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Title: Part I.D.
Post by: Royce on February 20, 2018, 11:27:24 AM
I think I know what this is but I thought I would ask the experts.. Us Y block/MEL guys sometimes have incomplete knowledge of modern engines.


Title: Re: Part I.D.
Post by: machoneman on February 20, 2018, 12:07:10 PM
An oil filter mount as you know. But it appears to allow an oil cooler hookup. Maybe marine or heavy truck?  :-\
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Post by: Royce on February 20, 2018, 12:19:23 PM
I was hoping for Super Cobrajet part but I am thinking truck too.
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Post by: machoneman on February 20, 2018, 12:22:13 PM
I was hoping for Super Cobrajet part but I am thinking truck too.

Hah! Super Cobra Jet!

But.....the later GT-40, FE equipped distance racers did of course use engine oil coolers. I don't know if they used the two taps on a similar filter mount to route the oil to a cooler. Anybody know? 
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Post by: jayb on February 20, 2018, 01:48:26 PM
LMAO modern engines!  Not sure what you got there, Royce, I've never seen one like that...
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Post by: Nightmist66 on February 20, 2018, 01:57:01 PM
If it's what it looks like, it is a dual port adapter for the 427. Worth some money...
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Post by: scott foxwell on February 20, 2018, 02:28:58 PM
One channel has to be "out" and the other "in" for that to work with a cooler. That's the "in" passage to the block, from the filter. Just looks to be two sources for oil pressure senders unless that top horizontal passage isn't drilled all the way through.

 
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Post by: Nightmist66 on February 20, 2018, 02:54:29 PM
Scott is right, not intended for a cooler. Prolly has something like a C3AE-6884-A number?
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Post by: Royce on February 20, 2018, 03:09:56 PM
You nailed the part number.

Both passages intersect the filter outlet passage.
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Post by: GJCAT427 on February 20, 2018, 04:29:58 PM
Yep the 427 dual port adapter. I got 2 of them setting in the garage waiting to go on my 427s. Always looking for another.
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Post by: ntheogen on February 21, 2018, 04:42:53 AM
Those are hard to come by and fetch a few pennies. I have one someone made, the only way to tell is by the incorrect part number.
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Post by: babybolt on February 21, 2018, 08:04:17 AM
64 64 Galaxie 427, two ports for two oil pressure sensors, stock idiot light and gauge.  Hard to find.
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Post by: Royce on February 21, 2018, 09:04:13 AM
hmmm even better than an SCJ part..!!!  Without arousing the ire of the site owner for doing commerce on this section of the forum anybody want to give a ballpark on value?
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Post by: Nightmist66 on February 21, 2018, 09:19:45 AM
Last couple I saw on eBay went for $250-350.
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Post by: gt350hr on February 21, 2018, 12:34:14 PM
If it's what it looks like, it is a dual port adapter for the 427. Worth some money...

   +1  427 only.  There is another odd one that was made for the  Cammer .  The front port is angled and it has an XE number instead.
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Post by: RJP on February 21, 2018, 01:18:57 PM
I'll add my .02 cents here...I say the 2nd port is for a oil temperature sender. Was offered on some FEs sold in hot climates. When activated it will cause the dashboard oil light to blink [think turn signal here]. I've seen some references to this in some shop manuals.
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Post by: GJCAT427 on February 21, 2018, 05:09:28 PM
As far as value I paid 100 for 1 several yrs ago and last yr I gave 125 for the second. These were both swapmeet Items.
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Post by: RJP on February 21, 2018, 07:05:18 PM
I'll add my .02 cents here...I say the 2nd port is for a oil temperature sender. Was offered on some FEs sold in hot climates. When activated it will cause the dashboard oil light to blink [think turn signal here]. I've seen some references to this in some shop manuals.
To add: The 1966 Ford/ Mercury shop manual has a reference to the oil temp warning light used on both Ford and Mercurys set to activate at 315 deg.F [Sec. 15 pg. 14] With Mercurys that used a oil press. gauge the temp warning light was added to the dash with the gauge. 
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Post by: chris401 on February 23, 2018, 03:01:12 PM
I'll add my .02 cents here...I say the 2nd port is for a oil temperature sender. Was offered on some FEs sold in hot climates. When activated it will cause the dashboard oil light to blink [think turn signal here]. I've seen some references to this in some shop manuals.
To add: The 1966 Ford/ Mercury shop manual has a reference to the oil temp warning light used on both Ford and Mercurys set to activate at 315 deg.F [Sec. 15 pg. 14] With Mercurys that used a oil press. gauge the temp warning light was added to the dash with the gauge.
That is correct but the pickups used the single port pickup oil filter adapter with a steel log that the sensor and the sender screwed into. Thise were common in 65s also. Mine is burried but if I can find a picture I will post it.

This is the same common Ford extention only the pickup sender/sensor has an extra port drilled in thr side:
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Post by: chris401 on February 23, 2018, 04:06:02 PM
I'll add my .02 cents here...I say the 2nd port is for a oil temperature sender. Was offered on some FEs sold in hot climates. When activated it will cause the dashboard oil light to blink [think turn signal here]. I've seen some references to this in some shop manuals.
To add: The 1966 Ford/ Mercury shop manual has a reference to the oil temp warning light used on both Ford and Mercurys set to activate at 315 deg.F [Sec. 15 pg. 14] With Mercurys that used a oil press. gauge the temp warning light was added to the dash with the gauge.
That is correct but the pickups used the single port pickup oil filter adapter with a steel log that the sensor and the sender screwed into. Thise were common in 65s also. Mine is buried but if I can find a picture I will post it.

This is the same common Ford extention only the pickup sender/sensor has an extra port drilled in thr side:
This cast iron piece is from an Industrial 428 but may have been used on trucks as well. I have not confermed for sure but the C4TE-6881-B threaded ports look like it has two ports on the pressure side and two on the engine oil feed side. Some FT blocks had the air compressor drainback on the passenger skirt.

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Post by: cammerfe on February 24, 2018, 01:02:34 PM
Had one like that on my '64 Custom/427. Two senders---one for the oil pressure idiot light, and one for an oil temperature idiot light. Scared me s***less when it came on at the end of my first trip down Milan. The guys from DST were there and I was told it was typical for that momentary 'hot' light after a load such as a trip down the quarter.

I fixed it by creating a deep sump pan from a spare from the boneyard. Cut a hole in the factory pan to let the pick-up stick through---I extended it with a piece of 1/2 inch thinwall---and used as much of the boneyard pan as I could to deepen the pan. The remains of the original sump acted as a sort of baffle.

No more problems with the idiot lights. (I also installed an oil pressure gauge.)

KS
Title: Re: Part I.D.
Post by: gt350hr on February 26, 2018, 01:23:22 PM
I'll add my .02 cents here...I say the 2nd port is for a oil temperature sender. Was offered on some FEs sold in hot climates. When activated it will cause the dashboard oil light to blink [think turn signal here]. I've seen some references to this in some shop manuals.
To add: The 1966 Ford/ Mercury shop manual has a reference to the oil temp warning light used on both Ford and Mercurys set to activate at 315 deg.F [Sec. 15 pg. 14] With Mercurys that used a oil press. gauge the temp warning light was added to the dash with the gauge.
That is correct but the pickups used the single port pickup oil filter adapter with a steel log that the sensor and the sender screwed into. Thise were common in 65s also. Mine is burried but if I can find a picture I will post it.

This is the same common Ford extention only the pickup sender/sensor has an extra port drilled in thr side:

   Your picture is for a small block 260,289,302.
Title: Re: Part I.D.
Post by: Nightmist66 on February 28, 2018, 11:20:35 PM
+1  427 only.  There is another odd one that was made for the  Cammer .  The front port is angled and it has an XE number instead.


Here is one currently for sale:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/290396945735