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Title: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: Barry_R on January 21, 2021, 03:53:25 PM
While putting together a deal to cast more of my heads (after an extended delay), another opportunity has come up.

Edelbrock is no longer offering the Dominator flange Victor intake.  Are there enough folks out there who would still want a 4500 flange single plane?  While apparently not enough volume for large companies to machine and inventory, I have the chance to purchase raw single plane castings and machine them as I desire.  Local machining and custom capabilities would allow me to offer some port match and pushrod hole customization (or deletion) at a reasonable cost.
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: plovett on January 21, 2021, 04:25:50 PM
I am interested in the heads, if you can still get them ported.

pl
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: jayb on January 21, 2021, 04:42:53 PM
Barry, I've had at least 3 people call me over the last 6 months, looking to see if I still had my Victor with the Dominator flange for sale.  I'd bet you could sell some...
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: Barry_R on January 21, 2021, 04:45:36 PM
Porting and machining suppliers are things I am working on as part of this program.
The folks supplying castings are not able to provide machining services do to a partial plant relocation and Covid stuff.   
My local CNC guy went out of business - doubtless assisted by Covid and state government shutdowns.
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: KMcCullah on January 21, 2021, 05:16:59 PM
For a healthy FE, intakes with a 4500 flange seem to be drying up. Edelbrock has also discontinued the 2863.
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: frnkeore on January 21, 2021, 08:03:53 PM
Could there be a smaller, higher velocity, version to get into the Street Master/Dominator niche?
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: 351crules on January 21, 2021, 08:48:30 PM
glad i got my eddy 4500 intake when i did..
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: Blueoval77 on January 22, 2021, 06:06:04 PM
Barry I would take one..
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: Barry_R on January 23, 2021, 08:11:57 AM
Could there be a smaller, higher velocity, version to get into the Street Master/Dominator niche?

First effort would just be same as or close to existing Victor.  Changes limited to machining what the casing allows.
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: MeanGene on January 23, 2021, 10:04:02 AM
I would think a smaller-port version with the EFI cast in bungs would be pretty popular. I lucked onto a Victor with the EFI provisions and also a set of the rails to go with it, before they were discontinued. Strange that they don't offer an RPM with the bungs
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: Barry_R on January 23, 2021, 12:29:38 PM
The Victor comes cast with a rather small port opening as is - and the 4150 flange EFI one is still available.
Asfor port bungs on a dual plane - the media folks seem to have convinced folks that a dual plane can't be used that way.  As far as I know, only one guy has run a dual plane with port EFI on an FE (I imagine there have to be others...).  I cant imagine who that guy could be, but his dual plane, 4500 flange, port EFI engine made over 700HP at 7400 RPM, with 433 inches on 11:1 compression....
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: turbohunter on January 23, 2021, 02:51:09 PM
One more here.
Son of a gun, it runs great.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hGb750Jr/A3798-C87-9-CB1-4989-9-CBE-E0-C9-C6-F77-BC0.jpg)
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: 351crules on January 23, 2021, 03:39:49 PM
Will the intake be a clean slate designed one? If so I'd think a taller intake would be more beneficial than just rehashing what is already out there
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: 410bruce on January 23, 2021, 03:51:52 PM
One more here.
Son of a gun, it runs great.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hGb750Jr/A3798-C87-9-CB1-4989-9-CBE-E0-C9-C6-F77-BC0.jpg)
Wow, that's a clean looking install! Nice job!  8)
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: JC-427Stroker on February 28, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
Porting and machining suppliers are things I am working on as part of this program.
The folks supplying castings are not able to provide machining services do to a partial plant relocation and Covid stuff.   
My local CNC guy went out of business - doubtless assisted by Covid and state government shutdowns.

Hello Barry,

Did you get this figured out for the CNC work on the intakes if you get some ordered ?

I know a few people in S0-Cal with machines. They might have an interest in the machine work.
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: Barry_R on March 03, 2021, 08:42:42 PM
I have a few leads local to me.  I'd really like to keep machining close to home so I can adjust and tweak things.
First order of business is to get the pallet of head castings that just came in all machined and assembled.
Intake would be next.
The same basic Victor casting, but starting from raw would let me do a few things with port opening, pushrod location, and plenum entry that might make it a bit more attractive
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: Joe-JDC on March 03, 2021, 10:53:15 PM
Opening up the port to match the TFS Track Heat head shape and size would be a very good starting point to giving the Victor 427 great port velocity and flow balance.  The TFS port fits inside a Mr G 101 or Fel Pro 1247 MR gasket size.  Joe-JDC
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: bluef100fe on March 04, 2021, 09:51:50 PM
I would hope they would sell... being able to move the pushrod holes would definitely be a good move. Anybody that wants to build a serious FE with a medium riser style head should want one. I know mine has been worked over pretty good and I want to do some more yet but haven’t had time. I have two manifolds one with efi bungs and one with out both dominator flanged. I would think that manifold casting would compliment your heads nicely Barry.
Title: Re: Gauging Interest - version 2.0 - intake questions
Post by: JC-427Stroker on March 06, 2021, 12:40:46 AM
I have a few leads local to me.  I'd really like to keep machining close to home so I can adjust and tweak things.
First order of business is to get the pallet of head castings that just came in all machined and assembled.
Intake would be next.
The same basic Victor casting, but starting from raw would let me do a few things with port opening, pushrod location, and plenum entry that might make it a bit more attractive

Ok thanks.

Good luck with the project.   

 Yesterday I visited the MR heads I got from you 8 years ago ... LOL

So far the porting  work looks very promising.