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FE Power Forums => Member Projects => Topic started by: My427stang on June 26, 2012, 07:43:35 AM
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I caved and decided to spend a little money and build a 418
- Same block, .040 overbore, torque plate honed, square decked .015 cut
- SCAT 3.98 crank, for 9.97:1 compression, .010 deck clearance, internally balanced
- Les Schmader is going to port the D2TE-AA heads, gasket match to 1247, 2.09/1.66 undercut stem valves, light retainers, 110 closed, 280 open, end stands, Viton seals. He says to expect 270 cfm
- Worked Edelbrock RPM intake (off my 489 from its pre-EFI days) and a 1 inch spacer blended to match the intake
- 750 Holley (although I may try my 1000 HP series vac sec off the Mustang for fun)
- Same 270H cam but straight up instead of 4 degrees advanced, hoping it'll make power to 5200 ::) with the head work and good intake
- Hedman Headers
- Recurved Duraspark
- 3 inch mandrel bent duals with 50 series Deltaflows
The truck has 33 inch tall tires, a 4 speed, and 3.50s, it weighs 4100 lbs, thats why I stayed with the mild cam.
Should be a hell of a difference from the 8:1, Street Dominator unported combo it is replacing.
Although in its defense, that motor was sure an overachiever, it did everything well for years and ran hard even though it shouldn't have LOL
I built it in either 89 or 91, I cant remember and it was clean as a whistle, no blowby or ridge, bearings still look new, but it was 8:1 and .130 in the hole .....
Going in the 71, which is currently down to a bare frame getting some shiny back on it :)
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/Oct11RedTruck.jpg)
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Should be a another great overachiever. :D
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I had a '70 F150 4X4 back in the late 1980s. Another one of those vehicles I should have never sold. Mine only had a 360, though. Great looking truck, Ross, can't wait to see it in paint and with the new FE 8)
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Looks like it will be lots of fun! I love that series of truck, had a few of them, always tough. What are you using for rods/pistons?
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Made a little change
Going to be a 445 8) SCAT crank and rods, Probe pistons, all else the same ;)
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Ha! I see you are moving in the right direction... 8)
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Ha! I see you are moving in the right direction... 8)
I am counting on Les to get me some airflow :o The cam is pretty little, 224 @ .050 and .519 lift, I'll rock it back to 110 and cross my fingers.
More intake, head flow, carb, and a smidge more cam than a CJ, hoping it'll hang it past 5000, which would let it rev good enough for the combo, but whether the whole package will actually feed the added cubes the way I want it too is the question
If not, this winter it'll get more cam :)
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Well, not an engine update, but one step closer to having some color!
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/Bare.jpg)
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Looks good Ross! Not too much rust around the skirts. The chrome around the windshield ate my lunch on my 72. I will pay big$$$ to have somebody else replace the winshield next time.
With your 445, are you keeping the D2 heads for the exhaust ports?
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I am keeping the D2s for that reason, it has a pretty set of coated Hedman headers and I didn't want to cut them up
Les Schmader said he has my D2s to where they'll kick a stock Edelbrock's butt LOL His quote not mine. Apparently 270-ish CFM at my cam lift but we'll see, I dont have them back yet, they should be here early next week.
I went with CJ sized aftermarket valves, some chamber work, port match to a 1247 gasket, so we'll see!
BTW I agree on the glass removal with the chrome, what a PIA!
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270ish at .519 seems really good for D2s. I wish I could afford Mr Les. One things for sure, more cam will make a noticable difference if needed.
Our head work sounds identical. After all my work, I'm hoping for 285ish at .600ish out of my C4s. I'm trying to make up for my local altitude. 4500ft approx.
I love the red, are you keeping that color?
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I am, thats the factory Candy Apple color. Matter of fact, just got back from the shop, the cab is ready for paint except for firewall. it and the rest of the pieces should be painted by the end of the week and I can start reassembly
I think 280s are reasonable for worked C4s, an FE Forum friend named Rob Needles had a set done by Les and they were in the 280s and really nothing fancy, just a good port and valve job.
I actually considered welding up a set of used Edels for the truck, but then decided it would be too much hassle for a 5000 rpm stroker LOL
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Some pretty pics
Cab has not been cut and buffed yet, the last shot has :) I had some time today so all the bolt on parts are finished and waiting in the attic. (BTW Mrs Stang saw this pic by phone and asked if the parts were in our bedroom LOL, close, attic off the walk in closet)
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/Paint4.jpg)
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/Paint3.jpg)
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(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/Paint.jpg)
It's looking very pretty, and should look even better with a fresh 445 under the hood!
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Pretty indeed!
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Sweet! I love that color! Can't wait for Martha Stewart to see how nice that color looks indoors. There's gonna be a new line of paint at Kmart. ;D
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This is the first time I had Les Port for me, and I have to say I am pretty impressed
Not only because of decent numbers and nice work, but also because I gave him a list of things I wanted and he met it to the letter
The heads are D2TE-AA and I needed the exhaust port to stay the same height and width for my headers.
So I asked for a full port, 2.09/1.67 valves, new guides, machine for Viton seals, gasket match to 1247, but more than that, I wanted the port to copy a med riser port with a nice steady taper to the bowl. I also had him unshroud the intake valves a bit, and do the best he could without changing the exhaust port size
The numbers are decent, well above a box stock set of Edels or CJ iron, and should work well on my 445 truck motor with a .519 lift cam
. Lift Int Exh
.200 167 122
.300 217 166
.400 264 180
.500 273 182
.600 277 184
.700 277 186
It's no race motor, but should be a fun set of heads on a 10:1 445 with a 750, 1 inch spacer, a ported RPM and a 270H cam on 110 ICL
Here is an intake port and a chamber, I can't get a proper exhaust port pic to save my butt. All the exhaust pics look goofy but they are actually as well machined as the intake
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/Intake-2.jpg)
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/Chamber.jpg)
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Very nice! How did Les treat the short turn radius on the intake side? Did he lay it back at all?
I like the undercut valve stems. Any idea on what brand they are?
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I bought the parts, it was a budget build, everything was from Alex's Parts in CA
It's offshore stuff., this was planned to be a low RPM motor, to be honest I didn't expect Les to get the numbers he did out of these things
As far as the short turn, he ground on it to be sure, laid it back a bit, but its still a relatively sharp turn, which seems to make sense as the port pretty much flattens out above .500. Good for this application, but would be a turd on my Mustang LOL
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Ross did les do a baseline flow test on your virgin castings before any work was done? Im curious what the numbers were and under what testing conditions were used? That's a rockin' set of D2's for sure....
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He didnt, but most of them flow in the 220s, D2s and C8s are ugly puppies
I can't wait to see how the old girl does.
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I wonder if Les hogged iron out of the intake bowls until he was able to form the airfoils on the valve guide bosses? Or did he have to add weld to the boss? Anyhow.... that will be a feature I will do my best to copy.
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I was hoping to get the motor in the frame this weekend, but got some honey-dos to do as well, doesnt look like its going to happen
Here's some pics as it sat this AM though! Not pictured, I did get the rear glass in with a new seal and the gas tank reinstalled.
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/IMAG0035_zps57d2ada5.jpg)
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/IMAG0034_zps72daf994.jpg)
The business end, should be the better side of 450 hp, hoping anyway, first time I did something with real good heads and a baby cam!
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/445Truck3_zps1ae6d1fa.jpg)
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/445Truck1_zpsa5b2a27c.jpg)
There will be a 1 inch cloverleaf spacer under the 3310, I just set the carb on as it for a little more photogenic profile LOL
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Lookin' good Ross! That's gonna be a bad truck...
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Seeing the tell tale mark of CB antenna mount on the back of the cab and the saddle blanket seat covers immediately took me back to a very fun period in my life.
My friends and I REALLY tested the Built Ford Tough motto!!
That body style in a 1/2 ton short bed 4X4 ,with a 445, 33" tires, the color ....should be a sweet truck.
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Starting to really come together. Looks great.
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Thanks guys, on the "development" list while the bed is off is an over rider traction bar, much like a Shelby setup.
The old 397 used to wrap up the springs like nobody's business, I figure this will be worse. That and a true trac in the rear should get the rear to plant, sorta LOL
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Coming along real nice, what color red is that? Looks different from the shots you posted up.. lighting of course. That F100 is gonna pull really nice when you wrap it up.
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71 Ford Candy Apple Red, its the darker of the 2 reds Ford used back then. Original color
I did get something done this weekend, fuel tank and rear window glass. Sticker have been there since the 80s...
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/Windowin_zps1a533902.jpg)
A couple are peeling, will replace them with some from the modern build. May seem corny, but the truck has always been a little of a wild child, the stickers are sort of like a tattoo on a hot girl :)
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Love those stickers, and it gives me a great idea for a new topic...
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^^^ Tatoos on a hot girl... what a coincidence. You gotta have a look at that thread jab just posted. ;)
Like the color. Think I'd like mine a shade lighter in the sun though.
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Only a couple hours a weekend available, this military stuff is getting in the way of me building my truck! LOL
Three weeks straight, including weekends, of running a squadron and having base-wide exercises run concurrently. I have 75 days of leave on the books, I am about ready to take a good vacation!
About a month left of the exercises, then I should have some good down time to get it finished up, but here's a few pics of what I snuck in this weekend
At least it is IN the truck, and not sitting next to it!
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/Engine4_zpsfb5ca102.jpg)
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/Engine_zps91d3278d.jpg)
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Looking good... I'm pretty envious of the amount of space you have to work with minus the fenders and such.
75 days leave? Back when I was in they would not let us accumulate more than 60 at the end of the fiscal year. As it got closer to the deadline everyone was taking 3 and 4 day weekends. I guess "use it or lose it" no longer applies? When I got out back in "92" I sold 60 days back.. nice lil parting gift. ;D
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Don't worry, with a 489 FE in a Mustang, I get to play the "I can't believe it fits in there" game LOL
This is the last year of 75 days, with the long deployments an multiple dream destinations to deploy to :) they let us save a little more.
Its going back down to 60 on 1 Oct 13.
Unfortunately, with rank comes responsibility, I NEVER carried leave when I was young, now I have to take it on Sat and Sun to bleed it off.
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I retired in 99 and now work on the fed (non-military) side. Use or loose is about the same but I never seem to let it get that high! LOL!
Having to take leave on Sat and Sun just to bleed it off is just wrong!! ;D
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Love that truck too! It should be a very nice runner... i had a '67 F100 LWB I bought in '72, Two-tone Springtime yellow and Wimbledon white. It had a 352 2V with an oil bath air cleaner LOL! Being a California truck it had a thermactor emission system (air pump). Used to burn a valve every 50k miles or so... I still put 150k miles on it and in '75 sold it back to the buddy I bought it from, for the same amount I paid him in '72! I used that $$ for a down payment on our first home... So I second the statement - built Ford Tough!
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Getting there, put a nice shiny bed on it today!
As soon as we shoot the inner fenders and radiator support I can fire up the new 445!
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/BED1.jpg)
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Looks great, Ross...
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Coming along really nice! Is that a 3" exhaust?
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Looks great Ross! Any chance we could see how you got the exhaust past the transfer case and trans? I ended up with a mess I don't like with my 74 F100 4X4, but I need some ideas before I get started trying to fix it right.
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Ohhhh that looks nice! Needs a set of mudders now. 33" BFG's and she's race ready. lol Probably not!
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Looks great Ross! Any chance we could see how you got the exhaust past the transfer case and trans? I ended up with a mess I don't like with my 74 F100 4X4, but I need some ideas before I get started trying to fix it right.
I'll see if I can come up with something, its hard to take a pic that makes sense
Basically I used two 90 degree mandrel bends from the drivers side header, one turns the pipe to the pass side immediately and the other brings it back to follow the passenger frame rail.
The pass side uses a 45 degree out of the collector making it go up toward the cab floor, above the first pipe, and then another 45 to run both pipes back, over under style.
I then split the pipes after the cab to go back to normal locations.
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Looking really nice, Ross!
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Looking really good, and I'm not even a truck fan! This one seems to have just the right attitude. Baby FE build? Uh huh. Sure... lol
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The 445 is running
Pretty uneventful, filled the carb, filled it with water, turn the key and it lit off. No leaks, no issues, no nothing, I let it run while I put tools away
I brought it to 2000 rpm for 30 minutes, the cam was already run in, but I figured why not? Better safe than sorry.
I'll make a little movie tomorrow, it doesn't sound all that different than the 397 at idle, but it sure winds up with a quick bark compared to the 8:1 motor.
I think it's going to be a real good one
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Way to go, Ross! You'll have to take me for a ride :-)
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Always nice to have one fire up right the first time with no leaky.. leaky issues, grats! ;D
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Congrats on the new engine Ross! That one was an interesting build, I'll be very interested to hear how it performs when you get the chance.
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(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/th_445startup.jpg) (http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/445startup.mp4)
Sorry for the crappy video, the camera kept adjusting volume, espeically at the 30 second point LOL
It does have some lope, even with a 270H on 110 ICL, and quite a bit of snap. I'll try to get it on the road next weekend and see how it does
I will say this, after the EFI stroker in the Mustang, this is one cold blooded bitch LOL Don't be surprised if you see an EFI write up this summer. I am spoiled!
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man that thing does sound snappy. Must have gobs of low end torque, I bet it's fun as hell. Probably gets decent gas mileage too for what it is.
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Sounds solid.. great throttle response as well. ;)
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I saw your video on the other site. It sure sounds mean. 8)
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I like it! I like it! Needs a "high and tight" painted on it some place. 8)
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I like it! I like it! Needs a "high and tight" painted on it some place. 8)
Awesome!
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Hi Ross, Just wondering if you got it on the road yet.
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No Kevin, actually out of town right now. Christmas break I hope.
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Wish mine was that far along but I am a patient man I guess looks great. Can't wait to see it rolling.
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Thanks, I have had to find some patience too, there is another post on here about a bicep tear.
Right now the truck is surrounded by 4 rollaways and about 6500 lbs of tools to go through, but my left wing barely lets me tie my shoes ::)
I should be able to get to where I can take it for a good run in early February. I'll tell you, it sucks getting old, even at 44 injuries take longer to heal, I hate to see what it will be like at 84!
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Ross, I'm half way between you and 84 and I can tell you that you should still be goin strong! You will heal, and of course it will take time. I also love those '67-'72 trucks... I had a '67 long bed 2WD with a 352 2V, and bought it used in '72. I then put 150k miles on it and sold it 4 years later back to the guy I bought it from, for the same price! We'll enjoy hearing how yours performs once you get it back on the road.
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Thanks for the good words Bruce, I'll get there. I have a feeling that there will some surgery in my future, but we'll see
Slowly getting things done, unfortunately the injuries have me moving slow, but I haven't stopped!
Got the door hinges rebuilt, hung two doors and one fender. Should have the other fender and the door hardware together tomorrow!
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/Outside_zps01433e29.jpg)
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Looks like a new truck makes me want to start working on the 68 250 we got
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Your truck reminds me of my 68 F100. But I traded it for my 69 XR7 GT-390 Cougar Convertable. Nice truck. Clifford
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I got my tailgate on, not too exiting of an update, but I have been detailing every single piece and making everything look pretty. Having a loose shoulder and torn bicep is slowing me down more than I thought.
FWIW, I took my junkyard Ford panel, which had some scratched paint and cleaned/polished it a little. That's an original Ford piece from the early 70's, came out pretty decnt.
Still on the fence if I will paint the flat back background again, probably so, I usually prefer the stock look, but for now its sort of a 71 F100 "Platinum" Edition LOL
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/Tailgate_zpsc78a9614.jpg)
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I got my tailgate on, not too exiting of an update, but I have been detailing every single piece and making everything look pretty. Having a loose shoulder and torn bicep is slowing me down more than I thought.
FWIW, I took my junkyard Ford panel, which had some scratched paint and cleaned/polished it a little. That's an original Ford piece from the early 70's, came out pretty decnt.
Still on the fence if I will paint the flat back background again, probably so, I usually prefer the stock look, but for now its sort of a 71 F100 "Platinum" Edition LOL
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/Tailgate_zpsc78a9614.jpg)
Looking damn nice! If you are gonna hit that panel with flat black I'd reverse it and paint the lettering black and leave the background chrome.
My2c.
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I think it looks pretty good just the way it is. I'd leave it...
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Hi Ross
Helluva job for an airman with one wing. I.ll bet you can stand that truck on end out on the flight line. Your troops must love it Still don't know how you pass all those periodic P T tests the Air Force demands.
Say I will be back that way in early or mid April. We have a dealer here with cases upon cases of the Brad Penn oil. Can I bring you some back?
Larry in Denver
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Passed the last one with a torn bicep!
The key is, run hard once, or do it multiple times....what amazes me is that running an 8 minute mile for 1.5 miles I outrun a LOT of young kids and absolutely shouldn't. Its not slow for a 44 year old, but 20 year olds should run faster!
I think there is a "give a shit" factor that we old guys have that the young kids don't LOL
I may just take you up on the Brad Penn delivery, let me check what I have left, I bought some clearance stuff a while back need to see how much I have laying around
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I don't know if I agree with you on that running stuff Ross. I was only in the army for 3 years but I pushed myself hard (not to mention being pushed, lol) but I never could run worth a damn. Seemed like I got assigned to units where the CO wanted to run just a tad faster than I was able and I'd usually end up returning with another company that had been behind us. I never had a problem passing the PT tests and I never had a problem going the distance as long as I didn't have to go that farkin fast. They had me in to see the docs and I had all sorts of breathing tests, inhalers etc and nothing seemed to help. Now the interesting part, both my kids tried out for high school sports and told me they can't run worth a damn either.
Speaking of running, hows that truck doing man?? I see nice weather in store for you next week according to weather.com, hope you get a chance to burn some rubber =)
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Just waiting for one piece that I wasn't happy with to get resprayed, of course I saw it MONTHS ago and just remembered to drop it off Friday LOL
After that, hang the grille and its ready to take down the road.
Need to get it finished, itching to get it out and play with the Mustang again
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Today I got the grille together after painting all the small parts, although after this pic I think I will shift the hood over to the drivers side just a smidge
New bumper is on its way, and the baby west coast mirrors are disassembled, going to reassemble with all new stainless hardware.
After that its just the rain gutter moulding, the "Heavy Duty Special" badging, FORD on the hood, and put some miles on it.
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/Grille_zps48238970.jpg)
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Lookin' good, Ross. Can't wait to see a picture of that truck out of the shop...
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He's got a lot more patience than I'd have had. Were that beaut of a truck mine it'd already have a few hundred "around the block and through the field" miles on it. ;D
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looks great ....
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Like it a lot 8)
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Oh I took it out, needs a little TLC, picture this...
A couple circles around the block, no mirrors, no door panels, no seat belts, flat spots on the tires, no alignment and brakes a bit out of adjustment.
You can see where this is going :)
So my daughter and I decide we are going to open her up on the main drag....two 5500 rpm shifts and it does haul the mail, ALL over the road, I hit the brakes and it goes right then left, as my daughter is white knuckled LOL
We get to the next light after slowing down and there are 2 sheriffs cruisers sitting there. My daughter asks, "Think we are in trouble?" I told her not to make eye contact and laughed LOL I waved and drove straight back to the house.
I adjusted the brakes, but need to figure out why its all over the road :) The motor sure runs strong though, 5500 came very fast, much better than the old 390!
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The first drive is always a scary one for me, did I tighten those bolts, did I remember those clamps, you know all those things that cross your mind while the adrenaline is pumping LOL
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I would start with the track bar bushings and C- Bushings.
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They are all new, new poly c-bushings with 4 degrees roll back, new poly track bar bushings, new trunion bearings, you name it, its new with this build. The only thing that I havent rebuilt is the steering box, although it was fresh when I put it away 18 yrs ago :)
The toe is way out, I just didnt get to it. I also want to get a real measurement for caster and camber to determine if the c-bushings did what I want.
I will say though that the rear springs, despite new bushings and center bolts, are a stack of whatever I had at the shop 18-20 years ago.
The main leaves are original to the truck, and one leaf (an add a leave for the lift) in each pack is new and match, but the rest are a combination of anything I decided to cut or match up from the scrap pile way back when to make it sit where I wanted or replace what I broke.
I can't help but think that they are not only wrapping up badly, but wrapping up differently, because it clearly wanted to turn as the nose came up despite same sized tires and a solid link between the two spindles.
We'll get it, been through this truck so many times it isn't funny. First time I drove it I was 12 :) I am 45 now
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with much toe out it wanders like a snake
many frontends get more toe out when the
front rises and car want to follow the tire that
got the most traction for the moment
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Most of you probably saw this on the FE forum, but I am pretty happy with it so resharing :)
Rebuilt the mirrors, takes a steady hand to take apart a mirror, with heat, to replace all the hardware with stainless. They came out nice though.
Back out to the shop to assemble the driver's side. Coming together pretty nice I think!
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/My427stang/PassJun2_zps76966b98.jpg)
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After that is some minor interior work, get it on a front end machine and get some miles on it! The 445 sounds REAL good, I am itching to take it on a nice long run
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That thing is beautiful.
Well done.
Love the color, really love the engine.
How about a few more pics to really give us a tour.
Back a couple posts you were talking about your rear springs and some wrap.
I just put a new set of Deavers on my truck and am amazed at the difference.
No wrap and the handling is improved by leaps and bounds.
Here's the page of my thread on another forum so you can see them.
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1071818-i-went-and-did-it-25.html
Again, awesome truck you have, congratulations.
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Beautiful job, Ross. I need a truck like that LOL!
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That really looks good, Ross. The '67-'72s were the best trucks EVER produced. Maybe not for creature comforts, but for what trucks are actually made for.
The wrap up is so common on the 4wd. A long torque bar tied to the frame does wonders, is easy to make and would cost less than a new spring package.
I'm so jealous. My search for a good cab goes on......and on.......and on.....
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Well, I was bored yesterday and came up with a few videos to update the F100 and decided to revive this post from the dead 8)
First video is the 8.5:1 396 FE with an SM, 750, no head work, headers, 270H and 3 inch duals, Flowmasters, and no crossover for reference. Ironically it sounds to be the meanest of the bunch, but was a pussy cat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOJu-q8YvQM
Second video is the first one I made of the 445, 10:1 compression, ported D2s, ported RPM, 282/236 112/104 .580 lift Bullet SFT, 3310, mandrel bent 3 inch, X pipe, and Jones straight through mufflers (like a Magnaflow)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgnbTb09UQk
Third video is how it is now. No changes to above, but recently rocked the cam back a bit and lashed it much tighter, really liked it. Just idling here, but gets a good look at the truck. Sorry, time for a new cell phone, it just doesn't film very well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf3D5c9ZZfs
Decided to put it away for a bit and play with the Mustang, but next step for the truck is likely some suspension work, going to either 4 link it out back or adapt a more modern spring setup the allow a bit of squat. Right now the only flex with the HD Special springs comes from the sidewalls :)
At some point I'd like to swap to a transmission that I can shift quickly, right now its a NP435, but we'll see, no idea yet on that one.
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Love the truck Ross! Reminds me of one I should've checked further into about 26 hours away from home in Idaho Falls. We went out to get my Dads Mach 1 and sitting in the back yard of an abandoned house next to the hotel was a rust free 69 4x4 short bed 4 speed that hadn't been moved in a long time. They are certainly one of the best looking trucks out there to fix up just as yours.
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Right on! One of my favorite threads woke up again. 8) I wish my sheet metal was half as straight as yours, Ross.
Did you get a noticeable seat-o-the pants feel from advancing the cam?
Edit: Forgot to mention... I took out 3 leaves from both rear spring packs the last time I raced. It squatted, hooked and left harder than ever before. But with ladder bars though. I like the 4-link idea unless there's some hauling/towing to be done.
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Damn that truck is purty.
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Thanks guys!
Kevin, At the same time I did the changes, I also got the front end steering well and the seat redone, so I am driving it a bit harder than I did before too.
So, I am not sure I noticed a measurable difference with a 2 degree retard and the tighter lash, but it does pull very hard well past 5500 and I sure didn't lose anything down low. I am not sure I drove it that hard last round. In hindsight, I likely could have gone a little more cam and still been very happy, but it is already faster than an old 4x4 with 4 wheel drums should be :)
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Great looking truck Ross 8). I had a short '72 4x4 360 4 speed, one of those vehicles we can all number that we shouldn't have let go. I agree with Doug on the '67 to 72's, now that I'm back in the market it's a lot tougher to find the right candidate.