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Title: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: billtroth on February 04, 2018, 04:32:26 PM
I have the motor out of my ’64 Galaxie NSS car and I am considering using solid motor mounts when I re-install it. I have been running the chain to block trick but looks odd and, I need space for plumbing in Accusump tank. I am a little leery of fabricating a block plate with my limited welding skills. I have seen a post here on pinning the stock motor mounts with 3/8” bolts but, unless I am missing something that will only effect the passenger side.  Also, I run a marine block and there are 4 holes machined for four-hole mount which I would like to use in lieu of the 2 bolt stock mounts.  Has anyone fabricated and run solid motor mounts in their Galaxie with good results?  Any advice would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance for input.
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: gdaddy01 on February 04, 2018, 04:48:24 PM
it would effect the driver's side , I run the bolts through the rubber mounts and works ok for me . I think if you run solid mounts on a street car you will have more vibration than you want to put up with . jmo
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: wowens on February 04, 2018, 05:04:10 PM
I have run a front motor plate with a urethane trans mount, vibration was not a issue. Mostly street with a few mid 10 passes.
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: machoneman on February 04, 2018, 05:32:02 PM
Solid (steel, not bolts in OEM rubber mounts) mounts are fine.

Just don't also run a solid trans mount as you WILL break a tranny case! Ask me how I know this!
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: Nightmist66 on February 04, 2018, 06:34:22 PM
I agree with gdaddy. You only need to pin the driver mount, as it is the one trying to separate. Not a fan of solid mounts unless it is a block plate. Too much stress on the side of the block. Not sure if there are any aftermarket poly mounts for your Galaxie. I found a nice set for my car, that doesn't require a torque strap.

Edit: Maybe give this place a try if you don't want to pin your mounts. It says they have custom mounts for an FE.

http://www.tinmanfabrication.com
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: billtroth on February 04, 2018, 07:30:35 PM
Thanks for the information.  The car is a strip only Nostalgia Super Stock with no street use.  Jay's '64 Galaxie SOHC is one of the highest H.P. Galaxies there is.  Jay ( or anyone else knows ) what mounts does it have? 
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: jayb on February 04, 2018, 10:53:59 PM
I use stock mounts with the bolt through them as described earlier in the thread.  Never had a problem.
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: billtroth on February 05, 2018, 01:24:43 PM
Jay, thank you very much for the information.  If that worked for you on your 9 second car it sure will work in my ( hopefully, its low 11's best now) high 10 second Galaxie. I'll drill and bolt.

Bill
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: Jim Comet on February 05, 2018, 03:23:08 PM
Do you also run a limiting strap when using the bolt through the motor mount on the higher horsepower cars?
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: Falcon67 on February 05, 2018, 04:26:06 PM
I use a 3/8 turnbuckle from the frame to the head.  Also have done the 3/8 bolt in a motor mount trick - never had an issue with that. 
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: jayb on February 05, 2018, 05:31:11 PM
Do you also run a limiting strap when using the bolt through the motor mount on the higher horsepower cars?

I never used a limiting strap on my Galaxie, just the bolted together mount.
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: Jim Comet on February 05, 2018, 06:31:53 PM
So you don't think with an oem block at the 600hp level that the twisting forces on the block where the mount attaches could possibly stress or distort the block?
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: jayb on February 05, 2018, 06:47:38 PM
My opinion is that's not a concern.
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: John67427 on February 06, 2018, 11:07:54 AM
Years ago, in the early 1970’s after breaking a few and not thinking about running a bolt thru , my brother made a solid set. He took measurements and removed the rubber. He then took strap steel and welded it to the outside perimeter. I’ve used them to this day. Not something I would do on a street vehicle as you really feel engine vibration in the car. Solid engine mount be sure to use urethane trans mount...
 Used these on 4 different FE motors from 12,11,10 and 9 seconds and it doesn’t affect the mount area
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: BattlestarGalactic on February 06, 2018, 01:10:55 PM
Many years back I made my own solid mounts using angle iron.  Worked fine and used them in my black car for years.  I finally wanted to get rid of the shaky vibration and put stock mounts back in it with a turnbuckle on the drivers side.
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: gdaddy01 on February 07, 2018, 02:08:51 PM
If you are going to use the bolt through mount , I would suggest using a good grade of self locking nut on the bolt , that way you don't have to over tighten the nut on the bolt .
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: billtroth on February 08, 2018, 12:15:59 PM
 Thanks.  I'll remember to do that.  Also some red Loctite.
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: babybolt on February 08, 2018, 04:50:01 PM
I've run solid engine mounts on the street/strip for quite a while.  Replaced the rubber with welded in spacers.  Noise and vibration increase is noticeable, but not as bad as you would think.  The inside rear view mirror goes into a synchronous vibration which is annoying, but other than that, not too bad.   Wouldn't do it on a daily driver or a car that would travel cross country.
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: 57 lima bean on February 09, 2018, 04:32:43 PM
At one time I thought a torque strap was needed to pass tech.It should be in most cases.My car had a contoured piece of flat stock coming from the left head to the frame.This worked well for a while.After a couple of years I found that the leverage was crushing the right motor mount.The car now has straps on both sides.
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: olman on February 10, 2018, 05:19:59 PM
While on the subject of motor mounts, I have a question. I have a '67 428 in my 631/2  Galaxie 500 XL. It has the 63 motor mounts on it now, but wondering if the 67 style mounts will allow the bolt to line up in the hole on the 63. And would this be a stronger set-up if so?
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: fryedaddy on February 12, 2018, 01:14:02 PM
I HAVE RUN STOCK MOUNTS FOR YEARS ON THE STREET WITH TWO SHORT CHAINS WITH A SMALL AMOUNT OF SLACK IN THEM,IT HAS NEVER FAILED ME ON STREET ENGINES
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: babybolt on February 14, 2018, 08:36:01 AM
While on the subject of motor mounts, I have a question. I have a '67 428 in my 631/2  Galaxie 500 XL. It has the 63 motor mounts on it now, but wondering if the 67 style mounts will allow the bolt to line up in the hole on the 63. And would this be a stronger set-up if so?

So your question is what is the interchangeability of early and later stock FE engine mounts?
Title: Re: Solid motor mounts for '64 Galaxie NSS car
Post by: 427HISS on March 02, 2018, 07:20:04 PM
I HAVE RUN STOCK MOUNTS FOR YEARS ON THE STREET WITH TWO SHORT CHAINS WITH A SMALL AMOUNT OF SLACK IN THEM,IT HAS NEVER FAILED ME ON STREET ENGINES

That's because I've heard your motor only puts out 150 HP.  :P (kidding)

What size chains are yours ?
If I don't make soild mounts, I may go old school with a strap.