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Title: Ready for some dyno time
Post by: BattlestarGalactic on February 14, 2022, 02:45:58 PM
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Valve covers bead blasted and matte clear coated, valves set, intake on, carb linkage adjusted, filled with oil and primed.  Just waiting on gaskets for the 660's to show up as I pulled one apart and the gaskets were ugly.  Glad I decided to do something before we found out on dyno day that they leaked like the Titanic.  You can see one sitting on the parts washer in the back.  I flat filed both sides as it was lumpy as all get out.

I did buy a fresh set of YELLOW Accel super stock 8mm wires.  I had been running a set of red Accel 8.8 wires that I won some years back.  They just didn't look right.  The new blue cap also kinda helps with the 70's vibe.  Just missing the old Accel Super Coil!

I haven't been in a big hurry to haul it to the shop because of all the snow we've had in the last month.  It is going to be 55* on Wednesday so the area in front of the garage will be cleaned up enough to get the crane out there to load the engine.  I also am in process of building a set of "Moto Feet" for it.  I have the plates made, just need to cut and weld the tubing.  I have always borrowed a set from the shop, so after 30 yrs I decided to build my own.
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Post by: Sand hauler on February 14, 2022, 05:16:16 PM
Very very nice 👍. Good luck with the results
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Post by: galaxiex on February 14, 2022, 08:16:29 PM
I assume that's going in the wagon?

Looks like it's gonna haul ass.
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Post by: 1968galaxie on February 14, 2022, 10:48:01 PM
What is under the cleveland tunnel ram and Jay's adapter?
I recall you had a 496" engine previously.
I assume solid roller cam, 13:1 CR etc...

Looking fantastic!!!!!
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Post by: Stangman on February 14, 2022, 11:10:03 PM
I thought you did this set up Larry. Are you trying something new
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Post by: BattlestarGalactic on February 15, 2022, 05:22:54 AM
Yes, same 496, 12.5/1, small roller, stock TF heads.  Just wanted a tunnel ram.  It made 675 hp before with tunnel wedge on it.  Hope to pick up a few HP.
Title: Re: Ready for some dyno time
Post by: Val406 on February 15, 2022, 04:20:58 PM
That's a beautiful piece Larry... there is NO WAY the hood will close on it as it sits. I assume the velocity stacks are for dyno time only? Good luck, Val.
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Post by: Stangman on February 15, 2022, 09:45:10 PM
well good luck then Larry.
How about 23 HP.
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Post by: FERoadster on February 15, 2022, 10:00:51 PM
I've got a new Supercoil out here in Oregon. It's a big square thing still in the box if I remember correctly, will check tomorrow.
 Interesting trade stuff?
 My nostalgia FE has either a Grant-Spaulding or a Joe Hunt Mag. I've got both but can't decide which.
Richard >>> FERoadster
Title: Re: Ready for some dyno time
Post by: FERoadster on February 15, 2022, 10:42:02 PM
OK to make sure my mind isn't failing as much as others say, 73 years young. Decided to take a look just now. I knew exactly where it was with about 10 Mallory Accel and Pertronix distributors. It seems to be a kit still in the box. New coil, points? condenser and resistor also a short black wire. I'll get a picture tomorrow 7 AM Oregon time.
Richard
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Post by: cjshaker on February 15, 2022, 10:51:04 PM
Darn you, Larry. Stealing my thunder!  ;)
That's the same setup I hope to be putting in my car this year, a tunnel ram with velocity stacks sticking through the hood. Been in the making for the last few years, but should come together finally this year. I think "the look" is absolutely unbeatable. I think you'll be pleasantly rewarded with what you're after. Good luck!

BTW, the tach drive distributor is super cool. Where did you come up with the tach from? Did you find the whole match together? They're not easy to find.
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Post by: FERoadster on February 16, 2022, 02:11:10 AM
Doug: looks like a polished Mallory Tach drive to me. Blue cap is a puzzle?
I do have a couple of the distributers like that but my only Tach is from a truck and maxes at 5K. LOL
I do have 2 "cough" Corvette 1960's tach's but to my understanding only Smith's from Cobra's were friendly with Fords.
Richard
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Post by: Heo on February 16, 2022, 03:06:31 AM
Darn you, Larry. Stealing my thunder!  ;)
That's the same setup I hope to be putting in my car this year, a tunnel ram with velocity stacks sticking through the hood. Been in the making for the last few years, but should come together finally this year. I think "the look" is absolutely unbeatable. I think you'll be pleasantly rewarded with what you're after. Good luck!

BTW, the tach drive distributor is super cool. Where did you come up with the tach from? Did you find the whole match together? They're not easy to find.

Doug, Are you looking for a tach? I have two Moroso mecanical tachs somwere when i find both you can have one of them
i dont need two. Can take a while to find them ,i cleaning up after my dads collecting now so.......
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Post by: BattlestarGalactic on February 16, 2022, 11:59:07 AM
Richard,  Thanks.  Not sure if I will actually go with a Super coil?  Maybe.  I run a Unilite conversion in my old YL mallory tach drive, so no points.  A mag would be sure cool to run.  But that is for another day.

I've had the tach drive Mallory in the car for decades(I bought it at Ford Expo way back).  Started with a YC model, then got the YL a few years later.  Did convert it to Unilite some years back also.  I also locked it out some time back.  I have an MSD start retard to make it easy to spin over.

The last tach drive(crab cap version) I bought for the black car came from Dan Parson's.  I needed the short version(like the wagon has).  The std tach drive(crab cap) that is used in FE boat motors is too tall for the blower(they are about 1 1/2" taller overall then the short version).  Dan just happen to have the version I needed, along with cable and tach.  I have a couple tachs on the bench I bought on Ebay.  Cables are easy to come by, I bought a custom made one for the black car from a guy in the midwest(name escapes me now).  Any length, any kind of cable, with any end, reasonable and quick turnaround.

The BLUE cap is available from Mallory.  I wanted black, but blue is better then the red one.  They offer black caps, but not for a "old" YL.  A tan one would match an Accel distributor from back then.

I have a flat hood on order from Crites(should be coming this month?).  I don't want to cut up the teardrop.  The stacks will be run on the car.
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Post by: shady on February 16, 2022, 02:26:01 PM
I see the curtains match the carpeting, the super coil would fit into the program nicely.
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Post by: cjshaker on February 16, 2022, 03:10:30 PM
The lastest tach drive(crab cap version) I bought for the black car came from Dan Parson's.  I needed the short version(like the wagon has).  The std tach drive(crab cap) that is used in FE boat motors is too tall for the blower.  Dan just happen to have the version I needed, along with cable and tach.  I have a couple tachs on the bench I bought on Ebay.  Cables are easy to come by, I bought a custom made one for the black car from a guy in the midwest(name escapes me now).


Is that Parsons out of Cridersville? A couple of well known local FE guys back when I was a kid. Pretty sure he still has an FE powered '56.
I guess I didn't notice the cable drive tach whenever I looked at your car. I pretty much stay away from Ebay these days.
That cap looks like a standard Ford, but must be different. The FT, as far as I know, looks to be the same as a standard Ford cap. Something I'll have to look into a bit more. If you happen to think of the guys name that you got the cable from, shoot me a message. I'd appreciate it. And the stacks complete the look, so I planned on keeping them on also, although I've wondered about airflow into them at speed. Something you'll just have to test for, or just accept what it is. It's not like you're running a heads up class or anything.

Doug, Are you looking for a tach? I have two Moroso mecanical tachs somwere when i find both you can have one of them
i dont need two. Can take a while to find them ,i cleaning up after my dads collecting now so.......

Heo, I'll PM you. I have an FT distributor with the cable drive that I wondered if I could use. Might not be the most sensible way to go, but I like mechanical stuff over electronic.
Title: Re: Ready for some dyno time
Post by: BattlestarGalactic on February 16, 2022, 03:15:52 PM
That's a beautiful piece Larry... there is NO WAY the hood will close on it as it sits. I assume the velocity stacks are for dyno time only? Good luck, Val.

Test fit before I pulled the engine...

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Title: Re: Ready for some dyno time
Post by: BattlestarGalactic on February 16, 2022, 03:18:46 PM

Is that Parsons out of Cridersville? A couple of well known local FE guys back when I was a kid. Pretty sure he still has an FE powered '56.
I guess I didn't notice the cable drive tach whenever I looked at your car. I pretty much stay away from Ebay these days.
That cap looks like a standard Ford, but must be different. The FT, as far as I know, looks to be the same as a standard Ford cap. Something I'll have to look into a bit more. If you happen to think of the guys name that you got the cable from, shoot me a message. I'd appreciate it. And the stacks complete the look, so I planned on keeping them on also, although I've wondered about airflow into them at speed. Something you'll just have to test for, or just accept what it is. It's not like you're running a heads up class or anything.


Dan is out of Bellwood, PA.  He is at the FE events with a couple cars.  He supplies the beer for Friday Beer/Brats.

I do remember YOUR tunnel ram set up.  Polished to a TEE and just a crown jewel!  I'm going for the rugged "poor man" look.  LOL!!!

I kinda wondered about air flow at 130 mph and if it will actually pull fuel away and splash it on the windshield?  Time will tell.

A stock cap might fit, but Mallory uses a small pin to locate it not a large notch like a stock cap.  The distributor diameter might be different also?  I know it changes between std cap and crab cap because they are NOT interchangeable.
Title: Re: Ready for some dyno time
Post by: BattlestarGalactic on March 07, 2022, 10:26:41 PM
I put my dyno information in the dyno forum so if you are interested look here...

http://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=10842.0
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Post by: 1968galaxie on March 07, 2022, 11:17:46 PM
Great looking car!!!!
Some in car videos will be fantastic to see (and hear) when you get to the track - or street for tuning.
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Post by: BattlestarGalactic on March 08, 2022, 04:13:12 PM
No street testing.


New motor(without tunnel ram)/transmission
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds3d4aj1lig

Old motor/transmission
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdykqOiXxns
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Post by: Thumperbird on March 08, 2022, 04:52:44 PM
What am I doing wrong?
I'm logged in and do not see any paper clips or images, links are there.
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Post by: XR7 on March 09, 2022, 04:43:58 PM
Hey Larry, engine is looking good! I haven't checked your dyno post out yet but will shortly. I did happen to see a glimpse of a Liberty Equalizer trans in front of the wagon. Looks like you have more changes you didn't mention? Spill the beans... LOL!
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Post by: BattlestarGalactic on March 13, 2022, 06:30:50 PM
That was last winters upgrade!  I knew the new power was going to be tougher and tougher on that GF5R.  It was time to get something stronger.

 I have pictures of the cutting and hacking it took to get it in there!
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Post by: babybolt on March 13, 2022, 08:36:28 PM
Those valve covers are worth 10 hp on looks alone.
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Post by: BattlestarGalactic on March 14, 2022, 10:45:41 AM
Just my old Cal Customs that I blasted and clear coated.  Would love to find a set of gold Moroso! 
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Post by: TomP on March 14, 2022, 04:41:32 PM
Not aware Moroso ever made any FE ones. I think just the Windsor, Cleveland and the 460 ones that look like a BB Chev..

 You could make some, cut the centers out of SBC Moroso steel valve covers and weld them into some FE ones..
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Post by: BattlestarGalactic on March 15, 2022, 11:24:32 AM
Likely they didn't but thought they would look the part on it.
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Post by: MeanGene on March 16, 2022, 02:54:52 PM
I think I have a set of MILODONs