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Title: Camless Valvetrain - Decuir Technologies
Post by: chris401 on November 05, 2017, 10:36:15 AM
I spoke with this man several years ago. The plan was to send him a running MEL to build the camless valvetrain for. My projects fell dead shortly after but he is still building.


https://youtu.be/GXIdOTkJhEY
Title: Re: Camless Valvetrain - Decuir Technologies
Post by: ACHiPo on November 05, 2017, 07:30:16 PM
I'm intrigued, but I don't understand what drives the rockers.  As the comments say, the Italians (Ducati) have been using push-rod-less motors for a while.

Here's what I found on the Ducati system, but Decuir seems different?
http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/desmodromic.html
Title: Re: Camless Valvetrain - Decuir Technologies
Post by: BattlestarGalactic on November 06, 2017, 03:21:33 PM
Everything has grooves to attach each piece together.  Lifter is attached to cam, pushrod must be attached to lifter and rocker, then rocker is attached to valve.  I can see no need for springs as it pulls the valve closed. 

I'm curious as to how you lash it?  I see the chain link portion holding the valve to the rocker tip.  You can't have it totally tight as something has to give as engine expanse and contracts.
Title: Re: Camless Valvetrain - Decuir Technologies
Post by: Lenz on November 06, 2017, 03:53:31 PM
#8 sounds a little noisy.
Title: Re: Camless Valvetrain - Decuir Technologies
Post by: chris401 on November 06, 2017, 03:59:48 PM
I'm intrigued, but I don't understand what drives the rockers.  As the comments say, the Italians (Ducati) have been using push-rod-less motors for a while.

Here's what I found on the Ducati system, but Decuir seems different?
http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/desmodromic.html
The Ducati is an overhead cam design. Seems superior to any OHC I have ever seen. I asked about the lash and valve damper but I cannot remember his response. It is probably on his website. I will take a look latter.
Title: Re: Camless Valvetrain - Decuir Technologies
Post by: Heo on November 06, 2017, 04:05:50 PM
http://www.italian.sakura.ne.jp/bad_toys/engine/engine05.html