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Title: FE engine build books ?
Post by: 427HISS on July 14, 2017, 06:25:26 PM
Barry has two and doesn't Blair or someone else also have a book ?
If you bought one, which would you choose ?
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: andyf on July 14, 2017, 06:38:31 PM
Buy them all, books are cheap compared to what an engine will cost you.
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: Drew Pojedinec on July 14, 2017, 07:41:01 PM
For stock engine info:  Steve Christ book
For basic performance info:  Barry R's book
For intake/header/etc dyno info: Jay Brown's book
For historical info: Charlie Morris's books (there are a few)
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: 427HISS on July 15, 2017, 04:10:09 PM
Thanks guy's.
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Post by: stubbie on July 15, 2017, 07:27:42 PM
I can second Steve Christ's book. I have it and it's a good read for the novice like me.
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: FERoadster on July 15, 2017, 08:19:39 PM
Personally the Christ book is OK but I've found errors time after time. I like it for a basis of what to look for,
Just yeaterday I wanted to find the various FE & FT crankshaft casting #. It did verify what I wanted. Also wanted the C7TE and 3U codes  as well as std. measurements.
I use it as a very basic reference. For more exact FE info I've got both Barry's and Jay's book.
Richard
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: 67gt350 on July 20, 2017, 01:05:33 PM
I was very happy with Barry's book and would recommend it. He shows most all of the available aftermarket parts for the FE and details them nicely. Most of us don't have a stash of original parts so a good look at the aftermarket parts was a real plus. Also a lot of no nonsense straight forward engine building information. Great book at the top of my favorites pile!!
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Post by: preaction on July 20, 2017, 04:18:26 PM
The pic of Barry  on the back is kinda small though  ::)
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: andyf on July 20, 2017, 08:28:09 PM
The book I got from Barry had a centerfold in it with Barry laying naked on a bear skin rug. I thought they all came that way, maybe I got a special deal?
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: George vega on July 21, 2017, 08:05:57 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: Barry_R on July 21, 2017, 08:12:35 AM
The book I got from Barry had a centerfold in it with Barry laying naked on a bear skin rug. I thought they all came that way, maybe I got a special deal?

Somebody get the man some eye bleach now!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: Lenz on July 21, 2017, 09:42:15 AM
The book I got from Barry had a centerfold in it with Barry laying naked on a bear skin rug. I thought they all came that way, maybe I got a special deal?

Somebody get the man some eye bleach now!!!

 ;D
Too late, some things you just can't un-see  ;D.  I used Barry's book for my build and found it served me well.  If you don't put FE's together every day it's especially helpful in areas where particular attention needs to be paid due to the nature of the engine.  Sure am glad I didn't get the centerfold tho----
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: cjshaker on July 21, 2017, 01:16:14 PM
The book I got from Barry had a centerfold in it with Barry laying naked on a bear skin rug. I thought they all came that way, maybe I got a special deal?

LMAO!!

I'm guessing he's already been blinded. No amount of laser surgery will correct this ;D
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: FERoadster on July 21, 2017, 08:07:18 PM
This was my centerfold in the Barry Book I bought, 
FERoadster
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: 427HISS on July 23, 2017, 06:09:21 PM
The book I got from Barry had a centerfold in it with Barry laying naked on a bear skin rug. I thought they all came that way, maybe I got a special deal?

BE AFFRAID, ....VERY AFFRAID ! eek !    :o

What's the differences between Barrys two books ?

Does one have more infomation on building the side oiler ?
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: Barry_R on July 23, 2017, 10:00:06 PM
What's the differences between Barrys two books ?

Does one have more infomation on building the side oiler ?

One has not been published yet...

If I am able to finish it up (close) the second book will be more basic rebuilding oriented, covering the process step by step instead of the performance parts and combination structure of the first book.  Essentially I follow a near stock 428CJ rebuild from disassembly to completion in increments with a lot of photos.
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: 427HISS on July 24, 2017, 09:50:22 AM
Wonderful, please let us know when it's out.
Will you have it on your website or Amazon etc ?
I'll order the first one today.

Thanks Barry,
Kevin
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: FERoadster on July 24, 2017, 09:59:21 AM
My ststement was about the 2nd picture not a 2nd book, I corrected the post.
Richard
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: 427HISS on August 21, 2017, 05:44:26 PM
The Great FE Intake Comparo by Jay Brown

Any lower cost than $38 (+) shipping ?
Any used or sell me your copy ?

Yes, I'm a cheap ass.
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: Drew Pojedinec on August 21, 2017, 08:34:32 PM
Jay bought a dyno
Jay bought 150 freaking intakes
Jay bought probably 70 intake gaskets
Jay built 4 different engines to test all those intakes on
Jay published the book himself, so he could sell you a $38 book that probably took 5 years of his spare time and this book literally GIVES away every secret, every tidbit of information he learned swapping 150 intakes (plus a bunch of headers and exhaust manifolds, carb spacers, etc) onto 4 different engines and dyno testing each one so someone could come onto the forum that he himself funds and whines about the cost of the book.

have a nice day.
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: chris401 on August 21, 2017, 11:07:25 PM
The book I got from Barry had a centerfold in it with Barry laying naked on a bear skin rug. I thought they all came that way, maybe I got a special deal?
Canceled my order.
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: jayb on August 22, 2017, 07:27:29 AM
Jay bought a dyno
Jay bought 150 freaking intakes
Jay bought probably 70 intake gaskets
Jay built 4 different engines to test all those intakes on
Jay published the book himself, so he could sell you a $38 book that probably took 5 years of his spare time and this book literally GIVES away every secret, every tidbit of information he learned swapping 150 intakes (plus a bunch of headers and exhaust manifolds, carb spacers, etc) onto 4 different engines and dyno testing each one so someone could come onto the forum that he himself funds and whines about the cost of the book.

have a nice day.

LOL!  Well, I only bought about 25 intakes (the rest I already owned, or borrowed for testing), but I'll bet I bought well over 100 sets of intake gaskets, and lets not forget a few hundred gallons of fuel and countless tubes of RTV  ;D

More to the point, the reason the book is $38 is that it is 288 pages.  Most automotive high performance books run about 150 pages, and cost $20.  So, in this case you get what you pay for.
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: mn67 on August 22, 2017, 08:25:01 AM
The book is well worth the $38. Maybe the free FEPOWER sticker was what drew me in.  I should have bought it before my build.
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Post by: rcodecj on August 22, 2017, 10:15:14 AM
I bought both Jay's and Barry's books.
The books and their contributions to FE's are appreciated.   8)
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: 427HISS on August 22, 2017, 12:44:05 PM
Chris, you're just mean.     :'( 

With my bad health, medical bills over 268,000, loosing 10k to my engine builder 9 years ago, but trying to gain my spirit back by finding away to build another engine for my 427 Cobra, please understand my position of being careful on how I spend money. I won't be building this time, leaving it up to a pro engine builder (at least a short block) So I don't need a book, but want Jays and Barry's anyway, so be a good boy.    :P
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Jay, can I buy through you on this link ?

http://fepower.net/GFEIC.html
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: 427HISS on August 22, 2017, 12:46:15 PM
The book is well worth the $38. Maybe the free FEPOWER sticker was what drew me in.  I should have bought it before my build.

Well, I'd better get a sticker, or the buy is off !   ;)
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: chris401 on August 22, 2017, 12:50:26 PM
Steve Christ book is good to have if you do all your own work. It has been said Steve Christ identification chart was all the information Ford had to offer at the time. The incomplete and wrong information on casting numbers has no bearing on the detailed technical data.

Jay's book is a lot more than flow data. Page 230 + has interesting data on oil pressure and temperature locations and changes. Engine dyno and in vehicle set up complement each other.
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: chris401 on August 22, 2017, 01:01:22 PM
Chris, you're just mean.     :'( 

With my bad health, medical bills over 268,000, loosing 10k to my engine builder 9 years ago, but trying to gain my spirit back by finding away to build another engine for my 427 Cobra, please understand my position of being careful on how I spend money. I won't be building this time, leaving it up to a pro engine builder (at least a short block) So I don't need a book, but want Jays and Barry's anyway, so be a good boy.    :P
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Jay, can I buy through you on this link ?

http://fepower.net/GFEIC.html
??ME?? You mean Drew?
If I am mean for not wanting another George Costanza image scaring my eyes, then YES I must be the meanest, most ruthless man alive.
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: 427HISS on August 22, 2017, 01:11:22 PM
Sorry buddy, brain fart.
Yes, Chris !     (sorry,....had to) lol

And what's wrong with George, he's a great nerd. So yes, you are mean too !
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: preaction on August 22, 2017, 01:45:34 PM
Barry are you allowed to state how many of the first edition was sold, Im curious of the size of the market.
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: jayb on August 22, 2017, 08:29:22 PM

Jay, can I buy through you on this link ?

http://fepower.net/GFEIC.html

Yes you can, and I'll throw in the sticker - Jay
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: 427HISS on August 22, 2017, 09:08:52 PM
Great, my wife said she'll buy it for me on Friday, since you'll throw in the sticker. lol
(She said to make sure)  lol
Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: 427HISS on August 26, 2017, 07:03:18 PM
Just ordered Jay, cant wait to read it.
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Post by: Barry_R on August 27, 2017, 08:17:23 AM
Not sure - - probably need to read the extra fine print....
I'll take a risk...since I imagine the data is buried in the publishing world's archives anyways..

More than I expected.  Well over 10,000 copies.
Have not hit 20,000 copies so Stephen King can rest easy.

Title: Re: FE engine build books ?
Post by: preaction on August 27, 2017, 07:29:36 PM
That's great Barry I would say that adds up to very successful for anything FE. 8)