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FE Power Forums => Non-FE Discussion Forum => Topic started by: chris401 on April 13, 2019, 10:10:10 PM
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I picked up a running 65 430 engine and transmission today. If I refrain from pulling mobile homes or D9s would this be a stout transmission behind a 430 in an F-250 with 3.54 gears? Not real interested in an automatic pickup but it is supposed to be a good unit.
Thanks
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That is an extra heavy duty version of the cruise o matic.. They were behind 427s in Thunderbolts, so yes they should be able to handle life in a 3/4 ton pickup.
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That is an extra heavy duty version of the cruise o matic.. They were behind 427s in Thunderbolts, so yes they should be able to handle life in a 3/4 ton pickup.
Learned something new. It has that odd two spline output shaft. The regular FE C-O-M bell I have does not have that fifth top center bolt hole. I take it the FE bell housing for it is pretty rare?
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Yep, Heavy Duty Cruis-O. If you are going to tow with it, make sure you have enough oil cooler to keep the temperature under control. Otherwise it should be fairly bullet-proof.
A '65 Continental probably weighs about the same as your 3/4 Ton anyways, and I'll bet a box of doughnuts that the factory tow rating wasn't much different either.....
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Yep, Heavy Duty Cruis-O. If you are going to tow with it, make sure you have enough oil cooler to keep the temperature under control. Otherwise it should be fairly bullet-proof.
A '65 Continental probably weighs about the same as your 3/4 Ton anyways, and I'll bet a box of doughnuts that the factory tow rating wasn't much different either.....
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Your probably right. Truck weighs 48XX with the tool box. The transmission does have 6 shift lever positions. I would like it to start in first when in drive, anything I can do to make it shift normally?
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Your six positions should be (P)ark - (R)everse - (N)uetral - D1 - D2 - L
D2 starts in 2nd gear, and D1 starts in first. Both end up in 3rd - High range.
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Your six positions should be (P)ark - (R)everse - (N)uetral - D1 - D2 - L
D2 starts in 2nd gear, and D1 starts in first. Both end up in 3rd - High range.
I would like to start in first when in Drive. From what I read it only starts in first when you put it in first unless your onto the throttle. Was that the earlier twin range or my model?
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Your thinking of the earlier single range Ford-O-Matics. I don't think a MEL backed Cruis-O was ever offered in a single range version, they were all dual range. So buy putting it in D1, it will always start in 1st, irregardless of throttle position.
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Your thinking of the earlier single range Ford-O-Matics. I don't think a MEL backed Cruis-O was ever offered in a single range version, they were all dual range. So buy putting it in D1, it will always start in 1st, irregardless of throttle position.
So this one shifts like a modern 3 speed in Drive under normal driving conditions, 1-2-3 without touching the shifter?
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The short answer is YES.
The long answer digs into the weeds on how the transmission functions. These transmissions combine a 3 element torque convertor and a hydraulically controlled 3 speed and reverse planetary gearset. Dual Range transmissions are equipped with a one-way clutch incorporated into the planet gear pinion carrier. When in the D1 position, the engine torque is delivered to the front clutch. The torque reaction of the one-way clutch causes it to lock up and hold the drum stationary, thus creating low or 1st gear. At the 1-2 upshift, the front servo is engaged, and as soon as the front band picks up the reaction torque, the one-way clutch will start to free wheel and the transmission will be in 2nd gear.
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The short answer is YES.
The long answer digs into the weeds on how the transmission functions. These transmissions combine a 3 element torque convertor and a hydraulically controlled 3 speed and reverse planetary gearset. Dual Range transmissions are equipped with a one-way clutch incorporated into the planet gear pinion carrier. When in the D1 position, the engine torque is delivered to the front clutch. The torque reaction of the one-way clutch causes it to lock up and hold the drum stationary, thus creating low or 1st gear. At the 1-2 upshift, the front servo is engaged, and as soon as the front band picks up the reaction torque, the one-way clutch will start to free wheel and the transmission will be in 2nd gear.
Thank you. My searches weren't getting anything on this particular model then I remembered my 1968 Motors Auto Repair Manual touched on transmissions. I do not remember any small rear mounted valve bodies so I don't think I have ever opened one of these up. I got a stash of kits and other parts from a man who restored Lincoln's. He gave me a couple of drums saying that was the weak link. Not sure if this is it or not.