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FE Power Forums => Non-FE Discussion Forum => Topic started by: mbrunson427 on February 17, 2020, 05:59:53 PM
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I've got myself worried about a power steering issue and I'm hoping somebody can tell me whether I'm right or wrong for thinking it's a problem:
Background, my '62 Galaxie will have a Borgeson power steering box and a hydraboost brake booster.
Originally I had called Lee Power Steering looking for a pump retrofit and was told by them that a Galaxie style pump will be plenty and that one of their products wouldn't be necessary for what I'm doing. After this phone call I bought the power steering pump below, I plan to pull it apart and detail it. Now that everything is here and I'm looking at it, I've gotten to worrying about the reservoir being below the height of both the brake unit and the Borgeson unit. Am I going to have fluid level issues? Most '63 Galaxies have the reservoir remote mounted on the drivers apron, am I going to need to ditch the reservoir I have and pick up a remote mount style? I'm really wanting to use this style because it's quite a bit cleaner.
Additional question: will this pump create too much pressure if run at 6000rpm or does it have a bypass? Do I need to get a smaller drive pulley?
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Yes the pump has a relief valve. That pump fastens right to the water pump making it easy. The system self bleeds itself, so no worries. I don't know why they mounted the reservoir on the inner fender on some '63 & '64s, but I always liked the pump mounted ones better. If you buy a rebuild kit, I like to buy the pulley seal separately as the ones that come with the kit seem crappy. You can also buy a new filter for the tank. If your worried about rpms, you can always put a smaller pulley on the crank. I think it will be fine.
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I have written in my notes that Borgeson steering boxes require 1100 psi to 1250 psi for proper operation and 2 - 2.5 gallon per minute flow. Will the Galaxie power steering pump produce that level of performance? Generally, it is commonly held that the Ford pump in 1960s Mustangs does not have adequate capacity to perform well with the Borgeson PS conversion.
Clark
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Yes the pump has a relief valve. That pump fastens right to the water pump making it easy. The system self bleeds itself, so no worries. I don't know why they mounted the reservoir on the inner fender on some '63 & '64s, but I always liked the pump mounted ones better. If you buy a rebuild kit, I like to buy the pulley seal separately as the ones that come with the kit seem crappy. You can also buy a new filter for the tank. If your worried about rpms, you can always put a smaller pulley on the crank. I think it will be fine.
Thanks for the info. I think I'll buy a rebuild kit as you suggested. The pump is "NOS", but I don't want to trust it to seal.
I have written in my notes that Borgeson steering boxes require 1100 psi to 1250 psi for proper operation and 2 - 2.5 gallon per minute flow. Will the Galaxie power steering pump produce that leave of performance? Generally, it is commonly held that the Ford pump in 1960s Mustangs does not have adequate capacity to perform well with the Borgeson PS conversion.
Clark
This is the reason I called Lee Power Steering. We have a friend with a '67 Mustang that has a Borgeson unit. Said that the pump wasn't enough and he ended up getting a hold of Lee and they were super helpful and got him fixed up. When I called Lee the tech guy looked at some cheat sheet chart that he had quick access to. He saw the pressure of the stock Galaxie pump and figured I'd be fine. The pump design on the Mustang's is different than the early Galaxie's.
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I can tell you that i put a Galaxie pump on my tractor
And i was sceptical to it Having enough capasity due
To the much bigger hydraulic ram on the tractor but
Its more than enough the pump must have some over
Capacity built in
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Mike, the reservoir is mounted up high on the fender apron on my '63 Galaxie and needs to be to clear the A/C compressor. Don't think you'll have fluid level issues as long as the reservoir is above the pump as shown in your picture. Btw those pumps (made by Eaton) are available new from RockAuto so there might also be some modern application for them.