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Title: What is the new wideband tuner of choice these days?
Post by: cleandan on April 20, 2021, 08:16:10 AM: Hello all.
I am in the market to replace my Innovate LM1 wideband tuner and would like to know what people think of any newer offerings.

The LM1 I had was getting 20+ years old, but it worked as it should.
This makes me pretty sure tech has altered these things over that time span.

I would like something simple, easy, and fairly direct, although useful features are not out of the question.

The way I use the tool is in temporary mode, as in not installed IN the car, but rather installed on any car I choose.
Hook up, tune, remove.

So whatchyagot? What is the new tool of choice for tuning carbs?
Thanks and have a great day.
Title: Re: What is the new wideband tuner of choice these days?
Post by: mbrunson427 on April 20, 2021, 08:24:25 AM: I did a bunch of research about a year back and ended up with the same one you have. Seemed like there was 2 tiers of quality and the innovate was at the top of the lower tier. Everything on the upper tier cost a ton of money.
Title: Re: What is the new wideband tuner of choice these days?
Post by: Tommy-T on April 20, 2021, 10:47:04 AM: I've got an LM1 as well. It works well and is probably as old as yours.

It's probably as hi tech as I'm going to get but I'll be interested to see what you end up with.

It can be very entertaining when I have Mrs.-T in the passenger seat yelling out a/f numbers while I'm at WFO.
Title: Re: What is the new wideband tuner of choice these days?
Post by: Greaterthenjake on April 20, 2021, 07:33:26 PM: I'm a little more diy myself. https://wide-band.com/wb-d1-digital-wideband-afr-controller-module-diy-board can be wired to a wideband o2 and output to either a pc or your afr Guage of choice. Budgets and the keeper of my money lead to innovation...
Title: Re: What is the new wideband tuner of choice these days?
Post by: jmlay on April 20, 2021, 09:53:28 PM: In the early 2000s I built a DIY unit from http://wb02.com. it has been great.
Title: Re: What is the new wideband tuner of choice these days?
Post by: jayb on April 20, 2021, 10:18:05 PM: I like this one. It uses the NTK sensor, not the Bosch sensor, which I've found last quite a bit longer.

https://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/product_info.php/products_id/2337
Title: Re: What is the new wideband tuner of choice these days?
Post by: cleandan on April 21, 2021, 09:53:25 AM: Quote from: jayb on April 20, 2021, 10:18:05 PM
I like this one. It uses the NTK sensor, not the Bosch sensor, which I've found last quite a bit longer.

https://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/product_info.php/products_id/2337

Jay, which of the NTK sensors are you using?
They range in price quite a bit according to the info on the website.
"Production grade" is a $50 upgrade.
"Calibration grade" is a $150 upgrade.
"Lab grade" is a $450 upgrade.

What I am looking for is the ability to set this thing on the seat, snake the wires to the O2 sensor, hook up the 12VDC, and drive around collecting tuning data. Tune, test, repeat as needed, then remove the whole thing when finished.

Thanks for the heads up on this unit.
Title: Re: What is the new wideband tuner of choice these days?
Post by: jayb on April 21, 2021, 11:52:06 AM: I just buy the production grade units, they have been plenty accurate for me on the dyno - Jay