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Title: So Ford can tell how many 427's went into certain 1963 and 64 models
Post by: TomP on December 20, 2020, 01:04:58 PM

I thought there wasn't information on anything pre 67 like this. On this Bring a Trailer auction for an R code 63 Galaxie convertible there is a 1972 letter from Ford where they state 411 convertibles in 1963 with the 427 engine and 204 convertibles in 1964. Click on picture #202 of the 222 pictures.

So what other info does Ford have on cars we can't get Marti reports for?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-ford-galaxie-500-31/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-12-20
Title: Re: So Ford can tell how many 427's went into certain 1963 and 64 models
Post by: Keith Stevens on December 20, 2020, 09:57:39 PM
What you're missing is this was 1972. They threw the records out in the 80's. The 67 up production paperwork and assembly manuals were literally rescued from a dumpster.
Title: Re: So Ford can tell how many 427's went into certain 1963 and 64 models
Post by: chris401 on December 20, 2020, 10:17:18 PM
What you're missing is this was 1972. They threw the records out in the 80's. The 67 up production paperwork and assembly manuals were literally rescued from a dumpster.
If I am correct...

The woman that saved the records worked at Ford and owned a 1967 Mustang. She saved these records for her year of car.
Title: Re: So Ford can tell how many 427's went into certain 1963 and 64 models
Post by: 427mach1 on December 20, 2020, 10:27:03 PM
What you're missing is this was 1972. They threw the records out in the 80's. The 67 up production paperwork and assembly manuals were literally rescued from a dumpster.
If I am correct...

The woman that saved the records worked at Ford and owned a 1967 Mustang. She saved these records for her year of car.

Lois Eminger, she had a 57 T-bird.  http://automotivemileposts.com/tbird/tbird1957eminger.html
Title: Re: So Ford can tell how many 427's went into certain 1963 and 64 models
Post by: Keith Stevens on December 20, 2020, 10:38:25 PM
Yes. Correct on the production information. The assembly manuals were rescued from the trash.
Title: Re: So Ford can tell how many 427's went into certain 1963 and 64 models
Post by: TomP on December 20, 2020, 11:25:55 PM
I thought the records were lost in a fire in 1966?
Title: Re: So Ford can tell how many 427's went into certain 1963 and 64 models
Post by: Keith Stevens on December 21, 2020, 12:40:38 AM
According to Kevin Marti they were thrown. I have always wondered if Ford still had vin numbers stored on microfiche and didn't want to be bothered with dealing with the public.
Title: Re: So Ford can tell how many 427's went into certain 1963 and 64 models
Post by: Katz427 on December 22, 2020, 08:01:15 PM
I personally haven't checked on much past 1950 at the Benson Ford center at the Henry Ford museum.  If anything exists , that is where it would reside, IMO. A lot of mechanical drawings still exist there, some interesting Foreman's logs, from the Rouge.
Title: Re: So Ford can tell how many 427's went into certain 1963 and 64 models
Post by: Rory428 on December 22, 2020, 10:51:15 PM
I don`t know if they break it down by engine, but about 15 years ago, I contacted the Ford of Canada historical department about my 59 Meteor Niagara 300 2 door sedan, which is basically a 59 Ford Custom 300 Tudor, built at Oakville Ontario. They send me a letter which broke down all the VIN tag information, which is drastically different than a US built Ford. Among the data was the production numbers of my particular model (under 6,000 Niagara 300 2 doors, compared to almost 250,000 Ford Custom 300s). No idea if Ford Motor Company has similar records, or if Ford of Canada still provides such info. The letter confirms that my car was originally a 332FE 2 speed automatic car, but I believe the production numbers they supplied were for all 59 Niagara 300 2 door sedans, with any powertrain package.
Title: Re: So Ford can tell how many 427's went into certain 1963 and 64 models
Post by: Rory428 on December 22, 2020, 10:54:16 PM
Also, in the mid 90s, I got a History 999 information letter from Ford , which broke down the data of my 69 Cobra fastback R code .Again, no idea if Ford still provides this info, and if they do, how far back the data goes.