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FE Power Forums => FE Technical Forum => Topic started by: unclewill on January 17, 2019, 08:46:42 PM
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Has anyone ever seen a 428 with D2TEAA heads?
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Has anyone ever seen a 428 with D2TEAA heads?
They wouldn't have been on a passenger car 428 - the D2TE-AA heads didn't start to get used until the 1972 model year, which started in the fall of calendar year 1971, and 428's were no longer being used in cars.
What is the date code of the 428 block and what are the date codes of the heads?
There were industrial 428's, but I haven't seen where anyone has documented what heads they found on them, nor have I seen any documentation of when Ford stopped selling new 428 industrial engines.
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D2 is 1972. The last year of the 428 was 70. So The heads wouldn't be on any factory application.
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428 irrigation engines were built at least through 1974, so those heads could have been put on an irrigation engine...
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I have an irrigation engine, a 428-2v it has FT heads w/o sodium filled valves (3/8" stems)
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Wondering because of that '64 Galaxie on BaT?
Has anyone ever seen a 428 with D2TEAA heads?
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Yes, the Galaxie on BaT is why I’m asking. It’s a C6 block with D2 heads. Steve Christ references D2 heads on non-air 428s but the date codes don’t add up. The seller also said it had dished pistons which threw up another red flag for me. If it is a stationary power unit it would be a ribbed block no?
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Keep in mind that just because it's wearing D2TE heads now, doesn't mean it left Ford that way originally. One may wonder about the choice of heads when it was last assembled, but who knows? Maybe the builder had confidence in those heads, and his ability to work them over, or maybe he just used what was on hand.
Unfortunately, no one will know the specs on that engine without tearing it down. Even if the seller came up with a build sheet, that would still be no guarantee of what's in the car. You'd only know through a tear down. The upside is at least you know it's an A scratch block, but beyond that...
Yes, the Galaxie on BaT is why I’m asking. It’s a C6 block with D2 heads. Steve Christ references D2 heads on non-air 428s but the date codes don’t add up. The seller also said it had dished pistons which threw up another red flag for me. If it is a stationary power unit it would be a ribbed block no?
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If it is a stationary power unit it would be a ribbed block no?
Not necessarily. I bought 19 of those 428 blocks from a guy out west a couple years ago, and IIRC 5 of them were not ribbed. One even had a C scratch on it, and one had an A scratch.
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Yes, the Galaxie on BaT is why I’m asking. It’s a C6 block with D2 heads. Steve Christ references D2 heads on non-air 428s but the date codes don’t add up. The seller also said it had dished pistons which threw up another red flag for me. If it is a stationary power unit it would be a ribbed block no?
The ribs on a FE/FT block are simply a matter of time, and which foundry they were cast at - the ribs were on DIF ( Dearborn Iron Foundry ) cast blocks, and started sometime around the 1971 calendar year until the end of DIF production in the mid '70's. So like Jay said, the blocks could be either ribbed or plain.
There are a few mistakes, and more commonly omissions, in the Steve Christ book, and all the subsequent published & online FE casting lists that copied it. It's one of the biggest problems we fight with people trying to figure out their FE/FT, just take it's info as kind of a helpful first step, and not gospel.
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Has anyone ever seen a 428 with D2TEAA heads?
Yeah...The 428 in my 66 Galaxie Q code. I ran D2 heads on that engine for years. They had a little work done using 2.09"/1.65" SS valves with hard ex. seats and a 5 angle valve job. They worked good for the intended use of street/highway only. From the factory?...No
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Thanks for the info guys!