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FE Power Forums => Member Projects => Topic started by: fe66comet on January 03, 2013, 06:13:42 PM
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That would be awesome, can't afford it but it would be the ultimate Ford Creation.
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You've seen the photo-shopped version, I assume?
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No I haven't does such a monster exist?
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Google Images is your friend!
(http://www.fordmuscle.com/pics/custom300fe_V12Ford.JPG)
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Was I ever built? Or just prototype?
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Jay and Fast Ed, would that Cammer then be a 640-inch 12V? ;)
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Also note the 2 distributors and 2 coils, a la Ferrari!
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Was I ever built? Or just prototype?
It's just a Photoshop job. They never built anything like that.
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Love the copper pipe.
I use it, ala Home Despot, on the 390 so you could say it's stockish. ::)
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If you used two Shelby blocks it could be done just like the 318 based Dodge v10. Would take some rocket engineering and a lot of custom billet parts though, along with a big deep wallet LOL.
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We did build a couple of V-12 modular engines at Ford, by sectioning and welding 4.6L blocks and heads. All that was needed was custom cranks and cams.
One ended up in the GT90 show car, and the other one got stuffed into a Town Car! Engine management was done by a pair of modfied Thunderbird EEC-IV ECU's, so essentially the V-12 was tuned as a pair of V-6 engines.
Upper management killed that project off pretty quickly, once they found out what the "Welding Feasibility Study" really was LOL!
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Saw that welded v-12 in the car rags when the GT-90 debuted.
It would be easier for Jay to link two SOHCs's for a V-16!
Hey, Busby did the old 255 CID Indy Ford DOHC engines in a dragster long ago.
http://twotogo.homestead.com/TwoToGoinLineTwins.html
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That is just badassed!! I'd love to hear it. Thanks for the link.
(http://twotogo.homestead.com/files/In-Lines-2/Busby-768o.jpg)
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Here's another shot:
http://twotogo.homestead.com/files/In-Lines-2/9-5-47o.jpg
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Totally awesome! I have seen it done with Kohler v twins before with magneto ignition.
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Go BIG or go home!!! 1100 cubic inches, 4 valve DOHC, and its all aluminum!
(http://www.fordgaaengine.com/GAA-021.jpg)
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Love the Ford GAA tank engine! Lots of info on the web. Here's a link. Maybe when Jay gets bored with the FE cammers?
http://www.fordgaaengine.com/
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Aluminum or not, I'll bet that thing weighs a ton! Unbelievable underhood appeal, though...
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I like the reverse flow interesting.
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The GAA website list them at 900+ pounds when stripped down for non-tank use.
I like this one with twin 6-71 blowers and injected!
(http://www.fordgaaengine.com/HeidrichGAA-01.jpg)
And Jay, the biggest problem is it won't fit under the hood!
(http://members.tccoa.com/392bird/mustangmock1.jpg)
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It looks like a Miata with a 600 cube Ford Motorsport engine LOL you better have good brakes.
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Yes, this is an old thread, but.... I remembered this from long ago and that it was made by modifying the sand casting cores of the 4.6l. I seem to remember that Sean Hyland may have offered this engine from core molds he had made.
http://www.mustangandfords.com/featured-vehicles/138-0402-boss-351-v10-mustang/
With all of the projects that Jay has on his table, he could use one more ;D to create a V12, right?
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He just can't seem to get enough FE stuffed in the standard Ford block LOL.
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Can you imagine the look on Freiberger's face when Jay shows up for Dragweek with a "Gas Rhonda" type long nose Mustang with a 12 or 16 cyl SOHC in the Unlimited class?! 8)
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There is actually a Ford GAA engine up for sale on Ebay!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-GAA-GAF-V8-Sherman-Tank-Engine-Blocks-and-Parts-/261539470162?pt=Other_Vehicle_Parts&hash=item3ce4f79b52&vxp=mtr
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Looks kind of silly in that mustang, but it just might be a nice fit in a big ole Galaxie. Only $7000 buy it now, whatta ya think? lol
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Ford did build supercharged radial air craft engines in the second world war, they were rated at over 3000 HP. Basically they were spin off war contracted Pratt- Whitney engines. I actually saw some running examples at some air shows, huge fire breathing monsters. Kinda intimidating to say the least LOL.
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We did build a couple of V-12 modular engines at Ford, by sectioning and welding 4.6L blocks and heads. All that was needed was custom cranks and cams.
One ended up in the GT90 show car, and the other one got stuffed into a Town Car! Engine management was done by a pair of modfied Thunderbird EEC-IV ECU's, so essentially the V-12 was tuned as a pair of V-6 engines.
Upper management killed that project off pretty quickly, once they found out what the "Welding Feasibility Study" really was LOL!
I remember that one. Saw the cranks at Kominski's old "Precision Crankshaft Grinding" shop in Taylor and I was "WTF is that???"
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Getting off topic, remember what late 60's early 70's car had had the normal located front engine and the custom back seat engine?
Edit: I did find lots of custom jobs and the twin engine Hurst Olds but not the one that I remembered. I saw it at an Autorama and in car mags on the quarter mile. May have been a show car with a couple of runs on it.
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I had a VW bug with a GM turbo 425 transaxle and Buick 455 in it. I robbed the trans from a Toronado and bolted a Buick I had laying around to it, it killed the car when the fuel pump failed and decided an engine in the passenger compartment was a bad idea LOL. It at the time was cool to hear the four barrels kick in while running down the track, it still makes me giggle to think how stupid it was.
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There is actually a Ford GAA engine up for sale on Ebay!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-GAA-GAF-V8-Sherman-Tank-Engine-Blocks-and-Parts-/261539470162?pt=Other_Vehicle_Parts&hash=item3ce4f79b52&vxp=mtr
I've had my hands on those engines...really a sad story.
An old man supposedly had a huge barn full of good stuff that burned down in one of the big San Diego fires. Well lets just say he stretched the truth a little on his insurance claim, but he got a big chunk of money. He went and bought all kinds of stuff, but with nowhere to put it he loaded up a couple of hangers at the local airport. He tinkered for a couple more years, and then passed away.
One of his nephews was left with all of the stuff, and I helped him identify and sell some of it. There was hot rod parts, air plane parts, motorcycle parts, machine parts.... you name it his uncle had collected it. None of it was real nice, but he had replaced some of his collection. There was a Boss 302 block and heads, some 428 parts, and a jung 427 MR mixed in with all of it.
The sad thing about the tank engines was there was 3 times what is listed in the ebay ad, all in spare parts crates. The nephew got behind on the hanger rent and just started hauling stuff off in trailers. Before he could get it all out the landlords locked up the building and took the engines listed on ebay as collateral against the back rent. The nephew decided he would never get them back, so he scrapped all of the missing and spare parts that went with those engines.
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I had a VW bug with a GM turbo 425 transaxle and Buick 455 in it. I robbed the trans from a Toronado and bolted a Buick I had laying around to it, it killed the car when the fuel pump failed and decided an engine in the passenger compartment was a bad idea LOL. It at the time was cool to hear the four barrels kick in while running down the track, it still makes me giggle to think how stupid it was.
Ha, So it does work. Got coworkers going when I sujested to one to do that to his 65 bug.
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There is actually a Ford GAA engine up for sale on Ebay!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-GAA-GAF-V8-Sherman-Tank-Engine-Blocks-and-Parts-/261539470162?pt=Other_Vehicle_Parts&hash=item3ce4f79b52&vxp=mtr
I've had my hands on those engines...really a sad story.
An old man supposedly had a huge barn full of good stuff that burned down in one of the big San Diego fires. Well lets just say he stretched the truth a little on his insurance claim, but he got a big chunk of money. He went and bought all kinds of stuff, but with nowhere to put it he loaded up a couple of hangers at the local airport. He tinkered for a couple more years, and then passed away.
One of his nephews was left with all of the stuff, and I helped him identify and sell some of it. There was hot rod parts, air plane parts, motorcycle parts, machine parts.... you name it his uncle had collected it. None of it was real nice, but he had replaced some of his collection. There was a Boss 302 block and heads, some 428 parts, and a jung 427 MR mixed in with all of it.
The sad thing about the tank engines was there was 3 times what is listed in the ebay ad, all in spare parts crates. The nephew got behind on the hanger rent and just started hauling stuff off in trailers. Before he could get it all out the landlords locked up the building and took the engines listed on ebay as collateral against the back rent. The nephew decided he would never get them back, so he scrapped all of the missing and spare parts that went with those engines.
In engineering school, I spent a lot of time in the wind tunnel labs and associated machine shops. A few years before I got there, they re-powered the main subsonic wind tunnel with an electric drive. The previous engine was a Packard Merlin V-12. Low hours. Beautifully maintained.
They dismantled and threw that engine in the trash! :o Oh man if I could go back to that day...
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There are still a lot of military Cadillac and Continental military engines out there. I have a Continental 80 HP 4 cylinder air craft engine built in the 1920s laying around. It was rebuilt and certified just before I got it, a freebie for disposing of the kit air plane it was in and never registered. I have entertained the thought of making a fan boat out of it but probably will get rid of it eventually.
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If you're going to go to all the trouble of building a v12, you might as well go with a V16. They are better balanced, and sound WAY cooler, more like a V8, or a pair of them anyway. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3syL4SF-3g
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There was a 16 cylinder 1st gen camaro at SEMA this year. It was at least 12 L
All fit under the hood. I know its a chevy but was neat engineering