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FE Power Forums => Non-FE Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Stangman on January 24, 2019, 02:15:23 PM
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Just a heads up on amazon valvoline VR1 is 12.65 for 20/50 and a few cents less for 10/30. Now thats for a case of 6. Lets say I run Brad Penn 10/40 for the last 2 years and all has been good. Do you think I can switch over to valvoline 10/30 without me getting all nervous and jerky.
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Thanks for the heads up, summit has it for 38 bucks a 6 pak, I just ordered 4 cases.
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Do you think I can switch over to valvoline 10/30 without me getting all nervous and jerky.
Yes. I think you can switch to the Valvoline VR1 10W30. It wouldn't bother me a bit.
JMO,
paulie
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I wouldn't change if you're running a flat tappet engine. The roller engines seem to be okay with the multi-viscosity oils. I started using the Kendall AKA Brad Penn in the 80's. I ran it in a turbo vehicle before turbo specifics came to be. It held up much better than Castrol ever did. Despite the fact its 9.00 a quart for the break in, I feel safe with it and it's protection properties.
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LOL - then I go looking for 30wt VR1, which is what I run. "MDR Tuning" wants $19. Per quart.
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19.00 a quart? Does that come with complementary Vaseline? Amazon has a case of 6 10-30 for 23.99.
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Thanks, Stangman. Also got 4 before the $12.11 went away. Now if they'd just run the SAE 60 that way.
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19.00 a quart? Does that come with complementary Vaseline? Amazon has a case of 6 10-30 for 23.99.
Yep - I looked twice, it was $19/quart. I can run the 10w-30 but right now I have a shelf of 30wt. Went to the local O'Reillys and the manager lady cut me some discount on a mass order of 3 cases.
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Chris: I am in the DFW area. The old parts houses here have gone the way of the DODO bird. Kind of sad.
Keith
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X2 thanks Stangman.
I ordered 5 cases of the 10W30 last night and was thinking today that it was to good of a price to be true so I just checked and found it is now $23.99 but is temporarily out of stock. It is shown as”1 quart (case of 6)”, which is the same description as the yesterday when it was $12.11. Actually the $23.99 is way less than what I can buy it for locally. In today's listing it also shows 1 quart at $12.90......, modern marketing at its best LOL
I did get an order confirmation email with a delivery date of of February 8-22 so I’ll keep my fingers crossed.
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Have you guys seen those pics on internet the last few weeks
from russia where they put some unknown oil in fake cans and
sold cheap around the world?
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Heo, you're scaring me LOL! Have you got a link to any of those reports?
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No Valvoline pictured in this story, but...yeah, wow. I just read a story about fake caviar from Russia last week.
Now I honestly wonder if I could tell the difference visually. On the oil. The oil.
http://www.automotorblog.com/watch-counterfeit-engine-oil-russia-87039.html
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Very long link about a BBC guy who has tested a bunch of oil (from another forum):
https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/20/motor-oil-wear-test-ranking/
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Rat really raised some hackles when he was presenting his results and his theories.. He ranked oils by film strength and some of the old standbys sucked, which people could not accept.. Except all they could offer to refute the findings was anecdotal.. He backed it up with some GM data that said ZDDP was not the end all to flat tappet cam survival. Rat postulated that it is the anti friction and wear package that makes a difference, not ZDDP content. For a lark I sent him some Fleet Farm 20-50 race oil which costs $2.50 a quart to test.. It was in the upper half of the dozens of oils he tested.. Oils are like religion and politics. Best not to discuss because nobody wants to change their mind or be told they are wrong.
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I think Rat540's testing was completely unscientific and not related to how oil affects parts in an actual running engine. It was meaningless. That is why so many people didn't like it.
JMO,
paulie
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I wouldn't change if you're running a flat tappet engine. The roller engines seem to be okay with the multi-viscosity oils. I started using the Kendall AKA Brad Penn in the 80's. I ran it in a turbo vehicle before turbo specifics came to be. It held up much better than Castrol ever did. Despite the fact its 9.00 a quart for the break in, I feel safe with it and it's protection properties.
He is talking about going from a 10W40 with high ZDDP to a 10W30 with high ZDDP.
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I wouldn't change if you're running a flat tappet engine. The roller engines seem to be okay with the multi-viscosity oils. I started using the Kendall AKA Brad Penn in the 80's. I ran it in a turbo vehicle before turbo specifics came to be. It held up much better than Castrol ever did. Despite the fact its 9.00 a quart for the break in, I feel safe with it and it's protection properties.
My understanding is the hydraulic roller engines can be the MOST sensitive to oil viscosity.
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Heo, you're scaring me LOL! Have you got a link to any of those reports?
Its the one C8OZ linked to
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Didn't read everything on the Rat's site, but he doesn't spell out the testing procedure or the statistical repeatability of the testing.
Have to agree on the 5K mile oil change though.
Interesting ideas on larger clearances and a high pressure/high volume oil pump.
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All three hot rods need oil changes, along with the Mack. Gunno be an expensive day!
I just got my $100 gift card for Summit from my racing group at the banquet last weekend, so I'll get a case ready for the wagon. Need almost two more cases for the other two. The Mack eats 6 gal of Rotella.
The good part is the Mack filters are cheaper then a FL1A! Straight from Mack even? I've wondered how they make these huge things for cheaper then a little FL1a?
I've always run Val VR1 20w/50 without issues. No sense in changing now.
I just googled VR1, Zoro has it for $6.79/qt. $50 orders ship free? Might look into a big order. Most places have it around $10/qt.
https://www.zoro.com/valvoline-motor-oil-1-qt-amber-20w-50-sae-grade-822347/i/G3964619/
Summit has it for $7.99.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/vlv-vv211/overview/
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Well, the old saying “If it’s to good to be true it’s probably not true” has proven to be true....., just got this from Amazon.
Hello,
We're contacting you about order for Valvoline 10W-30 VR1 Racing Motor Oil - 1qt (Case of 6) (822388-6PK). We recently learned that an error caused this item to be displayed at an incorrect price.
This was our mistake, and we'll honor the incorrect price for one of the items you ordered. However, we're unable to honor the price for multiple quantities of this item. Therefore, we've adjusted the quantity of your order to 1.
We're sorry about this. At any given time, despite our best efforts, a small number of the millions of items on our site may be mispriced.
The correct price is listed on our website now, so if you'd like to place another order for more of this item, you can do so here:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DJ4FMK2
We value your business and hope to see you again soon.
Sincerely,
Customer Service
Amazon.com
Guess I was lucky to get one case. They.are showing the correct price of $23.99 (but temporarily out of stock) which is still about half of what I was getting it for at Summit. Might still order a couple more cases. Hopefully they aren’t coming from the Russian supplier HEO described. LOL
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They are out of stock after the cops busted the Russian
oil mixing outfit ??? ??? ??? and my counterfeit Bosch
tacho from Amazon..........something tells me i not buying
any oil from them. Not even to lube a bicycle chain ;D
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That sucks the real McCoy my buddy saw it a day before I told you guys about it. He
Bought 10 cases. I will see him at work today and see if he got the whole order.
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I just spoke to my buddy he got all ten cases. His buddy ordered 10 and is only getting one.
Go figure?
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Hey Stangman, looks like your buddy got lucky and his buddy and I ordered after they figured out the price was wrong. Oh well, one is better than none. I did order a couple more cases at the $23.99 price, still only $4.00 a quart but the delivery is out quite bit, hope they show up.
The weird thing to me is the "conventional" 10W30 Valvoline that I use on my daily drivers is $49.38 for a case of 6 on Amazon, more than double their current price on the VR-1 Racing Oil. I usually pay about $20 for it locally. Wonder if they notice they are not selling much at that price....
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Someone in Jackson, Mi ??
VR1 20w50 for only $4.79!! But in store pickup only. Dangnabit.
https://www.farmandfleet.com/products/279555-valvoline-20w50-vr-1-racing-motor-oil.html
The Zoro link I posted is already increasing the price to $7.03/qt.
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Went to Summit yesterday and got 36 qts of oil. When they rang me up, they gave me 20% off since the order was over $250! Winning!! That along with my $100 gift card I got off pretty cheap.
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The $12 Amazon case finally made it. Looks legit in every way I can compare.
Same as above, they cut the order to one case from four citing a pricing error.