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FE Power Forums => Non-FE Discussion Forum => Topic started by: winr1 on December 25, 2018, 05:42:22 AM
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I have 12 or so 4100's totally apart, 6 x 2100's, 4 Holley 600 CFM 4 barrels, and 1 500 cfm holley
Also, 2 400 CFM AFB carbs
Am not sure what all was colored on the Autolite carbs....
I live close to Houston, Texas but have had no luck finding any who does work such as this
It seems I cannot have the Autolite bodies anodized as they have the brass inserts in the power valve curcuit
Also, 2 brass tubes where the power valve gets its vacuum
I dont wish to sell a carb that will end up with tarnish on the aluminum body nor rust on the steel linkage bits
Ricky.
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I guess you missed the other thread, where Drew made it very clear that you need to spend a minimum of 25 hours a day for 20 years to learn this closely guarded black art. Drew is the last of the Chromate Clan. All others have died of old age and fumes. Send your stuff to him.
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I really regret unblocking you.
Felony, I have given WAY more information to you and to many others, than pretty much anyone else would.
There is no secret. I’ve told you how to do it. Buy the chems, buy some books, educate yourself and experiment until you get good results.
If you are incapable of doing that, please do not blame me for your lack of effort.
Again, I will use the example, if you had five engine blocks, and you wanted to build five perfectly done engines. Do you buy $150,000 worth of tools, and dedicate years to learning how to machine the parts, or do you hire someone that has already done that?
If you went the route of diving in to learn, I’d be happy to help when you hit a wall.
But if you are too stupid and lazy to try and just want some magical “secret” to be given, you will be waiting a long time, there is no magic bullet. Just hard work and studying.
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Felony, I have given WAY more information to you and to many others, than pretty much anyone else would.
Drew, there are a LOT of people here who actually have an appreciation for what you've shared. I'm in that category. I hope you don't let one person ruin that. Some people just aren't happy unless they're bitching about something.
Ricky, as far as I know, just based on observation, all the older Autolite carbs were pretty basic. I don't know what coatings you would call them, but all the bodies that I've seen were just the basic aluminum color, no gold or anything that you see with Holleys. As far as the metal parts, they weren't gold colored either, just some sort of plating on the metal, like maybe a gray phosphate, if there is such a color? I've had a couple of NOS Autolites over the years, and they were both that way, at least as far as I remember. It's been a few years though...
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Felony, I have given WAY more information to you and to many others, than pretty much anyone else would.
Drew, there are a LOT of people here who actually have an appreciation for what you've shared. I'm in that category. I hope you don't let one person ruin that. Some people just aren't happy unless they're bitching about something.
Look who's talking. I spent 30 years in automotive electrical working on thousands of cars. I would have been happy to help you beat your hot soak step by step. But no, MY input was deemed "intuition" and could not compete with your "experience". At this point I could not care less if your POS ignites and burns to hell. Shoe fits? Wear it.
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I really regret unblocking you.
Is there blocking built into this prog's software? No, so I say BS. If there was, you wouldn't have seen my post, and you couldn't have replied. Blocking is for people who don't have the strength to simply not read what they don't want to. Ever notice how the post count here nose dives when I take a break?
Felony, I have given WAY more information to you and to many others, than pretty much anyone else would.
There is no secret. I’ve told you how to do it. Buy the chems, buy some books, educate yourself and experiment until you get good results.
If you are incapable of doing that, please do not blame me for your lack of effort.
I distinctly remember thanking you for your help. Forgot already?
Again, I will use the example, if you had five engine blocks, and you wanted to build five perfectly done engines. Do you buy $150,000 worth of tools, and dedicate years to learning how to machine the parts, or do you hire someone that has already done that?
I have 58 cars and over a hundred Holleys. Part of the attraction of this hobby is to do as much of the work as I can, because it is satisfying. With your logic, I should just pay off someone to do EVERY damn thing to these cars while I pick my nose. Not in this lifetime, bud.
If you went the route of diving in to learn, I’d be happy to help when you hit a wall.
So, I was wrong in trying to weed out the dead ends before I begin? Really? Do you understand the concept of doing homework?
But if you are too stupid and lazy to try and just want some magical “secret” to be given, you will be waiting a long time, there is no magic bullet. Just hard work and studying.
Since no one with a brain actually thinks I'm stupid, let me return the favor. The "real" reason I posted that NOS carb ad was to see what you are doing, as several discussions I've had on the phone with others have resulted in a thumbs down on your appearance procedure. Based on pics from yourself and your buyers, yours are the wrong shade, no colorizing, and flat instead of sheen. Part of research is finding out what NOT to do. But, I did not criticize your work in this open forum until you just gave me reason.
You make think I'm stupid, but I'm always one or more steps ahead. Been that way all my life. Feel free to "block" me again. As they say, LOL!
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Thanks guys
Was looking at these
http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/mump-1012-autolite-4100-carburetor-installation/photo-gallery/#3
http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/29480294+w620+re0/mump_1012_16_%2Bautolite_4100_carburetor_installation%2Banti_stall_dashpot.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BFUHMFtb01k/hqdefault.jpg
Not much color on this one
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/Clevelands/imageproxy.php?url=http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h51/gp_fillmore/Technical%20Images/4100tornapart.jpg
https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/123541534430_/1962-Ford-Thunderbird-Autolite-4100-Carburetor-for.jpg
Looks like steel bits only
http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/156650304+w650+h650+cr1+st0/004-mustang-hipo-k-code-identification.jpg
Some aluminum carbs and intakes down here close to Houston, Texas will get spots of white powder on them in certain months
I thought the sideways 4100's that are going on my Ed. 2x4 intake would look good Holley gold or perhaps a titanium or black color
Ricky.
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-Yes there is a blocking option, sadly it shows the person made a post and had a link you can click to see the post.
-yes you thanked me, and immediately took to this post to whine about how I wouldn’t help you. Passive aggressive actions...
-58 cars? Cool, so dig in. Buy the supplies, build a plating station, read the tech manuals, and try. Don’t just sit in the corner crying because you aren’t willing to work for it.
-I’m happy to hear that you spend time on the phone talking about my carbs. When I got started, I told my potential customer base that this was a learning experience. They bought a ticket knowing full well the stuff wasn’t going to be correct. This was needed to gain experience and income to further the research. A year has gone by where every minute was spent studying or practicing this art. I can replicate almost all factory looks now. It’s been a fun process learning. If you want to try it, good luck, but you won’t get much help saying “thanks” while slinking off to another thread where you can cry about no one helping you, the most fragile ego in FePower.
One thing I have learned. There is no “factory look.” Over the years quality and chemical purity was all over the place. But as I mentioned in the other thread, the purpose wasn’t for cosmetics, it was done originally to protect the alloy from corrosion.
-I have a thread on this very forum that details the first six or so months of my progress. I made mention of methods I was trying, etc. I’ve shared the whole experience. You all got to witness the success and failures. I doubt you’d be capable of the same.
Isn’t it time for you to go off for another month or two? We can all suffer the reduced post count.
Ricky,
You should take a look at Tobbe’s autolites he’s been doing. They look pretty fantastic he uses a vapor hone machine. If you like the look, there is a fella I know that has a vapor hone service.
The fella I talked to quoted me about $20 a carb, which seems low. If you want contact info, let me know. I can’t comment on Autolites as I haven’t had time to mess with them and discover the best way to deal with them.
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I would have been happy to help you beat your hot soak step by step. But no, MY input was deemed "intuition" and could not compete with your "experience". At this point I could not care less if your POS ignites and burns to hell. Shoe fits? Wear it.
I guess reading comprehension isn't your "thing", because I stated that the issue was resolved with a better starter. Not a single hesitation or slow crank now. Maybe some day we'll actually get to see all (or even one) of these cars that you have, but most likely you'll just keep blessing us with your bullshit and whining. But hey, thanks for your concern if my car burns to the ground.
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Hey Drew
I would like contact info on the fella you know please
Also, is there a link to Tobbe ?? .... perhaps a post on this forum ??
Thanks much
Ricky.
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No problem Ricky. I’ll pm you the guys info when I get inside.
I just spent ten hours in a car to go hang out with an old carb guy.
He worked for Shelby the wood bros etc during the heyday of these cars.
Was well worth the trip, he had some really neat stuff, and great to talk with.
Tobbe is on this forum, he posts pictures on Facebook. His recent autolites look stellar, he’d be the guy to talk to.
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For the record, all I really own is three pickups and two Crown Vics. I lied so I could fit into this forum. I am a lonely society's reject, and I just want someone to like me because my fragility is constantly under attack. Things are bad for me at this time of the year because I see all these people going here and there with their loved ones, and I have nobody. I just don't know how to function any more. Obviously, the Net is not for me. I wish you all the best.
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Mr Felony
I have enough FE parts left to build 4 or 5 mills
I say we install one in a pickup, gasser style, I have an F1 straight axle .....
Gut, chop an swiss cheese every spot that can be got to ..
Spritton spritton !!! ....
Ricky.
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Thanks Drew
Sounds like a trip well worth it :-)
Ricky.
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It was a great trip. Truly the best part of this hobby is the super cool folks we meet along the way, Sadly I never seem to have enough time with these people.
I was especially interested in his center squirter from the 1965 Nascar Riverside race that the Wood Bro's gave him. Was interesting, and data was collected. Just cool to see what "they" were doing at that time as cutting edge stuff.
Anyway, here is a link to Tobbe's Autolite build. I'd send inquiries his way. Shame he's in Sweden, or we could share the workload, I get a lot of requests for Autolites and Rochesters, but have had to limit myself to just Ford Holley stuff due to time constraints. I hope the link works, Facebook is weird sometimes.
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The fella I was wanting to use for vapor blasting is here:
https://www.ebay.com/usr/re_motor_cycle_parts?ul_noapp=true
I desperately want to buy a vapor blaster, but without having the $2-5k to cough up on a "maybe" I contacted him about doing some parts for me so I could test them out. he quoted me a pretty reasonable price. I'm on the fence about building/buying a large industrial plate vibratory polisher or a vapor hone machine, both are a huge investment for someone like me that does 100-125 carbs a year.
Anyway, might be worth a shot sending him one just to see how it works out.
He isn't a carb builder, so it'd be just blasting the parts, but I doubt that is a problem for you.