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FE Power Forums => Private Classifieds => Topic started by: gdaddy01 on April 01, 2020, 04:40:26 PM
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there is a cross ram fe on craigslist for 750 dollars and my mouth is watering to hit buy it now , someone talk me out of it , please . I know it is not the best intake by Jays book , but I do like the looks of those things . would just run it on the street in my 62 ranchero gasser .
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At $750 I'd buy it, makes a bunch of torque on a strong engine and the looks can't be beat.
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If it's the MT, make sure it includes (or you have a line on) the distributor setup. Mine used an old Mallory that had been machined to fit, plus the pump drive extension and spacer. Love the look.
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thanks , guys , it is an edelbrock .
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it is on e bay , not craigslist , my mistake
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As i remember it from the book, the Edelbrock was better than
the M/T
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One day I will own one. By the time that day comes they will probably be going for 4k
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Sorry JayB but cross ram looks can be beat.
I've got both a MT and an Edelbrock Cross ram and the Edel. 6X2 looks better in my opinion.
Performance ??? but looks ------
Richard
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now where is the picture of the other two , where we can compare ? It sounds like I am a little like you , I like the looks of them all or I would stop trying to buy more , more , more .
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Here is a picture I took 2 years ago when getting ready to evac. for a wildfire. I've only sold the BT 2X4 and the TBird 3X2. I've got a few more multi carb setup's that didn't get into the picture.
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How about a cross ram with a bunch of carbs? I call it my quad dual or hillbilly split dominator.
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WOW that's really neat looking!
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How about a cross ram with a bunch of carbs? I call it my quad dual or hillbilly split dominator.
Now that's thinking outside the box!
If this is the Edelbrock X-F66 intake, I might suggest flipping the carburetors on one side so that they are opposed from right to left, so that the presentation is symmetrical for the two engine banks. One would at least initially believe that if the throttles in tipping pointed outward (toward the valve covers) into the plenum you would potentially experience the effect of lengthening the inlet distance to the inlet valve, and flipping the carburetor(s) so that the throttles in tipping pointed inward more pointed at the inlet valve would effectively shorten it. Believe me, the throttle angle has a significant effect on the flow presentation within the plenum area to the port runners.
Yep, makes the throttle linkage a pain, but you got it this far! ;D
Scott.
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I think Tommy's setup probably works better than a single 4 on each side. The big issue with either of the crossram intakes is fuel distribution to the outside cylinders, and his arrangement solves that. The other thing that I've always thought would work would be to put an EFI individual injector setup on one of those intakes, which would also solve the fuel distribution problem.
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Interestingly enough, I have been in touch with Blair Patrick as he was dyno testing a 482 with a M/T cross ram. He said in testing he found that the outer cylinders ran very rich which is counter intuitive to what one might think.
It could be the answer as to why the Edelbrock cross ram runs better. The squared off ends of the plenum on the Ed unit might this from happening.
As far as turning the carbs around on my manifold goes, I'm not going to do it. I've got more invest in this experiment than I want to and I am skeptical on what the results may be. It'll be nifty at car shows and a tunnel ram equipped 482 is waiting in the wings for when I'm done with this mess. If you're interested in the motor this manifold is going on, the specs are in the Members Projects section of the FE Forum in my Comet's build up.
Fun!
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yall have some nice looking setups . how would ed cross ram work with a 60 over 428 . cj heads , shorty headers , four speed , in 65 galaxie ? I will inquire about camshaft latter . street driven .
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I ran a edelbrock years ago on a 390 it ran good mid range was best part.I think if you have room for spacers it may help one day we had the hood off and no air cleaners and you see the fuel blow back out of the carbs.Still have the intake sure wish i saved other parts i had back then.
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yall have some nice looking setups . how would ed cross ram work with a 60 over 428 . cj heads , shorty headers , four speed , in 65 galaxie ? I will inquire about camshaft latter . street driven .
I put one on a 416 inch "CJ" it originally had CJ heads, iron intake, headers, C-6, CJ cam in a 416 in a 4.10 geared 67 Mustang We swapped the iron intake for the Edel Cross ram and 2 450 mechanical secondaries. It ran almost exactly the same, which was very good, very tame, but very fun. What it did like was a little more pump shot. It's been many many years but I think we used blue cams and left the shooters the same. In the end though, had to cut the hood, but it was super cool, well behaved and no downside to streetability
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my galaxie has a tear drop hood , will the side to side carbs fit ?
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How about a cross ram with a bunch of carbs? I call it my quad dual or hillbilly split dominator.
Needs velocity stacks that match the valve covers. 8)
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I ran a edelbrock years ago on a 390 it ran good mid range was best part.I think if you have room for spacers it may help one day we had the hood off and no air cleaners and you see the fuel blow back out of the carbs.Still have the intake sure wish i saved other parts i had back then.
Yes yes. Lots of reversion from that intake. Gotta go with spacers or more cubes to pull on the plenums. Or both.
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my galaxie has a tear drop hood , will the side to side carbs fit ?
I wonder about that, too. I'll bet you didn't know I also have a teardrop '65. And an E-X-Ram. Single quad now, 428, 3175 pounds with iron heads, no driver. Sssshhhhh....
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I knew I liked you .
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I wonder how a 3200 pound , 600 horse galaxie would compare to a 5000 pound 800 horse charger , just in time slips , I know the radio may be better in the charger .
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Here's a data point that's probably sketchier for conversion than bushels to kilderkins, BUT the Crites teardrop hood on a 64 Galaxie leaves plenty of room for air cleaners over the MT cross ram.
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thanks
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I knew I liked you .
You have good taste in felons.
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I wonder how a 3200 pound , 600 horse galaxie would compare to a 5000 pound 800 horse charger , just in time slips , I know the radio may be better in the charger .
You let me know. I don't even have a place to mount a radio.
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Ran an Edelbrock cross ram on dyno a while ago. Package ended up around the 600 HP range IIRC. Responded very strongly to having one inch open spacers under the carbs (plenum is super shallow...). It also needed a crazy amount of jet pulled out - carbs were a pair of basic 750 DPs and they were surprisingly linear on A/F after pulling something like 10 jets (!!!) out. Scary as hell to tune like that, but I just kept following the A/F, the power numbers, and the plugs until it got happy...
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Ran an Edelbrock cross ram on dyno a while ago. Package ended up around the 600 HP range IIRC. Responded very strongly to having one inch open spacers under the carbs (plenum is super shallow...). It also needed a crazy amount of jet pulled out - carbs were a pair of basic 750 DPs and they were surprisingly linear on A/F after pulling something like 10 jets (!!!) out. Scary as hell to tune like that, but I just kept following the A/F, the power numbers, and the plugs until it got happy...
What was the rest of the package?
A friend of mine years ago had a '58 Ford that, in the 60's, had been an AHRA drag car. 352 with fenderwell headers and the cross ram. He posted a video in another part of the Net of the big reversion fog. His resto of that car stuck with the 352. I can't recall his carbs.
Do you think that 600's would work better?
AHA! I found it. Evidently, he sold the car in 2014. Too bad the pics are no longer there. I guess he gave up on the cross ram and went with a 6V at some point. https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/1958-ford-custom-300-built-for-ahra-junior-stock-in-1966.922626/
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got the crossram in today , now what to do with it , I don't think the wife will let me keep it on the dining room table .