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Title: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: turbohunter on January 08, 2016, 12:13:33 PM
Got my set of rockers in yesterday. Since we really haven't seen much of them I thought I'd give you a close up look.
They're blue because it was a set that was left over from their stock from producing for the other company (which I forget who) and they gave me a good deal on them. I'm diggin' the blue anyway because after all it is a Ford.
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Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: fekbmax on January 08, 2016, 12:38:29 PM
Standard oiling or push rod oiling. ?
Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: turbohunter on January 08, 2016, 01:26:14 PM
Push rod.
Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: fekbmax on January 08, 2016, 03:02:36 PM
Dang..
Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: cjshaker on January 08, 2016, 04:07:32 PM
Those look real nice, Marc. The only thing I would have like to have seen would be a "hat" or clamping deal for under the shaft bolts, similar to what is on the hold-down bolts. Still, it looks like a very nice middle of the road set-up, in between the T&D Race and something like the Oregon system I have. Good score getting a deal on them!
Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: turbohunter on January 08, 2016, 04:16:16 PM
Edit: thought you were talking about the hold down bolts to the head, not to the stand.
I figure since they are in a saddle and its a solid shaft, they figured they didn't need 'em.
Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: turbohunter on January 08, 2016, 04:33:52 PM
Good score getting a deal on them!
Gotta thank my brother for that. Turns out he and Randy have known each other for quite awhile.
I did talk to Steve on the phone about getting an extra set of pedestals to play with modifying them for more hold down power.
But I'm gonna run these as is for a while and see what happens first.
Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: ScotiaFE on January 08, 2016, 05:23:18 PM
Any chance you are going to pull it apart so you and well
the rest of us can see inside.
Look pretty nice.
Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: turbohunter on January 08, 2016, 05:32:11 PM
Yeah, it'll be coming apart.
I'll try to remember to shoot some pics.
Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: Nightmist66 on January 08, 2016, 08:58:32 PM
Sweet setup Marc. I like the blue also. Because Ford, and my favorite color is blue.  ;)

I don't think there will be much to see once it's apart being a solid shaft and all, but wouldn't mind seeing your pics.

Here is a photo of the rocker by itself I took at PRI. The typical bronze bushing. It has a full groove in the center of the bushing and an oil hole in the rear of that groove leading to the adjuster. I didn't see a second oil hole in the front going to the roller tip, so I figure they must have an oil groove cut into the rocker body and oil passes under the bushing to the roller tip.
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Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: turbohunter on January 08, 2016, 09:32:22 PM
I didn't see a second oil hole in the front going to the roller tip, so I figure they must have an oil groove cut into the rocker body and oil passes under the bushing to the roller tip.

Check one of my pictures. There is a hole leading to the roller at the tip.
Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: Nightmist66 on January 08, 2016, 09:44:12 PM
I didn't see a second oil hole in the front going to the roller tip, so I figure they must have an oil groove cut into the rocker body and oil passes under the bushing to the roller tip.

Check one of my pictures. There is a hole leading to the roller at the tip.

Sorry for any confusion Marc. I prolly coulda worded it better. I did see the external oil hole.( looking at outside of rocker body) in person and your photo/ I did not see a second hole in the bronze bushing that leads to the roller tip, only the rear facing one going to the adjuster. That is why I assume there is a groove under the bushing that leads to that oil hole at the roller tip.
Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: turbohunter on January 08, 2016, 09:48:32 PM
Ah ok.
Be fun to take one apart.
Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: ScotiaFE on January 08, 2016, 09:58:37 PM
So the oil comes up the push rod and then the adjuster is banjoed and then the feed to the rocker bearing
then out to the tip?
Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: turbohunter on January 08, 2016, 10:10:21 PM
That's what I'm figuring Howie.
I'll email Randy and get the real skinny.
Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: Nightmist66 on January 08, 2016, 10:12:49 PM
So the oil comes up the push rod and then the adjuster is banjoed and then the feed to the rocker bearing
then out to the tip?

Yes, like a T&D race rocker.
Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: turbohunter on January 11, 2016, 01:08:36 PM
Here's the email Randy just sent me back.

Marc,
The oil comes up thru the pushrod and into the rocker via a small oil hole
drilled in the adjuster.  We then have a groove in the rocker the oil can
travel around allowing some to flow out to the roller tip and the rest is
used to lubricate the shaft.  Most important is the pushrod length so that
the oil hole in the adjuster lines up with the oil hole in the rocker to
allow for the oil to flow.  Hope this helps.  Let me know if you have any
other questions.  Thanks.

Randy Becker Jr.



So I'll take them apart to see all that as soon as I get a chance.
Title: Re: A look at the "new" Harland Sharps
Post by: Qikbbstang on January 11, 2016, 03:06:03 PM
I just grabbed an "old" gold Harland Sharp and was surprised to find no oiling "jets" at all to the roller end. There is one jet to the pushrod side of the rocker.
    I looked at a Dove roller and it had oiling to both the push-rod and roller side....

 Are Harland Sharp "old gold" rockers only one-side oiling, on the pushrod side?