheelstanding cars that the driver things he can steer when the wheels aren't on the ground. 
Most likely they have their left hand on the wheel, too high up, when launching they lean back and turn the wheel.  Not a good thing when it comes down.
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Post by: C8OZ on February 11, 2019, 01:21:37 PM
Some of the simplest/best advice an old-timer gave me when I first started racing a 4-speed Fairlane, "Jam your left elbow into the armrest."
Served me well.