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Title: Valve covers for T&D and booster.
Post by: Landlubberatsea on February 18, 2016, 02:00:34 PM
Hi

Anyone who knows if these covers will both accomodate T&D rockers (street version) and clear the brake booster on a 445 in a -68 Torino GT?

http://www.carlsfordparts.com/parts_images/specials/428_CJ_finned%20Valve%20Covers.JPG

If they clear the booster but not the rockers, would it then be possible to make them do it by either modifying the baffles or use a thicker gasket/spacer (and still clear the booster)?

Grateful for any input, thanks /Jan
Title: Re: Valve covers for T&D and booster.
Post by: jholmes217 on February 18, 2016, 02:19:16 PM
They look like 69-70 428 Cobra Jet valve covers.  They fit on my 69 Mustang with power brakes with the POPs rocker system and end stands, but I had to take the baffles out of the valve covers.  Some have "persuaded" the baffles to work with a hammer, or made new baffles.  I chose to run a twist in breather on one side, and a twist in PCV breather on the other.  Both breathers have baffles in them, so I don't need the baffles in the valve covers.
Title: Re: Valve covers for T&D and booster.
Post by: cjshaker on February 18, 2016, 06:41:53 PM
They will clear the booster fine because they are a re-pop of the original CJ valve covers. They have a cut back area on one end that coincides with the boosters. And they do clear most all of the aftermarket rockers and end stands, but I don't know specifically about the T&D Street because I've never used them. I have run both POPs and Oregon Cams systems with Harland Sharp rockers under those covers without issues, other than the above mentioned baffles.
Title: Re: Valve covers for T&D and booster.
Post by: jgkurz on February 18, 2016, 07:05:49 PM
I'll be using the CJ valve covers with T&D rockers soon. I just need the rockers to deliver so I can mock them up. I intend to run some sort of baffling in the valve covers. I may need to fab my own baffles but I expect them to fit otherwise.
Title: Re: Valve covers for T&D and booster.
Post by: Dumpling on February 18, 2016, 09:22:34 PM
They look like 69-70 428 Cobra Jet valve covers.  They fit on my 69 Mustang with power brakes with the POPs rocker system and end stands, but I had to take the baffles out of the valve covers.  Some have "persuaded" the baffles to work with a hammer, or made new baffles.  I chose to run a twist in breather on one side, and a twist in PCV breather on the other.  Both breathers have baffles in them, so I don't need the baffles in the valve covers.

I have PCV' s in both valve covers, with a breather on the front of the intake.  Is this a bad thing?
Title: Re: Valve covers for T&D and booster.
Post by: jholmes217 on February 19, 2016, 10:49:07 AM
Another thing you can do if you prefer to leave the baffles in the valve covers is install valve cover spacers.  Dennis at DSC Motorsports has them for $135.  Here's a link:  http://www.dscmotorsport.com/asp/Products/popup_PartDetails.asp?PartID=1140
Title: Re: Valve covers for T&D and booster.
Post by: Landlubberatsea on February 19, 2016, 11:02:38 AM
Thanks for all the replies and input, much appreciated! Hope someone is willing to help me with a few more questions  ;)

So the 428 CJ covers will clear the booster but a bit uncertainty about the rockers. Could the pentroof covers then be an alternative or are they to tall for the booster?
 
http://www.dscmotorsport.com/asp/Products/popup_PartDetails.asp?PartID=743

I have thought of spacers as well and maybe the half height is the best solution. It's just that they are kind of pricey for me right now. I wonder if a thicker gasket does the trick for rocker clearance under the CJ's, and which gaskets are then the best?

Also, I remember reading that the PCV valves are of different size and that it is important to not get a too small one. How do I now which PCV valve that is the correct for my engine, does the increase in cubes (390/445) affect that?

Once again, many thanks for the replies so far/Jan

Title: Re: Valve covers for T&D and booster.
Post by: jholmes217 on February 19, 2016, 11:53:38 AM
Give Dennis at DSC a call.  Those pent roof valve covers can be ordered with a brake booster modification where they grind down the corner so it will clear the booster.  I believe it is a $15 charge, but I may be wrong.  Best to call Dennis and ask him.  My 428 Cobra Jet is bored .060, so I believe that equals like 439 cubic inches.  It seems to run fine with a parts house PCV listed for the 428 Cobra Jet.  http://www.autozone.com/external-engine/pcv-valve/az-filters-pcv-valve/ford/mustang/1969/8-cylinders-q-7-0l-4bl-ohv-cj-hp/918519_0_0/?checkfit=true
Title: Re: Valve covers for T&D and booster.
Post by: Landlubberatsea on February 19, 2016, 01:02:14 PM
Well Jeff, that sure sounds interesting, I'll give him a call. Many thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Valve covers for T&D and booster.
Post by: jholmes217 on February 22, 2016, 07:28:17 AM
Your welcome!  Let us know what he says.
Title: Re: Valve covers for T&D and booster.
Post by: Landlubberatsea on February 29, 2016, 04:17:55 PM
Called Dennis but unfortunatelly he couldn't help with covers. I ordered a set of half height spacers though so I will work something out one way or another.
Well at least I learned that next time I check clearances before I remove the engine and send it away...... :P :)