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Title: Chort
Post by: FElony on March 19, 2020, 05:03:14 PM
Anyone here ever build/own an FE-powered tail dragger?
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: Thumperbird on March 19, 2020, 05:40:13 PM
um, pretty sure there would be a serious weight/balance problem unless one heck of a large one.
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: FElony on March 19, 2020, 06:37:10 PM
Let me be more specific. https://www.google.com/search?q=galaxie+lowrider&client=firefox-b-1-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwij_eSe2qfoAhVCV80KHXUbAy0Q_AUoAXoECAkQAw&biw=1801&bih=891
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: Thumperbird on March 19, 2020, 07:08:10 PM
oh, that kind of tail, got it.
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: cammerfe on March 19, 2020, 10:04:40 PM
Actually, for a period of time, my '64 Custom/427 was higher in the front than the back---but it was because along with the TractionMasters in the back, I put in a pair of spring jacks in each front coil, and then had the alignment re-set to get the camber back in place. I'd crewed on a Willys Gasser not long before I ordered the '64 and Gas cars were all set up high in the front, supposedly to help weight transfer and, therefore, traction.

I discovered that with the front up and a 3.50 gear and 8.20-15s on the rear, the car was capable of over 150 out on the Interstate. But the steering got light at about 125-130, just as I was shifting into 4th. (3rd made a good starting point for a 'hundred-up bash') By 150 MPH (from engine RPM and tire circumference/gear calculations) it got pretty scary. The air caught under the raised front was lifting the front further and steering feel was going away.

So I lowered it back down.

KS
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: FERoadster on March 20, 2020, 12:16:40 AM
There was a thread on HAMB  or Garage Journal about the "Southern Squat" = PU's with the tailgate near the ground and front end normal height. .
FElony you can have your way with that term.
Richard 
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: Dan859 on March 20, 2020, 12:58:16 AM
"Chort"?  Seriously????  LOL!!!  I know, I know, the devil made you do it.
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: FElony on March 20, 2020, 11:51:34 AM
"Chort"?  Seriously????  LOL!!!  I know, I know, the devil made you do it.

Wasssah, gringo? Yes, "chort" is they way the Chicanos pronounce "short", which is an old-school word for lowrider. I guess the whities here who didn't know that must be rayciss. I know AOC would agree, 'cuz she's never wrong.  ::)
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: FElony on March 20, 2020, 12:03:54 PM
There was a thread on HAMB  or Garage Journal about the "Southern Squat" = PU's with the tailgate near the ground and front end normal height. .
FElony you can have your way with that term.
Richard

I never heard that term before, but I know there was a lot of that going on with trucks in California a few years ago. Once in a while we'd see one around here with Cali plates, and us Zonies would get out and beat up the driver and pop all his tires.

Where I'm from, back in the olden days, there were plenty of low riders and mild customs. Most were Chebbies, but every once in a while you'd see a Galaxie or Monterey. Although I'm not a fan of acres of blinding chrome, chain steering wheels, and fur upholstery (apologies to Cheech and Chong), the intricate detail in some of the paint was truly artistic. I just wondered if anyone here had something like that. Just pondering, as usual. I guess not. See, I have this '64 Monty....
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: frnkeore on March 20, 2020, 01:18:59 PM
Actually, for a period of time, my '64 Custom/427 was higher in the front than the back---but it was because along with the TractionMasters in the back, I put in a pair of spring jacks in each front coil, and then had the alignment re-set to get the camber back in place. I'd crewed on a Willys Gasser not long before I ordered the '64 and Gas cars were all set up high in the front, supposedly to help weight transfer and, therefore, traction.

I discovered that with the front up and a 3.50 gear and 8.20-15s on the rear, the car was capable of over 150 out on the Interstate. But the steering got light at about 125-130, just as I was shifting into 4th. (3rd made a good starting point for a 'hundred-up bash') By 150 MPH (from engine RPM and tire circumference/gear calculations) it got pretty scary. The air caught under the raised front was lifting the front further and steering feel was going away.

So I lowered it back down.

KS
For a long time, back in the '60's and into the '70's, that was "the look" and it does work for weight transfer. It came from the Funny Cars and their attempt to get traction. They raised the cars and moved the rear axle forward, until they could get the front to lift. And, that is why they were called "Funny Cars". But, those cars are  nothing the "modern" ones. I thought they were ugly and still do but, they served their purpose and gave the class, it's name. Slicks, weren't the best in those days.

Competition can do some strange things!
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: Thumperbird on March 20, 2020, 02:21:45 PM
Late 90's early 2000's used to see tons of dropped dualies in LA when there on business, funny sight for sure!
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: shady on March 20, 2020, 02:34:51 PM
See, I have this '64 Monty....
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Must be a Monte Python video. Monte Carlo's first appeared in '70.
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: TomP on March 20, 2020, 05:21:02 PM
Think he means a Monty-Ray...da Moik...
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: Thumperbird on March 20, 2020, 06:48:21 PM
Ok, not really related but I have wondered a bout this over the years, wondering if anyone can add some info..

Probably 1980, Car Craft Nationals in Indianapolis.

There was a group (club maybe?) of very nice cars, a couple panel vans and one van had the name "Raped Ape" on the side.  An yone know anything about that?

On a silly note, there was this blown red corvette with a mile high chrome engine, thing chirped some big tires hard every time the idle rolled up and around while moving along at say 2 miles an hour, as a kid, was pretty cool.
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: FElony on March 20, 2020, 07:24:00 PM
Think he means a Monty-Ray...da Moik...

Yep, da Moik. hehe. I have a cat named Monty, also. It's chort for Montego. He's going in Tues morning for the old clippity clip. Probably fang the hell out of me when the sedative wears off. He did sire one kitty, now eight weeks, a carbon copy of himself. Yep, it's Cougar!!
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: FElony on March 20, 2020, 07:39:27 PM
See, I have this '64 Monty....

Must be a Monte Python video. Monte Carlo's first appeared in '70.
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I expected a better comment. Something wrong? There's a blue pill for that, you know.

However, a chort story. When I was 18 my only car was a Mustang with a high-revving 302/289 and a stick. Around the block on the corner was a gentleman, retired with gray hair. He had purchased a brand-new '70 Monte Carlo new a few years prior. SS454, Marina Blue with black vinyl top, black interior, Rally wheels. Surely a beautiful ride. So he's watering his lawn one day and I pull over to yakk about cars, and I try talk him into a race. He laughs and says something like, "Boy, I've seen you tear up and down this street dozens of times, and there ain't no way I"m messing with that."

Too bad. But he did start his car up, since I had never heard it. Nice rumble. Very classy car. I wouldn't mind having one when I get old. Ah damn, too late...
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: 57 lima bean on March 21, 2020, 08:23:59 AM
               Sadly,that rake looks like chit.
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: cammerfe on March 21, 2020, 01:07:43 PM
Ok, not really related but I have wondered a bout this over the years, wondering if anyone can add some info..

Probably 1980, Car Craft Nationals in Indianapolis.

There was a group (club maybe?) of very nice cars, a couple panel vans and one van had the name "Raped Ape" on the side.  An yone know anything about that?

On a silly note, there was this blown red corvette with a mile high chrome engine, thing chirped some big tires hard every time the idle rolled up and around while moving along at say 2 miles an hour, as a kid, was pretty cool.

The 'Raped Ape' label likely came from the phrase, common at one time, at least in the mid-west, "It runs like a raped ape". Probably became popular because of the alliteration. I'd suppose he was attempting to brag. ::)

KS
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: cammerfe on March 23, 2020, 08:52:04 PM
"Chort"?  Seriously????  LOL!!!  I know, I know, the devil made you do it.

Wasssah, gringo? Yes, "chort" is they way the Chicanos pronounce "short", which is an old-school word for lowrider. I guess the whities here who didn't know that must be rayciss. I know AOC would agree, 'cuz she's never wrong.  ::)

 "Two cool shorts sitting side-by-side..." The Beach Boys

KS
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: Dan859 on March 24, 2020, 10:17:31 AM
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"Chort"?  Seriously????  LOL!!!  I know, I know, the devil made you do it.

Wasssah, gringo? Yes, "chort" is they way the Chicanos pronounce "short", which is an old-school word for lowrider. I guess the whities here who didn't know that must be rayciss. I know AOC would agree, 'cuz she's never wrong.  ::)

 "Two cool shorts sitting side-by-side..." The Beach Boys

Thanks!  I've been listening to that song since it came out, and never knew what they meant by "shorts".  FElony, when you started the thread, I thought you were going to be making another Russian comment thread.  "Chort" in Russian literally means the devil, but it's usually used as a curse word.  So, when I first saw it, that's why I said the devil made you do it.
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: cammerfe on March 24, 2020, 12:35:37 PM
I believe, at the time of the BB song, that 'short' was a more general term for the sort of modified car, whether a rod or a custom, that a kid might drive. Considering the way slang changes in meaning in various parts of the country, I'd readily believe that Chicago has (had) it's own variation, as Felony has alluded to.

How many of you know that, in the Metro Detroit area, at least, it was the custom to use 'hot' where it's now, and has been for many years, all over the country, the universally used 'cool'. Cool, around here, was a response to hot meaning 'even more so'. "It's so hot it's cool." That would have been in the early-mid 50s around here.

KS
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: FElony on March 24, 2020, 12:50:39 PM
"Chort"?  Seriously????  LOL!!!  I know, I know, the devil made you do it.

Wasssah, gringo? Yes, "chort" is they way the Chicanos pronounce "short", which is an old-school word for lowrider. I guess the whities here who didn't know that must be rayciss. I know AOC would agree, 'cuz she's never wrong.  ::)

 "Two cool shorts sitting side-by-side..." The Beach Boys

KS

There it is. However, the cars in the song were not lowriders. So, I imagine "short" started out meaning hot rod or something prior to the custom car use. Good reference.

Edit: I replied to this before I read your next post.
Title: Re: Chort
Post by: FElony on March 24, 2020, 12:57:49 PM
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"Chort"?  Seriously????  LOL!!!  I know, I know, the devil made you do it.

Wasssah, gringo? Yes, "chort" is they way the Chicanos pronounce "short", which is an old-school word for lowrider. I guess the whities here who didn't know that must be rayciss. I know AOC would agree, 'cuz she's never wrong.  ::)

 "Two cool shorts sitting side-by-side..." The Beach Boys

Thanks!  I've been listening to that song since it came out, and never knew what they meant by "shorts".  FElony, when you started the thread, I thought you were going to be making another Russian comment thread.  "Chort" in Russian literally means the devil, but it's usually used as a curse word.  So, when I first saw it, that's why I said the devil made you do it.

Ah so. An opportunity missed by me. I'm an abject failure.