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Title: Did anybody ever make a 3x2 manifold for the Cleveland engine? n/m
Post by: bsprowl on December 29, 2017, 09:33:37 PM
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Title: Re: Did anybody ever make a 3x2 manifold for the Cleveland engine? n/m
Post by: Barry_R on December 29, 2017, 09:59:36 PM
I have seen exactly one factory 3x2 for a Cleveland.
Local Detroit guy owned it back in the early 1980s.
Put it on a Mustang IIRC using Mopar carbs
Title: Re: Did anybody ever make a 3x2 manifold for the Cleveland engine? n/m
Post by: thatdarncat on December 30, 2017, 02:50:39 PM
10 years ago I purchased a soft bound book called the Tri-Power Bulletin by Michael G. Brattland. I don’t know if it’s still available. All about various Ford 3-2V set-ups. In the book he has pictures of a bare 351C intake owned by Ron Miller and another set-up on a running car, with Mopar carbs, could be the same one Barry saw, I don’t know. He also mentioned a different intake Rick Kirk owned with interchangeable tops, one being a 3-2V, no picture of that one. Here’s some pictures from the book.

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Title: Re: Did anybody ever make a 3x2 manifold for the Cleveland engine? n/m
Post by: machoneman on December 30, 2017, 04:15:48 PM
Only Ford did but it was an XE experimental piece, very, very rare!

Way down the page under Experimental Intakes with a XE part#:

http://www.mustangtek.com/FordIntake.html
Title: Re: Did anybody ever make a 3x2 manifold for the Cleveland engine? n/m
Post by: babybolt on December 30, 2017, 07:39:38 PM
DST made a Cleveland intake with a removable top.  There was a 2V, 4v, and 6V top, maybe others.  Very rare, not many survived.  The tooling existed up to about 8 years ago when it was inexplicably destroyed.
Title: Re: Did anybody ever make a 3x2 manifold for the Cleveland engine? n/m
Post by: bsprowl on December 30, 2017, 08:59:39 PM
Thanks.

Bob
Title: Re: Did anybody ever make a 3x2 manifold for the Cleveland engine? n/m
Post by: GJCAT427 on December 31, 2017, 07:28:09 AM
As far as I know That book by Brattland is still available. I bought one in  Jan 2015 He even sent a note and signed the book.  I spent several hrs reading it. Lot of info.
Title: Re: Did anybody ever make a 3x2 manifold for the Cleveland engine? n/m
Post by: gt350hr on January 02, 2018, 11:31:20 AM
   There were two different versions of the 351C tri power. the differences mainly dealt wit the testing of an air pump that ultimately was not used on the production Boss 351. Tri power manifolds were made for Tunnel port 302s ( one on display at Powered By Ford in Orlando FL.) and I have the SK numbers for the carburetors.  I have seen the actual patterns for one for a Boss 302. I can not confirm any were ever cast. The DST manifold had interchangeable tops. A friend in OH owns one with several tops including a single 2bbl.
Title: Re: Did anybody ever make a 3x2 manifold for the Cleveland engine? n/m
Post by: Dumpling on January 03, 2018, 12:51:32 PM
http://tmpcarbs.blogspot.com/p/sbf-bbf-fe-ford-tri-power-3x2-six-pack.html

OR

You could get a 289/302 tri-power and use a Price Motorsports intake adapter to mount it on a Cleveland.
Title: Re: Did anybody ever make a 3x2 manifold for the Cleveland engine? n/m
Post by: gt350hr on January 03, 2018, 01:13:32 PM
  Far cheaper and gives great street performance. The original Ford 351C tri power used modified Chrysler six pack carbs reworked by Holley's Ed Droste (rip). It is possible to get them replicated but is pretty expensive compared to the 289/Price combo.
Title: Re: Did anybody ever make a 3x2 manifold for the Cleveland engine? n/m
Post by: Falcon67 on January 04, 2018, 04:31:32 PM
And that looks like nothing more than three fancy 2 bbl Holleys on a custom plenum box, sitting on a 2x4 intake.  Could be more to it, but that's what it looks like from the pics.
Title: Re: Did anybody ever make a 3x2 manifold for the Cleveland engine? n/m
Post by: cammerfe on January 04, 2018, 04:48:37 PM
  Far cheaper and gives great street performance. The original Ford 351C tri power used modified Chrysler six pack carbs reworked by Holley's Ed Droste (rip). It is possible to get them replicated but is pretty expensive compared to the 289/Price combo.

My contact at EEE was Harold Droste, who worked for Holley but went to work in Dearborn every day. Do you know what relation 'Ed' might have been to Harold? This would have been in the mid-late '60s.

KS
Title: Re: Did anybody ever make a 3x2 manifold for the Cleveland engine? n/m
Post by: WConley on January 04, 2018, 06:49:33 PM
  Far cheaper and gives great street performance. The original Ford 351C tri power used modified Chrysler six pack carbs reworked by Holley's Ed Droste (rip). It is possible to get them replicated but is pretty expensive compared to the 289/Price combo.

My contact at EEE was Harold Droste, who worked for Holley but went to work in Dearborn every day. Do you know what relation 'Ed' might have been to Harold? This would have been in the mid-late '60s.

KS

Ken - Did you ever meet Dennis Micek?  He was an ex- Holley engineer who worked with me for a little while at EEE.  Dennis had a rare prototype turbo Cosworth Vega, and a 390 4-speed AMX.  Nice guy!

(I guess that's about as off-topic as you can get!!)
Title: Re: Did anybody ever make a 3x2 manifold for the Cleveland engine? n/m
Post by: cammerfe on January 04, 2018, 11:25:51 PM
I don't remember the name, although I'm bad at names and there were times when I met several people at the same time. I sometimes 'met' people when I was given a name as a referral and talked to someone on the 'phone. Parts I'd inquired about would simply show up in the company inter-office mail. In a manila envelope with my name at the bottom of the list on the front with everyone else above me crossed-out.

Got two rods for a 'Boss 325' that way. The guy told me he had two setting in his office, on top of his filing cabinet, that he was about to throw out. Luckily, I only needed two. I got a block and crank really cheap, but there were only six rods with it. Used 292 bearings.

KS
Title: Re: Did anybody ever make a 3x2 manifold for the Cleveland engine? n/m
Post by: WConley on January 04, 2018, 11:58:31 PM
I don't remember the name, although I'm bad at names and there were times when I met several people at the same time. I sometimes 'met' people when I was given a name as a referral and talked to someone on the 'phone. Parts I'd inquired about would simply show up in the company inter-office mail. In a manila envelope with my name at the bottom of the list on the front with everyone else above me crossed-out.

Got two rods for a 'Boss 325' that way. The guy told me he had two setting in his office, on top of his filing cabinet, that he was about to throw out. Luckily, I only needed two. I got a block and crank really cheap, but there were only six rods with it. Used 292 bearings.

KS

Cool  :)  It's amazing what some guys had lying around.  One day I ran into Joe Balcerowiak and chatted him up about the 427 SOHC program.  This was before I could even dream of owning one, but I had listened to John Vermeersch whacking the throttle on his Starliner a few times.  Joe reached into a drawer and handed me an original cammer service manual.  I still have it today.

BTW - Joe also told me about a decent 427 GTE Cougar for sale for under $10K.  He said it would be a good investment.  I wish I had listened to him on that one!
Title: Re: Did anybody ever make a 3x2 manifold for the Cleveland engine? n/m
Post by: gt350hr on January 05, 2018, 11:06:19 AM
    Ken ,
        I got a  business card when I met "Ed" a long time ago.  I'd like to find the book that "I" believe was kept with the prototype numbers and non production list numbers. I have allot of SK info that came from Lee Morse. Some XE info and nothing on ASK parts ( the scientific stuff as Sizemore calls it)